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myohmy2

(3,162 posts)
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 09:10 PM Jan 2022

vaccine believer...

...what the hell is the BIG deal about getting vaccinated?

...we've been getting treated and punctured all of our lives on the recommendations of the medical community...you couldn't have been in or near a hospital or room without welcoming needles...and

...did we hesitate when they said our leg was broken and needed to be set?...were they lying when they said we had a bad gallbladder?...were they joking when they confronted us with a found cancer or hernia that needed an operation?

...why all of a sudden lengthy in depth research is now required to believe the medical community?

...should we now be doing lengthy research on anything and everything that nears, enters or impacts our body?...how about a potato?...a stick of gum?...an aspirin?...a yummy cookie?...or how about a bar of soap or that roll of toilet paper?

...be careful, better research it, analyze it, check it out...

...you never know...

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Bev54

(10,048 posts)
1. MRNA vaccines have been researched since the early 1990's
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 09:24 PM
Jan 2022

All they had to do was tweak it for covid 19 and do some trials. That is what people do not understand. This vaccine did not materialize overnight.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
6. But were they ever tested on humans before 2020?
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 10:10 PM
Jan 2022

Some of my unvaccinated family members, who are smarter and more scientifically literate than your average anti-vaxxer, are concerned about mRNA because they said that while it's a promising technology, before 2020, it was considered too risky even to use for dying cancer patients as compassionate use/right to try. Since I had never heard of mRNA before the vaccines came out, I don't know if they are right or not. Does anyone know if mRNA was ever used in humans for anything before 2020? I know it's been researched for a long time, but are the COVID vaccines the first actual application?

Bev54

(10,048 posts)
7. Yes they were in phase 1, 2 & 3 trials when covid 19 hit. It was covid 3 that led
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 10:19 PM
Jan 2022

them to start their trials. They just have never been used at this level before, billions of vaccines have been given with excellent results and little side affects, I don't know how much more people need to prove they work and are safe.

Here is some good information on the history:

https://www.oligotherapeutics.org/facts-about-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-and-the-decades-of-research-that-went-into-creating-them/

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
2. It's been politicized.
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 09:25 PM
Jan 2022

Apparently you can't be a good Republican unless you try to kill yourself with a dangerous, contagious disease. When you think the world can't get any weirder, it does.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
3. Best Twitter exchange I've seen
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 09:29 PM
Jan 2022

— I won’t take the vax, don’t know what’s in it and not willing to chance it.
— Dude, you smoke meth, get over it.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
5. "...what the hell is the BIG deal about getting vaccinated?"
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 09:30 PM
Jan 2022

Doncha know it's the vaccinated who are super spreaders??

That's what my idiot neighbour tells me.

captain queeg

(10,184 posts)
8. There are lots of people who "do their own research"
Sun Jan 2, 2022, 10:41 PM
Jan 2022

Basically going on the internet and reinforcing their existing ideas and fears. To some degree that mindset can be self correcting, as in they die. Unfortunately in this case they spread it to others. It’s not just Covid. I had a friend who recently died from prostate cancer. He’d obviously had it for many years and if he’d of gotten treatment early on he’d still be around. He denied it for many years and after he was finally diagnosed he constantly second guessed the doctors. In one of his earlier treatments he’d gotten very good results and was in remission. Then he decided he didn’t want to keep taking the drugs, I don’t even remember exactly why. But he stopped, the cancer came back full force, and then wouldn’t respond to treatments any more. There was once or twice he admitted how bad he’d fucked up, but I guess it was too awful to admit and take responsibility for killing himself. He was also a militant anti vaxxer and CT believer. People like that seem to be unable to admit how wrong they are.

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