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UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:23 AM Jan 2022

Joe SCABS: "Don't call them insurrectionists - they are victims, TOOLS, vulnerable ones, USED"

Last edited Mon Jan 10, 2022, 12:08 PM - Edit history (1)

*** ON EDIT: Forgot "exploited" in the list. ***

From the beginning of 01-06-21, the wingnuts tried calling it a protest by protestors. That is, after the initial shock when the cops were killed and the congresscritters were on all fours on the floors, during which the wingnut congresscritters themselves were in a wild panic. The “protestors” label didn’t fly for long when the national consensus, except for the fringe wingnuts, took hold that they were INSURGENTS.

Just like the Iraq wingnut playbook that cycled every week (“Saddam tried to kill my daddy,” then, weapons-mass-destruction, then, Libs-racists-against-democracy-by-Arabs). Funny they never mentioned 9-11 regarding Iraq. So now they are substituting “1-6” instead of “Iraq” on the same playbook.

It took them months to get past the “protestor” phase and a year recently to try out the not-so-bad scenario: “The Libs are hyperbolic, it wasn’t that big a deal, if that’s all it takes to bring down the country then we’re in big trouble.” All that besides their go-to slur that Dems “politicize.”

Another funny: How they didn’t think they were exaggerating and politicizing with Benghazi and Hillary’s e-mail recipes.

So this morning, there was Joe SCABS speiling (from a NY Times opinion?) that we should stop calling them insurrectionists and be enlightened that they are: Victims, vulnerable ones, TOOLS (by whom - Drumpf?), USED by media for CLICKS.






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Walleye

(31,008 posts)
1. Well they looked like a bunch of overweight middle-aged white men to me
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:26 AM
Jan 2022

What exactly were they vulnerable to besides their own twisted minds. Stuff it, Scabs!

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
3. Bull. Shit. They knew exactly what they were doing.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:38 AM
Jan 2022

Regardless of how stupid, or triggered, or whatever they were, they knew they were committing crimes. These were not teenagers on a teenaged rampage. Most of those assholes came ready to do battle. They openly talked about killing Pence and memebers of Congress. They caused deaths. They are all fucking traitors, and nothing can excuse that. Nothing can make that go away.

I, for one, will never forgive, and will never forget. I would think there are multi-millions like me.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
15. This
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 02:16 PM
Jan 2022

My parents taught all of us about actions and consequences.
I have protested on more than a few occasions. As soon as I saw folks breaking the law, I’d point this out to those I came with and we were out of there.

dem4decades

(11,282 posts)
4. Maybe he's speaking directly to them. letting them know they've been played by Trump.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:38 AM
Jan 2022

Trying to goad them into turning against their cult leader that is using them as pawns.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
13. Exactly. Reverse-psychology. Gotta admit Joe knows those neanderthals well
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 12:46 PM
Jan 2022

so he knows what might work. They love the insurrectionist title, so, don't use it. We think it's derogatory, but they embrace it.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
8. I thought they were all Ruggedly Exceptional Individualists able to discern right from wrong
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:52 AM
Jan 2022

Or, maybe, they're both victims, tools, used vulnerable ones AND insurrectionists.

To suggest otherwise would absolve them of guilt for their crimes because of the bad choices they made in life.....which doesn't sound very exceptional to me.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
9. The only value that comes from that show is how not to educate the public.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:57 AM
Jan 2022

I don't know if the film, Don't Look Up planned on doing a parody of that show, but it seemed a fair conclusion to me.

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
11. While you can have a small drop of empathy for these people -
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 12:19 PM
Jan 2022

they comitted treason imho.

I'm sure there is a spectrum of how much they were completely fooled by lies - vs really already deep-down wanting to violently overthrow their country.

But they were still traitors, and should be punished much more harshly than most of them have been.

tanyev

(42,550 posts)
14. They can be all of those things AND insurrectionists.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 02:08 PM
Jan 2022

There are plenty of Trump lovers who didn’t come to DC and didn’t invade the Capitol.

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