Thwaites Glacier.

[Javaman]

and it's ice shelf.

the Glacier, itself, is roughly the size of Florida.

the ice shelf, which sits floating in front of it, acts as a dam of sorts. its presence keeps the glacier from flowing into the ocean.

this is very important.

because without that ice shelf (which is already in the ocean and really doesn't effect the ocean level) the Glacier would, in quick fashion, slide into the ocean.

the glacier is not in the ocean yet.

the ice shelf is breaking up slowly and it's predicted by climatologists to be gone within 5 to 10 years. some scientists say as little as 3 years.

when the shelf is gone and when that glacier slides into the ocean, the ocean level, at least here surrounding the U.S. will rise and rise dramatically. Like 2 feet dramatically, (some estimates are up to 5 to 7 feet) permanently: no receding, no drying up.

we are facing a very real global crisis and most of the earth's population has no clue about it.

why do I bring this up, besides the obvious? because all our coastal cities that are below, at or a little bit above sea level will be hit with a massive disaster that will not go away.

we have already witnesses mass migrations due to natural disasters. those were just the warm up

currently, our nation is under all sorts of societal, political and economic pressures (to be polite), but now imagine, a disaster movie scale event unfold in a very short period of time.

we always see the hero or the family or the underdog make it out at the end of the disaster movie to a ruined landscape, but the music swells and we think "everything will okay" (big thumbs up), but we never ever are witness to the aftermath. Oh sure there are post apocalyptical movies that show after society has fallen into the toilet but rarely the messy transition. and when we do, we are usually treated to riots and hair on fire people running around screaming until the first gun shot is fired.

what we don't' see is huge movements of people out of the disaster location trying to resettle into an area already hard pressed for resources or the societal or racial violence or the mini-pseudo-posse-militia-cops for hire groups or the fights and killings on a large scale for food and water.

these will happen.

call me a doomer and gloomer, I don't care. we have made climate change a reality. and the reality is down right fucking terrifying.

we are a foolish bunch. And sadly that will probably be our epitaph.


Antarctica's 'Doomsday Glacier' could meet its doom within 3 years

https://www.livescience.com/agu-antarctica-thwaites-glacier-future

[Piasladic]

1. depressing

I always wonder if I am doing enough, even if it's too late. I don't eat meat, try to limit consumption of other animal products, had no kids, and don't eat out. I do drive a lot...but don't fly.

Because I'm morbid, I think about the worst ways to die, and being unable to breathe is high up there. Drowning, plastic bag, or just not enough oxygen in the air. I think my nutty neighbors will get me first, and I'm not sure If I should take comfort in just getting shot.

I live in Florida, so this is going to affect me. I teach students at the local college and try to do my best by them. I live on a smalll hill and because so much of Florida is flat, you must understand my idea of a hill is about five feet up. When the waters rise, even if my home is safe, there will be no roads, and my school will be sunk.

[Martin Eden]

2. Don't Look Up

and don't look down at the ice shelf and glacier at the bottom of our planet

Greed, ignorance, and political corruption will all of human civilization a Darwin Award eventually.

[Celerity]

3. kick for visibility

[NickB79]

4. Yes, there is no way left to stabilize the glacial plug now

Remember kids, we're at 420 ppm of CO2, up from 275 ppm in the 1700's.

The last time we were at 420 ppm? The middle Pliocene, 3 million years ago.

Alligators prowled lakes in Minnesota, and rhinos roamed Germany. There were shrubs and small trees growing on Antarctica's shores. All the continents were in their current positions, so no blaming continental drift either.

Sea levels, you ask? They were 75 FEET higher than today.

Don't buy coastal property. Hell, as I've told my daughter: don't move away from the Great Lakes. We're going to be an Eden in 20 years, compared to a lot of places further south.

[Piasladic]

5. No kidding

If the 2022 elections go the way I think, I'm going to pack it up, and hope I can find some way to earn a living well north of here.

[roamer65]

8. We are going to have to somehow control the influx into the Great Lakes region.

Hard border? Wall?

Partly joking, partly serious.

[BSdetect]

6. Cities which get flooded will have to be decontaminated - remove all toxins

as far as possible

Fuel tanks, domestic sprays and chemicals, an endless amount of stuff that will pollute the oceans.

Is anyone getting ready for this?

It's going to be horrendous.

[Piasladic]

7. "will have to be decontaminated..."

I'm not sure we will have enough government control to do this when it happens. My husband optimistically predicts there will be enough gradual destruction, but I am not as sanguine.

No one in my local government, as far as I can tell, is preparing. I think I should be packing now. I think it will al just go into the ocean, and people will be just trying to survive.

[LT Barclay]

20. We don't even completely decontaminate after hurricanes.

Maybe in neighborhoods where things are more visible. But remote areas, no.
Been there, seen it.

[world wide wally]

9. Our most dangerous enemy is ignorance.

Whether it be on environmental matters, political matters, or social matters. Race, religion, political leanings, health, or economic matters.
We are fucked.
Thanks, Donnie

[BlueJac]

15. And inaction, and willingness to except the facts.

[James48]

10. Stay clear of all of Florida, and New Orleans.

Both will be in a world of hurt when it happens.

[getagrip_already]

13. and demanding federal dollars to save them.......

All while blaming dems and big gubberment.

[Javaman]

19. and the texas gulf coast where all the oil refineries are located.

it won't be pretty.

[Fla Dem]

11. 9 cities that could be underwater by 2030

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Not sure if the Thwaites Glacier was taken into consideration when this report was posted.

Amsterdam, the Netherlands. There's a reason they're called the Low Countries.
Basra, Iraq
New Orleans, USA
Venice, Italy
Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Kolkata, India
Bangkok, Thailand
Georgetown, Guyana
Savannah, USA

https://www.timeout.com/things-to-do/cities-that-could-be-underwater-by-2030

I live on the FL east coast and I'm amazed at the new homes being built right on the coastline. I'm surprised the counties are still approving coastal home building and insurance companies are still insuring the homes.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

18. I'm surprised Miami isn't on that list.

[bronxiteforever]

14. K&R.Climate change impacted the Late Bronze Age Collapse

& the Greek Dark Ages. Palatial centers were destroyed and/or abandoned. Sharp increases in Northern Hemisphere temperatures preceded the collapse of Palatial centers.

Some populations took to the sea and raiding as a result of the loss of agricultural land.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0305440312000416

Imagine the impact of climate change on nuclear powers and armed populations. The climate change the Bronze Age civilizations faced was a day at the park compared to what we are facing.
We must mitigate as much as possible now but faced with a powerful political party that mocks science, precious time is lost.

[LT Barclay]

16. And isn't it sad that even here a post like this gets

Less attention than a cute puppy picture.
I even tried adding a puppy picture to my posts about the vaquita, didn’t help.

[AllaN01Bear]

17. parts of india and bangladesh are already experianceing this . some islands are already gone.