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HaHaHa We're All Going To Die - by Tom Tomorrow (Original Post) kpete Jan 2022 OP
K&R, I'm sick of the out of balance worry porn uponit7771 Jan 2022 #1
You aren't the only one dwayneb Jan 2022 #2
very well said dwayneb kpete Jan 2022 #4
We will never give up dwayneb Jan 2022 #7
You taught your children well dwayne, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #10
I, for one, won't give up... but I think I will go for my morning walk. XacerbatedDem Jan 2022 #12
I'm going to ride my bike, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #17
Most of us are aware of what could and might happen. Magoo48 Jan 2022 #9
I listened to Marc Elias a couple days ago, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #13
Thanks for your thoughts. Magoo48 Jan 2022 #22
Wow, "worry porn', kinda depressing. gab13by13 Jan 2022 #8
Glad you mentioned Chile, it's crossed my mind appalachiablue Jan 2022 #14
I worked in Santiago in 2002 and 2003, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #18
They had reason for the views of America, and cool appalachiablue Jan 2022 #24
Yes, sir. Not to mention the hate porn and lie porn and terrorism porn the platforms deliver to Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #6
Thanks. Me, too. relayerbob Jan 2022 #11
Tom Tomorrow ftw! KG Jan 2022 #3
Twitter is an brainsucking monster, not the kind that used to be only under the bed. Real. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #5
We control what we see on Twitter, or at least I do. Everyone can. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #19
Exactly what m saying, except for the parrot, actual books of parrot pictures are better though. Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #21
Twitter is an uplifting source of artistic inspiration and scientific news, just make it so. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #23
It's not one moronic fellow, it's an army of hate in that Twitter machine. And no way to get rid of Alexander Of Assyria Jan 2022 #27
If you abolish sound waves bcause of hate speech, you'll never hear the birds sing. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #28
Funny yet serious post, worryville & The Gates of Hell. Tx. appalachiablue Jan 2022 #15
I think television news and opinion is far more paralyzing than twitter. hunter Jan 2022 #16
Personally, I gave up reddit a month or so ago bhikkhu Jan 2022 #20
Some people seem addicted to Twitter. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #25
HAHAHA STOP IT TOM Skittles Jan 2022 #26

dwayneb

(767 posts)
2. You aren't the only one
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:12 AM
Jan 2022

Plenty of Americans will continue their Disneyland lives with their noses in their electronic toys, while the Radical Right works relentlessly to steal their freedoms.

We are all sick of conflict and worry, but the reality is that our freedoms are not free, and our democracy will not survive the apathy of its citizens. It requires our constant diligence - pick up any history book to understand that life lesson.

kpete

(71,978 posts)
4. very well said dwayneb
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:18 AM
Jan 2022

It is so draining and disappointing and yet we cannot give up
& those history books you speak of, could be banned soon

dwayneb

(767 posts)
7. We will never give up
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:33 AM
Jan 2022

Americans give up? If the neo-fascists think that will happen they will be very disappointed. There will be hell to pay if they try to put us under the boot, or at the end of a gun.

I'm an old codger now, rounding third and heading for home. I taught my kids from day one about the dangers of creeping fascism, long, long before CNN and Fox News were even a glint in the eye of some media mogul.

It is a great sadness to realize that my children and grandchildren may very well be living in an autocracy or modern police state and will have to learn to deal with repression and violence and the loss of their freedoms. But this is reality, we can't pretend otherwise. If it happens they will deal with it. And I know for sure they will NEVER give up. They are a lot tougher and smarter than that.

gab13by13

(21,280 posts)
10. You taught your children well dwayne,
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:50 AM
Jan 2022

I did the same with mine and I too am rounding 3rd, may be a couple steps ahead of you. I stood up to the powerful in my little town 46 years ago. The local mafiosa wanted to strip coal on our pristine watershed and I got the townspeople to take them on. It was real, it was scary, my friend got death threats, but the town was behind us and we prevailed.

Today apathy is our #1 enemy, if we just wait a little while longer everything will be OK. I won't back down either, I have been already banned from our local right wing web site, and been called a "commie pinko" by the editor of our local newspaper. The newspaper now rejects my letters to the editor.

Kris wrote it and Janis sang it, Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. That's what is coming.

gab13by13

(21,280 posts)
17. I'm going to ride my bike,
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 12:02 PM
Jan 2022

16 miles, indoors, it's 17 degrees out, outside cats are still in their heated cat houses.

Magoo48

(4,700 posts)
9. Most of us are aware of what could and might happen.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:39 AM
Jan 2022

What do you propose we do about it first?

When was the last time you worried and it helped?

gab13by13

(21,280 posts)
13. I listened to Marc Elias a couple days ago,
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:08 AM
Jan 2022

He has 37 law suits against the voter suppression. discrimination bills and laws that have been passed. He stated he cannot protect our next election by himself, he needs help from Congress. When asked if there is still time, he answered yes, but not very much time.

Is Marc Elias worried, you bet he is and he is doing everything he can to make the next election fair.

I am not Chuck Schumer, I posted 100 threads what I would have done were I Chuck Schumer.

Worry may be the wrong word to use, maybe just understanding the situation we are in right now is a better description.

GOTV is important but we need to do more to make the next election fair.

gab13by13

(21,280 posts)
8. Wow, "worry porn', kinda depressing.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:37 AM
Jan 2022

The "worry porn" has spread to Canada, Canada sees what is happening and it is discussing what to do if a horde of Americans suddenly wants to live in Canada.

A GQP controlled Congress along with Trump or a Trump clone as dictator will not be a pretty coup. This won't be about cutting taxes for the rich and cutting benefits for the poor, including SS and Medicare. The next coup will be a Pinocet-style coup, I saw those results while working in Chile.

appalachiablue

(41,113 posts)
14. Glad you mentioned Chile, it's crossed my mind
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:18 AM
Jan 2022

lately and I haven't seen mentions of it although other accounts of authoritarian regime takeovers have been circulating.

The one brief time I was in Chile, Jan. 2, 1973 it was for a stop over on the way back from Brazil to the US when I was a young teen. Parked at the Santiago airport gate, I heeded the airline staff warning to not to get off the plane, or if we did make it quick.

After looking out the window and seeing a grim Chilean soldier wearing a Mussolini style helmet and carring a machine gun, my instincts kicked in and I stayed. I knew nothing of the political turmoil happening then but learned years later. Serious, scary time.

gab13by13

(21,280 posts)
18. I worked in Santiago in 2002 and 2003,
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 12:15 PM
Jan 2022

Even then I made sure I kept a copy of my passport on me at all times and made sure I stayed away from the military police.

Told this story before but a group of us having a beer at an outside restaurant when a Chilean man jumped all over us, screaming at us, he knew we were Americans. I didn't know much Spanish at the time but I did pick up his saying Pimocet. I'm guessing he had relatives either murdered or imprisoned by Pinocet. Restaurant owner came out and sort of calmed him down. One of my co-workers gave him a couple of cigarettes and we walked away with him. In Chile when a drink is good you run your hand down your throat, when it sucks you run your hand up your throat to simulate puking. We all learned to do the puking movement when speaking of George W. Bush. The Chileans were very much opposed to the Iraq war.

The people there were super great, so poor that money was no object. We helped them out all we could, we gave them whatever tools we could spare before we left. We were rebuilding glass bottle making machines.

appalachiablue

(41,113 posts)
24. They had reason for the views of America, and cool
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 02:57 PM
Jan 2022

about the drink approval or dislike gesture. I'm sure they're good folks, ones that lost many social programs and policies with the transition in the 70s, 80s. For many places, US included I hope things improve but in this illiberal era and with climate change it could be rough.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
6. Yes, sir. Not to mention the hate porn and lie porn and terrorism porn the platforms deliver to
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:31 AM
Jan 2022

your mobile device, wherever you many roam connected to corporate surveillance towers.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
19. We control what we see on Twitter, or at least I do. Everyone can.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 12:55 PM
Jan 2022

I just saw this, I must admit:




So my feed isn't all science, math, and related nerdiness. I follow my state health department too, for the covid updates.

Twitter is what we make it. That's a huge contrast to wingnuts being hypnotized by propaganda cable networks in a one-way only feed.

For me, Twitter is stuff like Parrot of the Day. You decide what to follow.


 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
21. Exactly what m saying, except for the parrot, actual books of parrot pictures are better though.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 01:14 PM
Jan 2022

The video of the other parrot, the old orange parrot parroting his version of Mussolini is the unacceptable pollution.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
23. Twitter is an uplifting source of artistic inspiration and scientific news, just make it so.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 01:55 PM
Jan 2022

Which isn't exactly what you said. Why promulgate the doom and gloom perspective being spread to rid Twitter of the voices of reason and enlightenment? Why not be proactive in making Twitter and the world a better place instead of declaring defeat and retreating? Don't allow one moronic orange mango to determine if Twitter is good or bad, when you can make Twitter into what you want.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
27. It's not one moronic fellow, it's an army of hate in that Twitter machine. And no way to get rid of
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 07:29 PM
Jan 2022

it but to buy it out and shut it down and m short of funds right now.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
16. I think television news and opinion is far more paralyzing than twitter.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:29 AM
Jan 2022

Nevertheless I've removed both from my personal universe.

Fascism won't be defeated with tweets or television sound bites, and the solutions to global warming and climate change won't be hammered out in those arenas.

bhikkhu

(10,714 posts)
20. Personally, I gave up reddit a month or so ago
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 12:59 PM
Jan 2022

...decided it wasn't good for me psychologically, and I didn't like the direction some of the community seemed to be headed. I never did get into twitter or any of the others.

It gets to be a weird thing where you read a news story and know what you think about it, and predict what other people will think about it, then you hop onto the comments and downvote people with the wrong perspective, upvote like-minded people, sometimes get in and argue or try to change people's minds. That pretty much never works, btw.

Then there's the actual common thing where you see a headline and don't read the article but jump right to the comments to see what it's about and what people are thinking. In spite of most of them not reading the article either, but either patting each other on the back or beating each other down for what they think it's about and what they think people are thinking.

Which is all very human, but almost completely non-productive and semi-pathological.

I went back to what I used to do most of my life, which is to read the actual news from an actual news source (BBC usually), and let that be the end of it. Winter is always kind of rough mentally anyway, but I'm pretty sure I'm not missing much and it hasn't been bad. And then I can still pop in here and follow things, though mostly I don't get into comments.

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