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On Sunday, January 3, the heads of a half-dozen elite government special operations teams met in Quantico, Virginia, to go over potential threats, contingencies, and plans for the upcoming Joint Session of Congress. The meeting, and the subsequent deployment of these shadowy commandos on January 6, has never before been revealed.
--snip to the end of the article--
The presence of these extraordinary forces under the control of the Attorney Generaland mostly operating under contingency plans that Congress and the U.S. Capitol Police were not privy toadded an additional layer of highly armed responders. The role that the military played in this highly classified operation is still unknown, though FBI sources tell Newsweek that military operators seconded to the FBI, and those on alert as part of the National Mission Force, were present in the metropolitan area. The lingering question is: What was it that the Justice Department saw that provoked it to see January 6 as an extraordinary event, something that the other agencies evidently missed.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/exclusive-secret-commandos-with-shoot-to-kill-authority-were-at-the-capitol/ar-AASnoz4?ocid=msedgntp
So yeah.. What made Barr have these people there is a good question. Another good question is why were they not deployed to help?
The information keeps dripping out and not one bit of it has looked even remotely good for that fuckin guy.
Edit - As everyone is correcting me... Barr was gone (but still a shitbag) so the questions remain, just substitute Rosen.
leftieNanner
(14,998 posts)That means Rosen was the acting AG. Right?
Damn! But some people need to be held accountable for this crap.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,789 posts)hlthe2b
(101,730 posts)TheRealNorth
(9,435 posts)Rosen was acting AG.
Grasswire2
(13,564 posts)Haven't read the article yet, admittedly.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)onecaliberal
(32,489 posts)brush
(53,475 posts)knew something big was coming and had these people in place to take over for the admin/DOJ if the coup was successful.
calimary
(80,699 posts)before risking being caught in the proverbial crossfire?
Im already pre-disposed to expecting the worst.
gab13by13
(20,867 posts)were these "commandos" FBI? Was Director Wray involved?
Speaking of Christopher Wray, does anyone else here have questions about him? What has he been doing lately?
56miSSie
(48 posts)Jeffrey Rosen took over on 12-24-2020.
Scrivener7
(50,774 posts)Was the invasion of the Capital by people threatening to murder our legislators not "high-risk" enough for them?
Nevilledog
(50,687 posts)*snip*
On the morning of January 6, most of these forces staged closer to downtown Washington, particularly after intelligence was received indicating a possible threat to FBI headquarters building or the FBI's Washington Field Office. FBI tactical teams arrived on Capitol Hill early in the day to assist in the collection of evidence at sitesincluding the Republican and Democrat party national headquarterswhere explosive devices were found. FBI SWAT teams and snipers were deployed to secure nearby congressional office buildings. Other FBI agents provided selective security around the U.S. Capitol and protection to congressional members and staff.
A tactical team of the Hostage Rescue Team was one of the first external federal agencies to actually enter the Capitol after protestors breached the building. In addition to augmentation of emergency security assets, one team coordinated with the U.S. Capitol Police and Secret Service to provide additional safeguarding of Vice President Pence, who had been moved to the underground parking structure beneath the Capitol, from where he was supposed to evacuate. But Pence refused to leave the building and stayed underground instead.
*snip*
Scrivener7
(50,774 posts)All of these assets were "pre-deployed" and ready to go over the weekend of January 2-3, staging out of the FBI Academy complex in Quantico, 30 miles south of the Capitol building. If a WMD or terrorist attack occurred, the units were to move via helicopter to the site of the incident. The activation of the catastrophic response units, operating under plans already approved by President Trump, entailed an automatic green light allowing federal responders to take the initiative and spare no resources, including shoot-to-kill authority, to deal with this most extraordinary condition.
It was a terrorist attack, but the plan "already approved by President Trump" (God help us!) did not, apparently, get most of the units moved "via helicopter to the site of the incident." There were no federal responders in evidence taking any initiatives and sparing no resources dealing with that crowd.
The paragraphs you have cited seem to describe a small number of people being deployed directly at the Capital.
Nevilledog
(50,687 posts)Certainly haven't seen any identifiable presence as support for the Capitol & DC police outside or inside the Capitol.
Scrivener7
(50,774 posts)we don't see that.
Ohio Joe
(21,656 posts)Seems that one team went in but not to help the capitol police... And Pence did not want to go with them. The whole thing just raises a lot of questions.
Marthe48
(16,692 posts)Dressed in dark clothing snake through the mob, up steps and then divide on a covered portico, part to go to the left and part to go right. The crowd parted to let them go through and didn't attack them.
I saw this on an early video recap of the attack, but haven't heard an explanation.
The people in black looked organized and competent.
Nevilledog
(50,687 posts)Marthe48
(16,692 posts)thanks!
Runningdawg
(4,496 posts)going through desks and filing cabinets, stuffing electronics and files into duffle bags. That was live streamed by someone on Reddit. I have yet to hear of a single electronic device reported missing or a device or classified files having been found on any of the few so far arrested. TPTB are too embarrassed to mention it.
Gore1FL
(21,034 posts)I suspect there were more, but I don't recall any reporting past the Speaker's device I mentioned.
Marthe48
(16,692 posts)keeping the specifics of theft under wraps till the perps get ready go to trial. I think the guy that stole Speaker Pelosi's laptop got caught.
Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)is not clear on whose side they would be on.
Scrivener7
(50,774 posts)Ohio Joe
(21,656 posts)A bit strange that.
reACTIONary
(5,749 posts)... because he knew that would be a sign of weakness. He was resolved to start the vote certification again after the capital was cleared, and adamant about not leaving.
musette_sf
(10,184 posts)For all practical purposes, any cop in the country has "shoot to kill authority" if they catch a black man doing anything at all, legal or otherwise.
The only stipulation is that the cop in question has to make sure that their body cam "is malfunctioning" and then poof! Authority granted!
llashram
(6,265 posts)that type of authority...1619-present. Even Rittenhouse a 17-year-old can kill indiscriminately and be a hero...of the RW and sad to say 'others' elsewhere in that crowd that want to overthrow democracy. I just know we must be on the right side this Civil War II.
As long as you murder people on the "approved for murder" list, you're in the clear.
slightlv
(2,637 posts)The activation of the catastrophic response units, operating under plans already approved by President Trump, entailed an automatic green light allowing federal responders to take the initiative and spare no resources, including shoot-to-kill authority, to deal with this most extraordinary condition.
Refers to when Trump was absolutely sure BLM was going to attack the White House/Congress/etc. He didn't want a repeat of him being seen going to the "safe room." And I seem to remember him (or someone) putting out the word that BLM and ANTIFA would be mixed in with the "Patriots" at the Capitol Bldg. (?)
Joinfortmill
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Budi
(15,325 posts)We had all the warnings we needed once, MSM & social media silenced such talk, they drove the name & reputation of the one who warned, into the dirt, for speaking at all.
The next president was aready chosen by forces greater in power & darkness than the American people.
No one wants to act on the warnings. And they're perfectly fine with not.
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Budi
(15,325 posts)What emerged was a slow dragging down of our laws, Constitution, a mockery of our Democratic process.
It was entirely designed as such.
Without HRC we saw a merging of every fringe extreme grouping of wannabe actors playing role they knew nothing about.
Media gave them presence & a welcome mat as tho they had a clue what they were talking about, if not for the puppeteers writing their memorized scripts & posing a perfected & practiced camera shot.
With their roots in Russia, they all came at this country with a promise & a plea of 'send money'.
As it's turned out years later, the Left & the Right Tea Party are actually the ones who were "Both The Same".
"Burn it all down" they both demanded.
And they have run oppo parallel to each other for the sole intent of destroying our US Govt from within.
Yes, they BOTH are rooted in the will of Russia to accomplish this goal.
Hillary Clinton was really the last defense we had against this slow dragging down & peeling the skin off our sacred American history.
They were always, "Both The Same".
Need receipts? I have them.
Thank you
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(6,011 posts)Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #55)
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bluedigger
(17,077 posts)Their solutions to problems generally result in violent actions. There would have been a lot more casualties if they took the field.
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)and then they get to use the Insurrection Act and demand that congressional business is stopped etc etc etc
Artistree22
(40 posts)I think that they were expecting a larger counter protest group to be there. I think a lot of those who brought make shift weapons were going to use them on the counter protesters but when they weren't there, used them against the front line officers instead. It seem like a lot of the grunts seemed genuinely surprised that they got inside. (They were really full of themselves inside-based on the videos)
But some had a mission........
love n peace
FailureToCommunicate
(13,989 posts)authority if the Capitol storming mob were BLM and/of antifa protesters?
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Artistree22
(40 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(13,989 posts)I missed seeing the deleted response. But i'm alright with that.
Rebl2
(13,311 posts)possibly knew what was going to happen but didnt agree with what was being planned? Maybe why he quit before Christmas 2020?
Ford_Prefect
(7,828 posts)The more I know the creepier it gets and the layers of Trump corruption implied keep growing deeper. Not Barr (he'd left by then). Not Rosen(he wasn't inside the magic circle). Not Wray (I hope not). Maybe Clark or more likely one of those at DOJ or elsewhere who put his name in play. It seems to me others yet un-named did know and did act to move the coup forwards and this plan was set in motion as part of the drill.
I am moved to ask the question others have suggested already as to just how many levels of Trumpian corruption are installed at DOJ, FBI and other agencies including DOD? I also wonder how many of those are yet waiting for the next phase of the coup, either to enact it or protect it?
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gab13by13
(20,867 posts)that will be 3 weeks since the select committee sent Meadow's criminal referral over to Garland, that's how long Garland took to indict Bannon. Just licking my chops to hear about the Meadow's indictment this Wednesday.
Oh and Bannon must not have learned his lesson, it seems he is on his pod cast every day working hard to remove honest election officials and replace them with Magats. Bannon is working hard on the next coup seeing as his trial isn't until the end of July, plus appeals and sentencing if he loses, maybe he can stretch it out until Trump wins again and he can get a 2nd pardon?
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SCantiGOP
(13,856 posts)That way the attention of the news media would have been on that, and not on the actions of Trump's militia.
And, that could have been what Trump wanted in order to declare a State of Insurrection, and God knows what would have transpired after that.
Thank goodness our side was smart enough to stay away that day.
fwvinson
(488 posts)and made sure we were no where near this
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Artistree22
(40 posts)..... that the ones inside were not rounded up and arrested when back -up finally came. They just cleared everyone out. They just cleared them our????
They couldn't risk exposing the ones that were there on a mission.
Love n peace
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Hekate
(90,202 posts)
they would have shot us. They planned for our side to be there.
Remember the young hotheads here who kept chomping at the bit to go to DC and show them? Remember all of us old people, veterans of many a protest in our lives, who said this was NOT the place any person with sense would be?
Da-yum. Trump and the MAGAs had broadcast their intentions for anyone with an internet connection to see.
Thank God Dems/progressives/lefties/antifa decided to stay away on that day.
reACTIONary
(5,749 posts)... that this activation was a reasonable and prudent step to take in the case of the most extreme contingencies were to materialize.
What is wrong with having a hostage rescue team at the ready? And why would it be deployed if there weren't any hostages to rescue?
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reACTIONary
(5,749 posts)... and the teams that were assembled were there for the purpose of using extreme tactics in extreme circumstances, such as Pence or Pelosi being held hostage.
Rosen wasn't a bad guy. He defied and faced down tfg and lead a group of DOJ officials who all threatened to resign if tfg ousted him.
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Stinky The Clown
(67,697 posts)SO SO SO glad our side never showed up to give these criminals the opportunity.
Kid Berwyn
(14,651 posts)Acting AG Rosen didnt have time to call in scabs.
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Artistree22
(40 posts)Do you guys remember watching different footage of the attack and seeing blurred out faces? I haven't understood why some faces were blurred when they were trying to identify people.
I still don't understand why there weren't mass arrests of anyone who was still inside when back up finally arrived.
The media never seemed to ask those questions either.
I feel someone was being given cover. I feel that either those blurred faces were maybe some undercover officers or more likely some of evil erik prince's mercenaries. I just feel that little erik had a hand in this somehow. Just a thought.
love n peace
former9thward
(31,805 posts)That is generally why they are held to a higher standard. No one is given "shoot to wound" authority.
Xoan
(25,294 posts)lol