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samplegirl

(11,475 posts)
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 09:47 AM Jan 2022

Trump should be very affraid:

This anniversary was not good news for him
Last year, Trump thought he could find a way to hang on. Now he's more worried about staying out of prison

By LUCIAN K. TRUSCOTT IV
PUBLISHED JANUARY 8, 2022 8:00AM (EST)
President Donald Trump speaks at the "Stop The Steal" Rally on January 06, 2021 in Washington, DC. | US Vice President Mike Pence presides over a joint session of Congress to count the electoral votes for President at the US Capitol in Washington, DC, January 6, 2021. (Photo illustration by Salon/Getty Images)
President Donald Trump speaks at the "Stop The Steal" Rally on January 06, 2021 in Washington, DC. | US Vice President Mike Pence presides over a joint session of Congress to count the electoral votes for President at the US Capitol in Washington, DC, January 6, 2021. (Photo illustration by Salon/Getty Images)
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Donald Trump must have awoken on the morning of Jan. 6 last year with a terrible sense of foreboding. It was the day his nemesis, Joe Biden, was scheduled to be certified as the winner of the presidential election. He had spent two whole months, November and December, trying to forestall what was going to happen that day. We now know from reporting on the period after the election that he didn't do anything except play golf and talk to his outside lawyers, like Rudy Giuliani, and outside advisers, like Steve Bannon, about possible ways the results of the election could be overturned.

He spoke with Bannon on Dec. 29 from Mar-a-Lago. Bannon told Trump he had to return from Florida and be present in Washington to prepare the ground for what they had planned for Jan. 6. This meant he would have to skip his big annual New Year's Eve celebration at his club in Palm Springs, no small matter in the world of Donald Trump, who loves to be surrounded with adoring fans who have paid big money to be in his presence. But Bannon pushed him and pushed him hard. He had to work on Mike Pence. He had to pay attention to the memos written by another of his outside lawyers, John Eastman, laying out in two scenarios how Pence — who would preside over the joint session of Congress on Jan. 6 — could refuse to certify the electoral votes from battleground states and throw the election into the House of Representatives, where, as one memo delightedly declares, in all caps, "TRUMP WINS."

https://www.salon.com/2022/01/08/donald-should-be-very-afraid-this-anniversary-was-not-good-news-for-him/

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Trump should be very affraid: (Original Post) samplegirl Jan 2022 OP
Indeed. Republicans had a very bad week. bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #1
And they tacitly approved of it by avoiding the ceremony that honored the Capitol Police. Gore1FL Jan 2022 #10
No matter how hard they try, Jan 6 just won't spin.... paleotn Jan 2022 #16
That's a good point +1 /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 2022 #18
Takeaway: TFG likely to be charged with a felony, Achilleaze Jan 2022 #2
Certainly hope so. samplegirl Jan 2022 #3
Good morning. JohnnyRingo Jan 2022 #5
Bob Mueller didn't charge "individual one" gab13by13 Jan 2022 #6
Funny how that works. We now have a King, apparently. Beyond the law. kairos12 Jan 2022 #33
so - US presidents are literally above the law? Skittles Jan 2022 #34
That was a good article. JohnnyRingo Jan 2022 #4
My favorite part of the article. Emile Jan 2022 #8
That was an exciting read all right. ShazzieB Jan 2022 #21
How do you corner someone in the oval office? PCIntern Jan 2022 #7
Post removed Post removed Jan 2022 #9
Huh? We watched them LIVE. I have no doubt the case has been made already. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #12
Oh, darn. Looks like I missed a troll. niyad Jan 2022 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2022 #14
Bannon needs to "accidentally" step in front of a bus or subway train A HERETIC I AM Jan 2022 #11
Karma has been disappointing me lately. badhair77 Jan 2022 #13
He needs to be cancelled Traildogbob Jan 2022 #15
Not until he's made to talk. paleotn Jan 2022 #19
How? former9thward Jan 2022 #25
Contempt of Congress, yes. paleotn Jan 2022 #29
He is not charged with that. former9thward Jan 2022 #31
Don't be a Debbie Downer. paleotn Jan 2022 #32
Interesting read.... paleotn Jan 2022 #17
When skimming through the op, I accidentally read "Bannon" as "Baboon." ShazzieB Jan 2022 #20
This quote at the end struck me. leftieNanner Jan 2022 #22
The Slobfather is going down malaise Jan 2022 #26
There you go again, malaise! leftieNanner Jan 2022 #28
Love your optimism. nt BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #30
Suppose TFG experiences fair Justice (my druthers) PufPuf23 Jan 2022 #23
Yes ❗❗❗ 👍 he should be afraid BLMLGBTQTRUMPSUX Jan 2022 #24

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
1. Indeed. Republicans had a very bad week.
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 09:56 AM
Jan 2022

They offered no comeback and had no excuses for Jan 6. Insurrection grabbed the headlines.

Gore1FL

(21,127 posts)
10. And they tacitly approved of it by avoiding the ceremony that honored the Capitol Police.
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 10:56 AM
Jan 2022

On 1-6-22, their many contradictory narratives of 1/6/21 came to a head and they showed their truest colors.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
16. No matter how hard they try, Jan 6 just won't spin....
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 12:18 PM
Jan 2022

Goebbels never tried to spin or downplay the beer hall putsch.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
2. Takeaway: TFG likely to be charged with a felony,
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 10:00 AM
Jan 2022

Republican traitors will pay a price for their vile inexcusable betrayal of America, American democracy, truth, decency, and honor.

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
5. Good morning.
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 10:12 AM
Jan 2022

I suggest you read the entire Salon article at the link, if you haven't already.
Better than pop tarts for breakfast.

On edit:
I just realized you were the OP.

gab13by13

(21,297 posts)
6. Bob Mueller didn't charge "individual one"
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 10:14 AM
Jan 2022

because he believed that a sitting president can't be indicted. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that Merrick Garland believes he cannot charge a former president.

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
4. That was a good article.
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 10:11 AM
Jan 2022

To all the casual scanners of posts, I suggest you read this one at the link.
It's short, but satisfying

Emile

(22,654 posts)
8. My favorite part of the article.
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 10:25 AM
Jan 2022

Liz Cheney appeared on CNN, telling Jake Tapper: "'The president of the United States is responsible for ensuring the laws are faithfully executed; he's responsible for the security of the branches. So for the president to, either through his action or inaction, for example, attempt to impede or obstruct the counting of electoral votes, which is an official function of Congress, the committee is looking at that, whether what he did constitutes that kind of a crime. But certainly it's dereliction of duty."

ShazzieB

(16,357 posts)
21. That was an exciting read all right.
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 12:52 PM
Jan 2022

Last edited Sat Jan 8, 2022, 01:56 PM - Edit history (1)

This part alone made my day:

Watching him on TV and reading my Bob Woodward tea leaves, it looked to me on Thursday that he has heard talk from friends and sources amounting to more than rumor — that Trump is going to end up charged with a felony, or multiple felonies. He made clear that he thinks the House Jan. 6 committee is being thorough, almost to a fault, in the way they're going about their investigation of the events before, during and after the day itself. Woodward is a Washington Whisperer par excellence. He's been at it for almost 50 years. He is one of the least excitable guys I've ever met. But on Thursday, as he was being interviewed by Lawrence O'Donnell, he looked like he was about to levitate out of his chair.


Reading this makes ME feel like I'm about to levitate out of my chair!

Response to samplegirl (Original post)

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
12. Huh? We watched them LIVE. I have no doubt the case has been made already.
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 11:46 AM
Jan 2022

The recent change in tone is because all the ducks are already in a neat and perfect row, #FailedCoupGuy knows this too, his goose is cooked, roasted, and burnt. As more and more of the staffers come forward and provide details to the investigations, a complete picture of culpability developed.

You are clearly wrong, and sound like an apologist for the conspirators. This isn't about the attack on congress only, never was, and now the entire conspiracy is becoming more clearly understood by everyone. This is a death sentence to Republican prospects. Once the prime time hearings begin, Republicans will need to hide like cockroaches.

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A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
11. Bannon needs to "accidentally" step in front of a bus or subway train
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 11:30 AM
Jan 2022

Come on, Karma…..do the entire world a favor

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
19. Not until he's made to talk.
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 12:38 PM
Jan 2022

And I don't mean torture. That's counter productive and illegal besides. Once all his congressional subpoena legal wranglings play out, he'll be made to talk. Guys like him usually want to talk, particularly once the jig is up.

After that, he could be coated with honey and dropped in a Brazilian ant nest for all I care.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
29. Contempt of Congress, yes.
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 08:38 PM
Jan 2022

Fomenting an insurrection....no, that's most definitely not a misdemeanor. He'll tell all he knows. Guys like him want to talk. They're proud of their crimes.

On edit. Here's something interesting along those lines.

https://www.mediamatters.org/steve-bannon/leading-january-6-steve-bannon-publicly-bragged-about-his-behind-scene-role-fomenting

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
17. Interesting read....
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 12:34 PM
Jan 2022

and take on Woodward. Of course the Jan 6 commission is extremely through and careful. It's not every day you recommend the felony indictment of a US president. Lets hope Woodward is right in thinking that's a done deal.

ShazzieB

(16,357 posts)
20. When skimming through the op, I accidentally read "Bannon" as "Baboon."
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 12:39 PM
Jan 2022

Then I realized how well it fit. Serendipity!

leftieNanner

(15,080 posts)
22. This quote at the end struck me.
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jan 2022

"When Bob Woodward says you're in trouble, you've really got something to worry about."

We can hope.

This article gave me a lift. Needed it.

Thanks for sharing samplegirl!

malaise

(268,903 posts)
26. The Slobfather is going down
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 08:25 PM
Jan 2022

Take that to the bank
He and several ReTHUG and fascist goons are guilty of several crimes

PufPuf23

(8,764 posts)
23. Suppose TFG experiences fair Justice (my druthers)
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 01:14 PM
Jan 2022

Should large financial TFG contributors that continued to fund TFG post the lost election when it was obvious a lie and scam on the nation?

Not just slubs like the pillow guy but what about Boeing and the like?

That may be a root cause and TFG a symptom. Rue the time when a subtle and more competent cretin tries to pull a trump.

24. Yes ❗❗❗ 👍 he should be afraid
Sat Jan 8, 2022, 07:26 PM
Jan 2022

What happened that day, that terrible winter day, should never have happened. Our elections are the cornerstone of our society and a real president would have told his people exactly that. If Trump was a real man he would have repeated the message that the election results were true and soothed his little baby followers. Lives could have been saved.

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