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avebury

(10,952 posts)
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:06 AM Jan 2022

Oklahoma is crazy land

https://kfor.com/news/oklahoma-legislature/state-senator-files-bills-to-give-oklahoma-sheriffs-power-to-arrest-federal-officers-form-posses-against-federal-agents/

State Senator files bills to give Oklahoma sheriffs power to arrest federal officers, form posses against federal agents

An Oklahoma State Senator filed three bills designed to increase the power wielded by Oklahoma sheriffs, including a bill that empowers sheriffs to arrest federal officers who attempt to confiscate guns.

State Senator Nathan Dahm, R-Broken Arrow, filed the bills on Thursday.

“I’ve heard from numerous sheriffs and constituents across this state who are concerned at the consistent ignoring of our Constitution happening by this rogue regime” Dahm said. “The Second Amendment was never solely about hunting unless you’re referring to hunting tyrants. It was about the people being able to protect themselves against a government that would seek to disarm them.”

Senate Bill 1199 allows sheriffs to arrest federal officers who attempt to confiscate guns in Oklahoma.

Senate Bill 1200 requires federal agents and officers to receive permission from the county sheriff before operating in their county.

Senate Bill 1201 expands a sheriff’s ability to form a posse to include prohibiting agents, employees and officers of the federal government from violating the constitutional rights of the people of their county.
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avebury

(10,952 posts)
1. Continued
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:08 AM
Jan 2022

“The full totalitarian leftist takeover of a society has always been predicated on confiscation of firearms,” Dahm said. “Thankfully in Oklahoma we have county sheriffs that would never allow that to take place. But we must do everything possible to help them stand up for our rights and this bill further enables them to do that.”

Such legislation is written to play to far right Republicans, said Michael Crespin, a University of Oklahoma Professor of Political Science and Director and Curator of the Carl Albert Congressional Research and Studies Center.

“There can be a fine line between pandering and legitimate legislation. There is probably a subset of the population that would be happy if these bills were to pass and become law and view these bills as legitimate legislation,” Crespin said. “The Republican Party has a super majority in the legislature so there is some possibility that bills like this can gain traction. That being said, proposing legislation like this is clearly aimed at the far right of the Republican Party and earns a great deal of media attention and potentially fundraising activity.”

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
2. I have a good client in Broken Arrow.
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:31 AM
Jan 2022

He used to be a Republican. He is an Independent now who leans more Democrat.

CurtEastPoint

(18,636 posts)
3. Full-on crazy fundy RWnutjob Nathan. Seems nice. "Rogue regime' my ass, you KKKlown.
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:34 AM
Jan 2022

Homeschooled. Nathan spent his childhood years in Broken Arrow while his parents attended Bible school. In 1994, the Dahm family moved to the Eastern European nation of Romania as missionaries to the former communist nation. Upon graduating high school, Nathan returned to Romania to serve as a missionary.

During that time, he actively served in each department of his local church and designed the 65-acre Bible school campus being built a few miles outside Romania’s capital city, Bucharest, while serving as the general manager. In 2003, Nathan stayed on as general manager and added the position of Dean of Students for the Bible school’s charter class, serving as dean for four years until returning to Broken Arrow.

Emile

(22,629 posts)
4. Why would federal agents confiscate their guns? Did the gun owner
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:35 AM
Jan 2022

do something wrong? Egads we don't want a bunch of armed law breakers out there do we?

Girard442

(6,067 posts)
9. Yeah, does the prohibition against the Feds confiscating guns...
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 10:16 AM
Jan 2022

...extend to someone who is actually shooting people?

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
16. I believe they are talking about...
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 01:21 PM
Jan 2022

…a hypothetical situation where legislation is passed that demands owners of semiautomatic weapons sell them by a certain date or be arrested.

They are saying they won’t enforce it, as those are people’s property and the will keep it or sell it (at the price the seller decides not some lowball price set by the government) and they and their citizens will violently defend their expensive property from a taking.

A swat team can surround a house. A lot harder to surround an entire state.

Considering blue states ignore federal drug laws by legalizing weed in their states, they could just do the same thing and legalize those guns in their states in face of federal law and say they are following blue state example of picking and choosing which federal laws to ignore.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
19. I agree...
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 01:43 PM
Jan 2022

…but precedent has been set for states to ignore federal laws they don’t like. Too late on that.

Aviation Pro

(12,142 posts)
5. Yet another state with a small population, but with an outsized influence in politics
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:37 AM
Jan 2022

You suck at stating, OK, yeah, you totally suck.

Diamond_Dog

(31,956 posts)
6. Too bad OK can't use their laser focus and seemingly vast amounts of time
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:44 AM
Jan 2022

Actually enacting legislation that helps people … like health care assistance, better public schools, (I have read that their public schools are woefully underfunded), affordable housing, things like that. Sad.

lastlib

(23,200 posts)
7. No wonder--it's stuck between Kansas and Texas......
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:48 AM
Jan 2022



(I'd be crazy, too, if I was stuck there........)

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
8. Trying to make Constitutional sheriffs legal.
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 09:56 AM
Jan 2022

They’re trying to get a foothold in a lot of places.

Hugin

(33,112 posts)
13. 1200 is the most dangerous and unconstitutional.
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 11:46 AM
Jan 2022

Buford T Justice would like a very banana republic fiefdom. With himself in complete control, of course.


 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
15. I see more red states following this...
Fri Jan 7, 2022, 11:50 AM
Jan 2022

…at least the ones with legislation that says they will ignore a future ban.

Guess they want to test Beto’s “hell yea we’re gonna take your AR-15”.

They won’t have to as in order for that kind of ban and confiscate to happen, the filibuster and Supreme Court have to be addressed.

That isn’t looking likely.

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