Is it possible that Trump, in encouraging the storming of the Capitol, created the very situation

[Rustynaerduwell]

that stopped the real planned coup in its tracks? Peter Navarro seemed truly exasperated when he was on The Beat the other day that the coup was going swimmingly on Jan 6th. All the players -"100 Congressmen and Senators"- were doing their part, but "what we needed was peace and calm on Capitol Hill". Did the violence of the insurrection itself prevent the coup? Had the Capitol not been breached that day, would the coup have went ahead as planned?

[gab13by13]

1. No.

[JustAnotherGen]

2. Nope

[uponit7771]

3. No, the biggest attack goal was to pressure Pence after it looked like he wouldn't fold

[malaise]

4. No n/t

[Walleye]

5. They were delusional to think they could overturn an election

[Mad_Machine76]

8. Yeah

There was nothing in the law about being able to do this but, like your "Uncle Frank", Trump and some of his people feverishly thought that this was something that Pence could just do and then whipped up the mob, presumably to pressure Pence and Congress to still do it even though they couldn't.

[Walleye]

10. The votes were certified. Nothing in the law about "decertifying". It's not a thing

[Wounded Bear]

6. No, they never had enough votes to actually overturn anything...

they needed to disrupt Congressional action to implement the plan to have Pence throw it to the House on a one state, on vote election.

[FSogol]

7. Why would anyone believe anything Peter Navarro said?

[Drunken Irishman]

9. Absolutely not. There was no mechanism in place for that.

They could object to every single state's certification and they would still need a majority in both chambers to throw out those results.

Democrats held the House, so there was zero chance a majority in the House would have agreed to toss, say, Arizona's electors, and there were enough Republicans opposed to the idea from the start to prevent a majority in the senate to agree to toss electors.

But even if there was a majority in the senate, without the House, it's irrelevant, as you needed a majority of both chambers to toss the electors. Wasn't going to happen.

[Picaro]

11. Nope

Peter Navarro is an idiot. There was no way to reverse the election results. The insurrection might have worked if Pence had done what was demanded of him. But, in reality, if he had rejected the electoral vote most likely the results returned again would have been the same. Only one state, Wisconsin, tried to pull off not un-certifying the election after it had been certified and that failed at the state level.

My big concern right now is that partisan moles are being inserted into the election framework in a number of red states like Georgia. The next go around could be really messy.