Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 08:05 PM Jan 2022

So my 91-year-old Mom has COVID.

She tested positive today, so far no symptoms, but the care facility she's in is moving her to a different room in a wing with 2 other COVID patients. She is vaxxed and boosted.

Mom has dementia and won't understand any of this. She was just starting to feel comfortable in her room there, and now she can't get physical therapy, or activities, or see any family members.

The facility did everything right to try and keep COVID out. All workers, even visiting nurses, had to be vaccinated and boosted. All visitors lately had to wear N-95 masks. They locked out visitors when a staffer tested positive but since then several more have tested positive, including staff and residents. Omicron is so contagious, it seems there's no way to stop it.

Since Mom had a bad fall and was hospitalized when a previously facility put her in room lockdown during a COVID outbreak, this is so stressful. I felt I had no choice to keep her safe but to hire an outside caregiving service for the next 2 weeks. There is one caregiver willing to sit with COVID patients at a high hourly rate and you have to pay her salary for the full 2 weeks since she can't be around anyone else. But better than having Mom fall trying to get up; she's previously had a broken back, sternum, twisted ankle and head injury because she can't remember that she can't walk unassisted and cannot be left alone during the day; normally she is in the activity room and observed during the day and given something at night to help her sleep.

Does anyone know if there's any sort of program to get reimbursed for this cost needed to keep her safe?

I am so furious with the anti-vax, anti-mask morons that are keeping this pandemic going and incubating new variants.

24 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
So my 91-year-old Mom has COVID. (Original Post) Liberty Belle Jan 2022 OP
((Liberty)) blm Jan 2022 #1
Hugs. onecaliberal Jan 2022 #2
I'm so sorry. luvs2sing Jan 2022 #3
I will pray for her safety and recovery. Anyone who has had a loved one Tanuki Jan 2022 #4
Oh, liberty, I am so very sorry that you and your mom are going through this. Sending niyad Jan 2022 #5
Similar story with my 93 yo MIL. She did have some stomach symptoms robbedvoter Jan 2022 #6
I'm glad your Mom recovered. Liberty Belle Jan 2022 #21
this makes me so mad that the idiots dont belive in masks and or vaxx.:( AllaN01Bear Jan 2022 #7
Omicron is crazy contagious. Ms. Toad Jan 2022 #8
I'm glad you recovered. Liberty Belle Jan 2022 #15
Unless Medicare pays for (likely) a very expensive test to Ms. Toad Jan 2022 #19
This is very similar to my Mom's situation. TygrBright Jan 2022 #9
:What a great person you are to do this for your mom. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #10
Thank you for checking. This is a gap that ought to get filled one of these days. Liberty Belle Jan 2022 #16
Just an idea. Can you get the relatives of the other two covid Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2022 #17
regarding what laura pourmeadrink said... orleans Jan 2022 #18
I fucking hate Medicare. Now they cut out her physical therapy completey; Liberty Belle Jan 2022 #22
I am incensed that a nation that dares call itself "great" allows our elders Maru Kitteh Jan 2022 #11
Thanks antivaxxers COL Mustard Jan 2022 #12
So, disgusting. Hope she recovers fully. You take care of yourself, too! electric_blue68 Jan 2022 #13
I am so sorry about your mom. I feel your frustration with these morons. They don't make sense. LoisB Jan 2022 #14
I feel your pain. AmBlue Jan 2022 #20
Mom can't live at home or with us because she's in a wheelchair, and our house has stairs Liberty Belle Jan 2022 #23
I'm so sorry AmBlue Jan 2022 #24

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
4. I will pray for her safety and recovery. Anyone who has had a loved one
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 08:23 PM
Jan 2022

with dementia can empathize with what you, and she, are going through.

niyad

(113,257 posts)
5. Oh, liberty, I am so very sorry that you and your mom are going through this. Sending
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 08:52 PM
Jan 2022

vibes for healing and strength and endurance for both of you.

robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
6. Similar story with my 93 yo MIL. She did have some stomach symptoms
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 09:06 PM
Jan 2022

so they took her to the hospital, the returned her to the care facility two days later. Everyone there is in lockdown, no commo activities for a week or more, Several residents and staff have it. No scheduled test/information from them. Same thing about schedule. No visitors allowed. Same sentiment about the antivaxxers.

AllaN01Bear

(18,147 posts)
7. this makes me so mad that the idiots dont belive in masks and or vaxx.:(
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 09:09 PM
Jan 2022

this is why i get vaxxed and mask up. i would really feel guilty if i gave your gma covid. i wanna bring this moster down to 0 . goose egg. but the idiots wont help.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
8. Omicron is crazy contagious.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 09:14 PM
Jan 2022

I'm the most careful person I now - and I likely had it just before Christmas.

I can still count on 10 fingers the number of times I've eaten indoors with people who do not live with me since March 2020. Never stopped masking. Test regularly.

I do continue living in this world, but never outside of my home without a well-fitted close-weave mask (and now KN94s).

I never tested positive (not even with a PCR test), but my daughter who had identical (but enhanced) symptoms 6 days later tested positive. (And I'm now past her contagious period without getting it - and I was fairly well exposed to her during that time so if I didn't give it to her she most likey got it from me.

Sorry about your mom - and I'm furious, too.

Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
15. I'm glad you recovered.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:45 PM
Jan 2022

I've heard that it sometimes takes longer for Omicron to show on tests and also that throat swabs are more accurate with Omicron, though Mom had a nasal swab test. You could ask to have a blood test to see if you had COVID, which might set your mind at ease over fearing every exposure in the next few weeks, though even having the disease doesn't offer long-term protection now.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
19. Unless Medicare pays for (likely) a very expensive test to
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:07 PM
Jan 2022

distinguish between vaccine-induced antibodies and disease-induced ones, it will remain a medical mystery.

After I had a PCR test at the peak of my symptoms, the FDA identified three PCR tests which looked for parts of genes which omicron mutated out - which were expected to have higher than average false negatives. My guess is that I was tested using one of those tests (or another not yet identified). The FDA announcement was 6 days after my swab, and 3 days before my daughter's.

TygrBright

(20,756 posts)
9. This is very similar to my Mom's situation.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 09:44 PM
Jan 2022

Although her health is good, the ongoing "now we can eat in the dining room, now we have to stay in our apartments and let the staff bring meals" changes have been very difficult for her, and the isolation and stress are very difficult.

I hope you find an option to help your Mom get the care she needs. I'll be holding you both in my heart.

lovingly,
Bright

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. :What a great person you are to do this for your mom.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 09:50 PM
Jan 2022

Last edited Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:27 PM - Edit history (1)

I have not heard of any programs that reimburse for covid expense. But I will look tomorrow.

On edit:. I found no program related to covid. Reimbursement for rent and student loans and a couple other things but not private nurse . Medicare pays for up to 21 days of in home nursing but it's "in home" and I didn't see where this applied to in a facility. But you could call them? Good luck.

Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
16. Thank you for checking. This is a gap that ought to get filled one of these days.
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:46 PM
Jan 2022

At least Mom has savings so we were able to do this for her, albeit draining down her resources. I really feel for patients of families who cannot do this. It's inhumane to leave seniors with dementia all alone on room lockdown.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. Just an idea. Can you get the relatives of the other two covid
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:57 PM
Jan 2022

patients to share expense? And what about the facility itself. What is their plan to staff that wing? After all it was their fault that your mom wasn't protected and caught covid. Strikes me that they should be more than willing to staff up or maybe partially reimburse?

I know exactly what you mean. My dad had dementia and every fall he had was because he forgot he couldn't get up and walk on his own.

orleans

(34,049 posts)
18. regarding what laura pourmeadrink said...
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 11:01 PM
Jan 2022

medicare will pay for "in home" nursing--
here's the thing: that facility IS her home
she lives there, she gets mail there, she sleeps and eats there--it IS her home
they have your mom isolated in a room? she needs a caregiver!
please call medicare -- if they won't help have them tell you where you can find help.

another thought: a gofund me?

i've never set one up before but--- just a thought.

really sorry to hear about this going on with your mom.

Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
22. I fucking hate Medicare. Now they cut out her physical therapy completey;
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 01:45 AM
Jan 2022

Not due to COVID, they found I'd been supplementing their meager once-a-week session with extra PT I paid for our of pocket, so decided to eliminate even the once-a-week they were paying for, which isn't nearly enough. she used to get 3 times a week and has gotten weaker ever since they eliminated that.

This torture of the elderly is cruel and sickening, and is bankrupting families.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
11. I am incensed that a nation that dares call itself "great" allows our elders
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:04 PM
Jan 2022

and their families to face this kind of crushing burden without support.

I so wish I had something much more meaningful than by heartfelt wishes to offer you. I am sorry.


AmBlue

(3,108 posts)
20. I feel your pain.
Tue Jan 11, 2022, 10:49 AM
Jan 2022

My mom is 89 and has CLL leukemia and dementia and lives with me. Her dementia is getting really bad and everything is a challenge. She can still eat and walk with assistance but that's about it. Because of her CLL and covid we haven't even considered ALFs. Her immune-compromised state makes her very vulnerable.

I did learn that once the dementia is advanced enough to qualify them for hospice care, Medicare pays 100% for nursing visits and you get a team assigned that includes a social worker. My SIL's dad just passed away of dementia and had this care for a year and a half at no cost to her dad. Have you checked out if she qualifies for these resources?

It is so sad that our country doesn't provide support for our elders and those of us who are caregivers are on our own.

Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
23. Mom can't live at home or with us because she's in a wheelchair, and our house has stairs
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 01:48 AM
Jan 2022

even to get in the front door. We kept her at home for a long time because we didn't want to put her into a facility with COVID lockdowns but the choice was taken away from us when she fell and broke her back and sternum.

No doctor has declared her within 6 months of end of life, so we can't even get hospice care.

It truly is a nightmare. I'm glad you have some help for your Mom, and understand what a difficult time this is for you.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»So my 91-year-old Mom has...