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tblue37

(65,322 posts)
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 07:53 PM Jan 2022

Maxine McNair, who died today, was the final survivor of the parents of the

four Black girls who were murdered in the Birmingham church bombing.



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Picture: Denise McNair, who was killed at age eleven in 1963 Birmingham church bombing, and her Mother, Maxine, a schoolteacher, who died today, the final survivor of the parents of the four Black girls who were murdered
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Maxine McNair, who died today, was the final survivor of the parents of the (Original Post) tblue37 Jan 2022 OP
May she rest in peace. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2022 #1
She is with Denise now. sheshe2 Jan 2022 #2
I don't have adequate words. MLAA Jan 2022 #3
any reference to those little girls Skittles Jan 2022 #9
I get the lump in the throat. tblue37 Jan 2022 #11
And it happened in my lifetime. COL Mustard Jan 2022 #12
it was in my lifetime, I was a kid Skittles Jan 2022 #13
The JFK assassination I remember very clearly. COL Mustard Jan 2022 #14
I was in elementary school and my reading group was allowed to go to the school library unaccompanied Rhiannon12866 Jan 2022 #33
I was born just a tad over nine months The Unmitigated Gall Jan 2022 #39
I was 3 and don't remember it. Now every time I see or read about it it hits hard. MLAA Jan 2022 #16
I was overseas with no TV, but I remember John Glenn orbiting the earth LeftInTX Jan 2022 #35
What made 63 big for you, Col Mustard? MLAA Jan 2022 #17
Lots of things COL Mustard Jan 2022 #24
Whoa, that was quite a year! MLAA Jan 2022 #25
Mine and hubby's birthyear nt Whatthe_Firetruck Jan 2022 #27
Youngsters! COL Mustard Jan 2022 #30
Tell that to... Whatthe_Firetruck Jan 2022 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author LeftInTX Jan 2022 #36
Same here. smirkymonkey Jan 2022 #19
More: tblue37 Jan 2022 #4
May she rest in peace. ancianita Jan 2022 #5
But half of America does not want to teach this history. The Jungle 1 Jan 2022 #6
+1. nt tblue37 Jan 2022 #8
I was a little girl in 1954 and that bombing of those kids malaise Jan 2022 #7
RIP Ohio Joe Jan 2022 #10
I was Denise's age in 1963 and remember this shooting. badhair77 Jan 2022 #15
That was the year I came to this country. pennylane100 Jan 2022 #40
This event was not a horrible thing in 1963. badhair77 Jan 2022 #45
K&R Solly Mack Jan 2022 #18
Rest in Peace, Maxine. I was in high school when the bombing took place. I thought surely this LoisB Jan 2022 #20
This. tblue37 Jan 2022 #23
Excellent point...... MyOwnPeace Jan 2022 #26
Indeed. We must. LoisB Jan 2022 #34
I think it did, they passed the Civil Rights Act in 1964 LeftInTX Jan 2022 #37
Cross gently, Mrs McNair, to where all broken hearts are healed Hekate Jan 2022 #21
May She Rest in Peace and Her Memory Be a Blessing. iluvtennis Jan 2022 #22
I was a college student . . . . AverageOldGuy Jan 2022 #28
Blessed Be Her Memory Eternal. sprinkleeninow Jan 2022 #29
This, then JFK. Can remember both as a10 year old. czarjak Jan 2022 #31
Her name was Denise, born in 1951; I'm Denise, 1951 born, too duhneece Jan 2022 #38
If there IS a G-d, 70sEraVet Jan 2022 #41
I was eleven at the time and remember it like yesterday. In our church, we... FailureToCommunicate Jan 2022 #42
righteous- all the way through Piasladic Jan 2022 #43
may her soul llashram Jan 2022 #44
Thank you for letting us know. RIP Demovictory9 Jan 2022 #46

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
9. any reference to those little girls
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 08:44 PM
Jan 2022

I always get tears in my eyes - it's just unimaginable how people can be so cruel

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
12. And it happened in my lifetime.
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 08:49 PM
Jan 2022

I don't remember it, but it did. 1963 was a very big year for me (not when I was born....)

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
13. it was in my lifetime, I was a kid
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 08:52 PM
Jan 2022

but I would have been overseas at the time, and have no firsthand memories of this or of the JFK assassination

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
14. The JFK assassination I remember very clearly.
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 08:57 PM
Jan 2022

We got a day off from kindergarten. I tried to ask what a President was, but the grownups were too upset to give me an answer. I also took my first airplane ride that year, and went "water skiing" in my grandparents' bathtub. I was lucky I only ended up with a goose egg on my noggin.

Good times, except when they weren't.

Rhiannon12866

(205,195 posts)
33. I was in elementary school and my reading group was allowed to go to the school library unaccompanied
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 11:50 PM
Jan 2022

The gym teacher ("Coach" ) had a free period so he turned on his radio and heard that the president had been shot. So he raced to the nearest classroom and told the 6th grade teacher who ran to the nearby library and told the librarian. That's how we heard and raced back to our classroom at the far end of the school and alerted our teacher - who then ran out to learn what had happened - and they sent us all home. I remember that everyone was in a panic, so we kids were as well as we sat in the school gym waiting for the school buses to arrive. And when I got home, my mother had already been told by a neighbor, so she was really upset as well, everyone was.

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,803 posts)
39. I was born just a tad over nine months
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 11:33 AM
Jan 2022

After that god-awful day. My parents apparently dealt with the stress in time-honored fashion.

LeftInTX

(25,253 posts)
35. I was overseas with no TV, but I remember John Glenn orbiting the earth
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 03:17 AM
Jan 2022

It was early in the morning in Tokyo and my mom told me that John Glenn was circling the earth in a spaceship.
I ran outside to look. Unbeknownst to me, he had probably landed about 5 hours earlier. I was in kindergarten.

I don't remember the church bombing, I was living the US at the time. I don't think our parents would have wanted us to know. Kennedy was a BIG deal. It was all day news type of thing way before there was all day news.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
24. Lots of things
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 09:38 PM
Jan 2022

Last edited Sun Jan 2, 2022, 10:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Moving
Taking my first airplane ride
Kindergarten
Baby sister
JFK assassination
Water skiing in the bathtub
Getting bitten by a dog/riding in an ambulance

I'm sure there were others but those were the highlights!

Response to Whatthe_Firetruck (Reply #32)

tblue37

(65,322 posts)
4. More:
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 08:15 PM
Jan 2022


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Maxine McNair passed away today at the age of 93.

Her daughter Denise was one of the 4 little girls killed in the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963.

*Something else we weren’t taught in public school.


Rest In Peace, Maxine…
Khary Penebaker
@kharyp
55 years ago today, four beautiful little girls,
Carol Denise McNair, 11
Addie Mae Collins, 14
Carole Robertson, 14
Cynthia Wesley, 14
were killed in the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing.

Rest in Power young Queens

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
40. That was the year I came to this country.
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 01:12 PM
Jan 2022

I had met my future husband in England but our wedding was postponed because he was called back to the US. So I flew out there and we got married in San Antonio.

LoisB

(7,201 posts)
20. Rest in Peace, Maxine. I was in high school when the bombing took place. I thought surely this
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 09:19 PM
Jan 2022

will turn things around. This will shock America into doing something about civil rights. Boy, was I wrong. As wrong as I was about Sandy Hook.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
26. Excellent point......
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 09:51 PM
Jan 2022

Just when you think "THIS is the point.........."

We CAN NOT sit back and expect things to fix themselves.

We must act.
We must move.
We must make things happen.

We are Democrats - that's what we are about.

LeftInTX

(25,253 posts)
37. I think it did, they passed the Civil Rights Act in 1964
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 03:33 AM
Jan 2022

However, laws don't change racist attitudes.

AverageOldGuy

(1,523 posts)
28. I was a college student . . . .
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 10:33 PM
Jan 2022

. . . in a small Alabama college at the time. Sep 15, 1963. 16th Street Baptist Church bombing, Birmingham, AL.

The four little girls who were murdered -- all wearing their Sunday best -- were: Addie Mae Collins, Cynthia Wesley, Carole Robertson, and Carol Denise McNair. Former US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was friends with Denise McNair; Rice was 8 years old at the time, she was at her own church a few blocks away where the blast was felt.
https://www.al.com/spotnews/2013/09/condoleezza_rice_remembers_the.html

Four Klansmen -- all known to the FBI -- planted the bomb.
--- In 1977 one of them was found guilty, sentenced to life in prison, died there.
--- One died in 1994.
--- It was not until 2001 and 2002 that an Alabama prosecutor charged the surviving two Klansmen, putting both of them in jail for life where they died.

The Alabama prosecutor was Doug Jones, later to be the only Democrat elected to the Senate from Alabama in decades. He lost after one term to former Auburn football coach Tommy Tuberville, who is a candidate for the Dumbest US Senator ever.

duhneece

(4,112 posts)
38. Her name was Denise, born in 1951; I'm Denise, 1951 born, too
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 10:34 AM
Jan 2022

This grabbed me, made me aware in a personal, scary, rage-simmering way it hadn’t before. I’m white, in El Paso Texas at that time but had just moved there from northern Maine.
I’m so grateful that my mother wept, my father as an officer in the Air Force had been denied a drink in a bar in southern New Mexico because he looked too Indian in 1953 understood racism and bigotry. He got it.
I don’t remember her mother (I think I was too focused on the similarities of Denise McNair and myself to think about her mom. What a beautiful, elegant woman. Now I weep for her.

70sEraVet

(3,493 posts)
41. If there IS a G-d,
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 01:21 PM
Jan 2022

there must must be a HELLACIOUS punishment for someone who murders children in a church!

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
42. I was eleven at the time and remember it like yesterday. In our church, we...
Mon Jan 3, 2022, 03:15 PM
Jan 2022

all sat in silence for four minutes for each child killed.

Those sixteen minutes seemed an eternity.

May you rest in peace, reunited with your daughter, Maxine McNair

Here is Richard Farina's song about that terrible day:

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