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(12,154 posts)
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 07:47 PM Jan 2022

One-Way Masking Works

If you’re vaccinated, boosted, and wearing an N95, you’re protected—no matter what others are doing.
- By Olga Khazan, The Atlantic, Jan. 10, 2022

Florida, where I’ve spent the winter holidays, is now a severe-looking blackish purple on coronavirus-case-rate maps. I’ll probably get COVID any minute now, because my fellow revelers seem not overly concerned about keeping their excretions to themselves. The other day, one young man turned his head to the side and hocked a loogie into the sand a few feet away from me. Another took a big inhale from the hookah he had brought to the beach, then puffed a cloud of apple-scented lung aerosols into the South Florida sky and, as it happens, into my nostrils as well. Indoors, I am one of the few people who wears a mask at all.

Earlier in the pandemic, this would have terrified me because, as the 2020-era mantra went, “my mask protects you, and your mask protects me.” In the Sunshine State, though, “your mask” is often nonexistent. But some researchers now think that catchphrase needs an update. Though universal masking is still safest, my mask protects me too. And wearing a good-quality mask while vaccinated and boosted (which I am) protects me pretty darn well, regardless of what everyone else is doing.

If you are vaccinated, boosted, and wearing a well-fitted N95 or similar indoors, “your risk is extremely low,” says Joseph Allen, a COVID and ventilation expert at Harvard. “I mean, there’s not much else in life that would have as low a risk as that. I would qualify your risk as de minimis.” An N95 mask filters about 95 percent of airborne particles. But two surgical masks—one on me, one on you—filter only about 91 percent, Allen wrote recently for The Washington Post. Because most people’s masks aren’t perfectly sealed onto their faces, studies show that N95s reduce the wearer’s uptake of coronavirus particles by 57 to 86 percent. And that’s on top of the protection that vaccines and boosters already offer.

Ideally, everyone would wear masks indoors for the next few weeks. That’s not going to happen, though. The good news is that if you’re boosted and wear a high-quality mask, you’ll probably be okay anyway. Some experts even think people who are triple-vaccinated and wearing N95s can go about their normal activities. “They should feel pretty safe because the booster provides strong protection against severe outcomes, and even if infected people are present and releasing viruses into the air, a properly fitting N95 will reduce the amount you breathe in by 95 percent or more,” says Linsey Marr, an environmental engineer at Virginia Tech who specializes in airborne transmission. “The combination of vaccination with [a] booster and an N95 provides excellent protection.”

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The caveat is that your mask has to fit well, and it has to be an N95 or similar—cloth masks offer scant protection against Omicron. “Well fitting” means you shouldn’t have any air leakage out of the sides of the mask, near the nose, or by the chin. If you wear glasses, they shouldn’t fog up. “If you breathe in, the face piece should collapse inward just a little bit,” says Lisa Brosseau, a consultant and an expert on industrial hygiene. “If you breathe outward, you should get a little bit of expansion of the face piece.”

More at link: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/01/does-it-help-wear-mask-if-no-one-else/621177/

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One-Way Masking Works (Original Post) Pinback Jan 2022 OP
scant seems a bit extreme qazplm135 Jan 2022 #1
The CIDRAP chart in that link shows that a typical cloth mask has 75% leakage, Pinback Jan 2022 #3
again qazplm135 Jan 2022 #4
The nurse who works right next to me 8-12hrs a day has COVID. Maru Kitteh Jan 2022 #2
thank you, we are doing the same! HAB911 Jan 2022 #5

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
1. scant seems a bit extreme
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 09:28 PM
Jan 2022

cloth masks provide 20-26 minutes in most situations according to the chart in the link.

If you are just stopping in to get a few things or whatnot, seems like it works well.

If you are going to be spending 30 minutes or more inside with other people then yeah, your protection level is going to drop compared to other options.

Pinback

(12,154 posts)
3. The CIDRAP chart in that link shows that a typical cloth mask has 75% leakage,
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 12:02 AM
Jan 2022

while a non-fit-tested N95 has 20% leakage (and a fit-tested N95 has only 10% leakage). (Source: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/10/commentary-what-can-masks-do-part-1-science-behind-covid-19-protection)

The estimate of 20-26 minutes to an infectious dose with cloth masks is from a pre-Omicron study, as stated in the footnote below Table 1 (back when the estimate for time to transmission between two completely unmasked individuals was said to be as long as 15 minutes!).

As we know, this new variant is a great deal more transmissible than Delta or the previous iterations. For estimating risk based on the chart you reference in the Oct. 2021 CIDRAP article linked from the Atlantic piece, a more useful metric is that N95s are approximately 4-5 times more effective at filtering COVID droplets from unmasked people than cloth masks are.

This 1/5/2022 USA Today article -- "Most people are still wearing cloth masks. Here's why that's a problem with omicron" -- has similar information:

Why aren't cloth face masks effective as omicron spikes?
While cloth masks can filter large droplets, N95s can filter both large droplets and the smaller aerosols that may contain the airborne virus. N95s are also especially efficient, filtering out about 95% of airborne particles.

Infectious disease expert Steven Gordon told Cleveland Clinic that all studies show omicron is the most easily transmissible coronavirus variant, and that's why health experts urge a change in masks. Gordon added that while cloth masks help prevent the exhale of particles, it doesn't do much to prevent inhaling particles, which is a problem with omicron.

- More at link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/01/05/cloth-masks-not-effective-omicron-covid/9091574002/

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
4. again
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 01:06 AM
Jan 2022

no one is saying cloth masks equal n95.

The quibble is with the idea that cloth masks are useless. They aren't.
If all 330 million Americans rushed out to buy N95 masks, how do you think that will go?
How many will lose or damage them and need more?
How many can afford them?
What percentage are counterfeit? I read up to 60 percent sold are.

It's mighty fine to say N95s are much better, surgical are significantly better.

It's another to make cloth masks out to be useless.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
2. The nurse who works right next to me 8-12hrs a day has COVID.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 09:44 PM
Jan 2022

I started wearing N95s everywhere except my house about 4 weeks ago.

No COVIDS for me, thank you very much.


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