I guess I am just done with reading tea leaves and listening to the punditry

[boston bean]

read them as well.

Burned way too many times. I’ll believe something serious is going to happen to these traitors when something serious happens to these traitors. By that I mean put on trial.

Cynical yes. But in my mind and with past experience, it is just less draining.

[oldtime dfl_er]

1. I hear ya

I continue to want to believe. I do believe Merrick Garland is a good man. I am cynical and tired.

[NewHendoLib]

2. It's why we stopped watching them 17 years ago.

We just listened to Post Reports, their daily podcast. Made our heads explode. We are in a time I can't make sense of.

[Celerity]

27. It is a time of socioeconomic and sociopolitical liminality. It is by definition hard

to grasp and hold onto a unifying theory to chart your journey by.

[SoCalDavidS]

3. Exactly Where You're At

I've grown tired of watching the prognosticators on MSNBC & CNN. Feel like they always speculate about all the things that are going to happen, and then only 10% of them do.

[smirkymonkey]

4. I'm with you.

What do I think? Nothing will happen to these bastards and we are going to lose our democracy. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[Nevilledog]

10. I sadly agree.

[Scrivener7]

5. Yep. Me too.

[Poiuyt]

6. Yeah, I tend to be jaded too

Once in a while, a major player goes down. But I'm not expecting any this time.

[secondwind]

7. I am more hopeful today than I was last week.

Garland is going to do the right thing. You will see.

[Skittles]

8. yup

I truly do not get how anyone who cannot understand our frustration after Fitmas, Mueller, the impeachments, and the fact that to this day Donald Fucking Trump has never been held accountable for anything.

[uponit7771]

16. Well wait a second, he did have to pay 2 million for running a fake charity involving US Troops ...

... and his office and didn't have to go to jail.

Just damn, he LITERALLY said he fired Comey cause he was investigating him a clear OOJ charge and no one has arrested his ass yet on that.

[monkeyman1]

20. 25 million -look it up ! used as personal piggy bank !

too money from kid's -not troop's - that was donating presidential pay checks to veteran's!

[uponit7771]

23. yep, forgot about the pay check donation. Just damn ... he's a slimy bastard

[monkeyman1]

25. blimp.org motto ! his leg's about to get kicked out from under him !!

[AngryOldDem]

34. That's just it.

I’m damn sick and tired of that fucker getting away with everything. Zero accountability. No wonder he thinks he can do whatever he wants.

Just when does the bill come due?? Man inflicts a possibly fatal blow to this country with no consequences. Fuck that. He’s free to raise even more hell in 2024.

I’ll believe in an indictment, arrest, trial, and conviction only when I see it.

[Skittles]

46. omg

Dubya and his band of sociopaths literally started a war based on lies, and were never held accountable. Repukes have become more and more emboldened with their fascism because, literally, WHO IS GOING TO STOP THEM

[Sneederbunk]

9. The proof is in the pudding, but there must be a pudding.

[Ferrets are Cool]

11. I'm with ya on this

I will believe it when I see it. Until then, I am an utter cynic.

[Caliman73]

12. That is probably an approach that should have been taken from the beginning.

The job of pundits is to get your eyes on the screen or to pick up that paper, or click that headline. While there are people we tend to trust more than others, at the end of the day, they are just giving their opinion, based on some experience, or some tidbit they may have gotten from an "insider" closer to the action.

One of the major problems with ALL media today, is that the purpose is engagement, not necessarily information. When we had the 3 legacy broadcasters, local reporting, and the papers, we received information on their schedule. Sure there was the "Extra" or "Breaking News", and sure there was a motivation to sell copy, and advertisement, but you basically got your news from places with a large "newsroom" where research was done and bad stories hurt the reputation.

These days "hard news" has given way to speculation. You have one or two big stories, then you have endless analysis and opinion on them. "So and so said...."

I try to take what the pundits say with a grain of salt and look for trends or hard news the actually means something apart from speculation.

[iemanja]

13. I'm with you. Nt

[Wounded Bear]

14. A healthy cynicism is justified...

[uponit7771]

15. K&R, Same here BB. I an vasalting between believe MG and thinking "I've had this feeling before" and

... factually affirming why I've had this feeling.

I WANT MG to put a fair and just foot up Putin's Whore's ass but after Mueller OOJ outline not being followed up on what can I think now?

I do think Garland will do something but timing here's is of essence

[Bettie]

17. Yep, prepare for the worst

hope for the best.

It isn't doom and gloom, it is self-care, because having hope crushed over and over is painful.

[Brainfodder]

18. Being super obviously corrupt makes for me at least, no need to watch, they are guilty AF.

I don't need anyone to pile on, it's red handed in our face, show a jury, sentence the evil assholes, done.

As long as Waddle Dump dies in prison for his dereliction of duty, the rest I'd just take 100% of their money/property as payment for crimes, and then exile them all to a 3rd world country with flip flops, Bermuda shorts, and a tank top while blind folded in a major city there at noon with enough to buy one meal at the place we leave them.

[dchill]

19. Very soon it will be too late...

...for it to take "as long as it takes."

[Evolve Dammit]

21. I hear ya. Been burned too many times over the decades. Faith is a dwindling commodity. n/t

[Orrex]

22. I've seen very little to justify faith in The Process

And a great deal to shatter such faith.

Despite the claims of the DOJ-faithful, we have no evidence that any action against any of the main players is forthcoming. Yes, The Process is secretive by nature, but I'll err on the site of cynicism and be therefore correct more often than not.

And if I'm wrong? Great! I will dance in the streets to celebrate my error!

[AngryOldDem]

37. I feel like I'm constantly being told the check's in the mail.

As I said elsewhere, time is running out to hold people responsible for this, and I’m getting tired of being told to be patient because things are happening behind the scenes. Meanwhile, it seems everyone involved in this — Bannon, Flynn, Trump, et. al. — is giving us all the middle finger.

I hope I’m wrong, and that by the end of the year we’ll at least see some kind of criminal referral of some of these major players, including those in Congress who aided and abetted. If that happens, I’ll gladly admit my mistake, too. But I think that’s asking way too much.

[Orrex]

41. You have articulated my view more or less perfectly

If, after all of this "trust us, it's working" silence and apparent inactivity, it turns out that none of the key players is held accountable, that failure by Garland et al will be far more destructive to the republic than 10,000 Trump-fluffing kkkultists storming the capitol.

[BigmanPigman]

24. You're being a realist.

Through experience I fall into this group too. It is healthy for me on a mental level. My hopes won't be dashed when nothing happens. If they do nail TFM (The Fucking Moron) and his pals I will be happily surprised.

[uponit7771]

26. +1, its rational and sound to look at past behaviors in a context to calculate probabilities

[sarge43]

28. Realistic in a cynical enviroment n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. The thing is... How will we feel when the biggest political

crime of the century goes unpunished?

Last week a House Committee concluded that trump intentionally stalled and impeded covid relief. People literally died!!! Not a peep (that I heard) from our side. And the story died in an hour.

[BigmanPigman]

36. Isn't Brazil going after their dear leader

for a Covid response similar to tRump's? I have been calling my reps about this issue for a year.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

29. Totally true! But hard to do, to not hope along the way. How

Do you turn that part of your brain off?

[AngryOldDem]

30. I'm losing hope.

Time is running out. If people — some of whom literally brag about what they did — are not held to account and soon, we are most likely done as a republic in 2024.

It just seems like nothing is being done.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. We were pondering today about how there isn't even a 1/2 sane

GOPer talking about running in 2024, is there?. At least that could be our fall back to save the Republic if worse comes to worse.

[AngryOldDem]

38. Nope. They've all been driven out.

[DENVERPOPS]

40. You can bet your sweet bippy

that if Trump isn't around, there will overnight be hundreds of Repubs announcing their campaigns that very day.
DeSantis probably already has his campaign organized and lawn signs printed, ready to be distributed across the nation.

The day Trump croaks from fat filled arteries and get's "planted".... millions of Dems are going to travel to his grave.
Someone speculated that there won't be a single blade of grass around his grave, that they will need to install a football field sized concrete apron around his grave, complete with drains..........

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. Ya don't think of Desantis as 1/2 sane. Hey maybe

there aren't any.

[DENVERPOPS]

43. I consider them all

INSANE...........no 1/2 about it.............

[Laura PourMeADrink]

44. Not good.. we could be stuck with one of them

[monkeyman1]

31. different end of the spectrum !

all of the blimp's money trap's are losing money like a dam break in the rain'y season ! to putin , he is now a liability ! nobody in there right mind is going near him ! his rug rat's have no market skills at all ! Rico charges will lock all assets up !! loans coming due ! he's fubar'd !!

[Kaleva]

33. I don't get too worked up over things I have no control over.

What will happen will happen.

Climate change is going to punch most everyone in the face here soon enough and each of us does have some control on how we, as individuals, can adapt to it. Because focusing on how world leaders try or not try to mitigate it, something beyond our control, is no a profitable expenditure of time.

[relayerbob]

39. So, stop.

As John Dean said, it 938 days from Watergate until Nixon left. And that was a normal set of people on the GOP side. The investigation is proceeding apace, and your ( and others) impatience will not speed things up, only drive you crazy. If you think they are going to leak out info, remember these are Trump’s bottom of the class, bottom of the barrel morons. They know better than to show their hands until it is rock solid checkmate.

[Meowmee]

45. Yep

When they are in jail, ruined and or dead then I will believe it.