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packman

(16,296 posts)
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 01:16 PM Jan 2022

Cannabis compounds stopped COVID virus from infecting human cells in lab study

Forget about bleach, horse de-wormer and/or drinking urine - try pot----

Cannabis compounds prevented the virus that causes COVID-19 from penetrating healthy human cells, according to a laboratory study published in the Journal of Nature Products.

The two compounds commonly found in hemp — called cannabigerolic acid, or CBGA, and cannabidiolic acid, or CBDA — were identified during a chemical screening effort as having potential to combat coronavirus, researchers from Oregon State University said. In the study, they bound to spike proteins found on the virus and blocked a step the pathogen uses to infect people.

The researchers tested the compounds’ effect against alpha and beta variants of the virus in a laboratory.


https://fortune.com/2022/01/12/cannabis-compounds-stop-covid-virus-infecting-human-cells-lab-study/

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Cannabis compounds stopped COVID virus from infecting human cells in lab study (Original Post) packman Jan 2022 OP
Time to .... mbusby Jan 2022 #1
Wouldn't that be great if the cure for this thing was found in nature the whole time? Initech Jan 2022 #2
I'll add that to my daily routine. James48 Jan 2022 #3
Please do your daily routine correctly...... KS Toronado Jan 2022 #37
But gummies are OK, right? XacerbatedDem Jan 2022 #44
I believe gummies contain the "cannabinoid acids" KS Toronado Jan 2022 #46
Thank you XacerbatedDem Jan 2022 #47
Vape Strelnikov_ Jan 2022 #51
Cannabinoids: Beyond THC and CBD Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2022 #53
Perhaps this explains why I just tested negative after intheflow Jan 2022 #4
I was about to say, no wonder I haven't caught the covid! Solomon Jan 2022 #50
Maybe the government dweller Jan 2022 #5
Bob Dylan knew this decades ago, 😉 Raftergirl Jan 2022 #6
Marijuana proves God loves us Mysterian Jan 2022 #7
Just like Traildogbob Jan 2022 #17
Could be why... 2naSalit Jan 2022 #8
I was just thinking that, too! calimary Jan 2022 #12
Damn right. 2naSalit Jan 2022 #13
Phew.. !!!! alittlelark Jan 2022 #9
I continue to test negative.... NightWatcher Jan 2022 #10
Once again, cannibis shows its worth to humanity. Mr. Evil Jan 2022 #11
But we had to outlaw it because it's immoral! Lonestarblue Jan 2022 #22
Works or me! hot2na Jan 2022 #14
Snoop Dogg must be immune, then SpankMe Jan 2022 #15
I hope this is true SCantiGOP Jan 2022 #16
This would just be way too karmic! rurallib Jan 2022 #18
Cannabinoids Block Cellular Entry of SARS-CoV-2 and the Emerging Variants (link below) Red Pest Jan 2022 #19
Who's ready to write that NIH research grant proposal for this one?????? Ford_Prefect Jan 2022 #20
hmmm... would this include gummies IcyPeas Jan 2022 #21
Well, I can tell you from personal experience that regular pot doesn't stop Covid. lark Jan 2022 #23
Looks like time to "do my own research" jcgoldie Jan 2022 #24
Anecdotally, I know a nurse, who loves her pot, got Covid SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2022 #25
Maybe this could push it toward nationwide legalization. Chakaconcarne Jan 2022 #26
Would this include both THC and CBD products? Reader Rabbit Jan 2022 #27
Hold off on the partying. tavernier Jan 2022 #28
As someone in the field just told me there are many compounds that will do the same as those yaesu Jan 2022 #33
Awesome! Between this and the booster shots I should be bullet-proof by now! iscooterliberally Jan 2022 #29
It's exiting, but how to use the compounds? 58Sunliner Jan 2022 #30
I guess the problem with the horse dewormer study is that horse dewormer doesn't get you high. mathematic Jan 2022 #31
If it sounds too good to be true..... Demobrat Jan 2022 #32
let's see if the repugs pick this up instead of bleach - the cognitive dissonance samsingh Jan 2022 #34
Weed plus caffeine equals long life BootinUp Jan 2022 #35
Breakfast Of Champions musette_sf Jan 2022 #36
In Vitro Studies Are Often Not Indicators for In Vivo Reality. MineralMan Jan 2022 #38
Just about anything will kill COVID.... SergeStorms Jan 2022 #39
Hope this works out good. Nt Baked Potato Jan 2022 #40
This sounds like the Democratic answer to horse paste AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2022 #41
Article says nothing about smoking. RandiFan1290 Jan 2022 #48
Well, that explains it then shanti Jan 2022 #42
Canada did some studies last year DuaneT Jan 2022 #43
Caffeine can too ecstatic Jan 2022 #45
There you have, everybody must get high! Emile Jan 2022 #49
duuuuude.. denbot Jan 2022 #52

KS Toronado

(17,199 posts)
37. Please do your daily routine correctly......
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 04:02 PM
Jan 2022

Found this after a little searching......

Smoking cannabis does not offer any protection from the virus that causes COVID-19.

"The benefit for preventing viral infection of cells must come from cannabinoid acids, which are heat sensitive and must not be smoked, or it would convert them to CBD and so forth," van Breemen said. "So that wouldn't work for the antiviral effect."

The study tested the effectiveness of the compounds against the original, alpha and beta strains of SARS-CoV-2, according to the news release, but not more recent variants such as delta and omicron.

"I don't think the compounds in hemp are the answer to the pandemic, but rather part of the solution," van Breemen said.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/osu-study-hemp-compounds-block-coronavirus/283-456392dc-8006-4e3f-8a88-71cdd5e460d1

So, rolling a doobie up doesn't help but CBD might

KS Toronado

(17,199 posts)
46. I believe gummies contain the "cannabinoid acids"
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 10:35 AM
Jan 2022

A little WWW search on gummies should reveal a lot on the subject. And welcome to DU!

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
51. Vape
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:44 AM
Jan 2022

But probably a one or two and done, as my understanding is the cannabinoids are gone fairly quickly.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
53. Cannabinoids: Beyond THC and CBD
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 09:59 AM
Jan 2022

Tetrahydrocannabinolic Acid (THCA) is the precursor to THC and found in high concentrations in cannabis flower. When heated, THCA becomes decarboxylated, creating THC. Unlike THC, THCA is not intoxicating, but it can still have powerful anti-nausea effects.

Similar to THCA, Cannabidiolic Acid (CBDA) is the precursor to CBD found in cannabis flower. CBDA is typically found in higher concentrations in hemp. When heated, CBDA is converted to CBD. One study showed that CBDA inhibits cell migration in aggressive breast cancer.

· Cannabinol (CBN) forms when THC is degraded and is often found in older cannabis plants. When combined with THC, CBN is highly sedative. That’s why timing your cannabis harvest is crucial to getting the right effect. Studies have demonstrated that CBN has anticonvulsant, anti-inflammatory, and antibacterial effects.

· Cannabigerol (CBG) is a pretty amazing compound. The acid form of CBG, CBGA, is the precursor to THCA, CBDA, and many other phytocannabinoids. It’s also a strong anti-bacterial agent and has potential as an analgesic and antidepressant.

https://www.encore-labs.com/cannabinoids-beyond-thc-and-cbd


Many CBD products are isolates, ie pure CBD, without the precursor cannabinoids. Full spectrum/Broad spectrum CBD products may contain the precursor cannabinoids that block Covid, but the question here is, do they contain sufficient amounts of these precursor cannabinoids to block the virus after ingesting them? I have found CBD to be good medicine for certain purposes, but it may not be effective against Covid.

Whatever the case, many studies should be undertaken immediately to first identify all the most effective Covid blocking cannabinoids, and the effective dosages necessary for ingesting them in order to block Covid.

I can't help but wonder if pharmaceutical companies are already obstructing the research of cannabinoids and their effectiveness in blocking the virus from en.tering human cells.

dweller

(23,628 posts)
5. Maybe the government
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 01:28 PM
Jan 2022

should send every household some of the good stuff they’re holding ?
🤔


✌🏻

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
22. But we had to outlaw it because it's immoral!
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jan 2022

We have some terrible laws because of religion! The country’s leaders should have learned from Prohibition that it’s better to tax substances like alcohol and drugs than to outlaw them and create a black market that only leads to crime. When a minority view of morality guides lawmaking, as in banning all abortion, things tend to go awry.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
15. Snoop Dogg must be immune, then
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 02:25 PM
Jan 2022

But, any journal with the word "Products" in it's title pretty much takes away all credibility, in my opinion.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
16. I hope this is true
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 02:25 PM
Jan 2022

but it does sound like something two stoners would come up with after one too many bong hits

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
18. This would just be way too karmic!
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 02:30 PM
Jan 2022

I so hope it is true.

I do not indulge, but I would for science, Yes I would.

Red Pest

(288 posts)
19. Cannabinoids Block Cellular Entry of SARS-CoV-2 and the Emerging Variants (link below)
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 02:35 PM
Jan 2022

[link:https://doi.org/10.1021/acs.jnatprod.1c00946|

Abstract:

As a complement to vaccines, small-molecule therapeutic agents are needed to treat or prevent infections by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) and its variants, which cause COVID-19. Affinity selection–mass spectrometry was used for the discovery of botanical ligands to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. Cannabinoid acids from hemp (Cannabis sativa) were found to be allosteric as well as orthosteric ligands with micromolar affinity for the spike protein. In follow-up virus neutralization assays, cannabigerolic acid and cannabidiolic acid prevented infection of human epithelial cells by a pseudovirus expressing the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and prevented entry of live SARS-CoV-2 into cells. Importantly, cannabigerolic acid and cannabidiolic acid were equally effective against the SARS-CoV-2 alpha variant B.1.1.7 and the beta variant B.1.351. Orally bioavailable and with a long history of safe human use, these cannabinoids, isolated or in hemp extracts, have the potential to prevent as well as treat infection by SARS-CoV-2.


Enjoy! (pun intended).

lark

(23,091 posts)
23. Well, I can tell you from personal experience that regular pot doesn't stop Covid.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 02:49 PM
Jan 2022

My son (a wake & bake pot smoker) was living with us last year and got Covid at work. I got it from him and I smoke pot too.

Reader Rabbit

(2,624 posts)
27. Would this include both THC and CBD products?
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 03:06 PM
Jan 2022

I use CBD gummies to help me sleep sometimes, and it would be awesome if they had that side benefit.

tavernier

(12,377 posts)
28. Hold off on the partying.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 03:06 PM
Jan 2022

My SIL and granddaughter, daily smokers and gummy users , both got Covid last year. Both vaccinated as well. SIL required monoclonal antibodies.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
33. As someone in the field just told me there are many compounds that will do the same as those
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 03:20 PM
Jan 2022

mentioned, The trick is how does one delivery the compound safely in vivo. Smoking & eating probably isn't the way to deliver those compounds, the eggheads will have to figure it out.

58Sunliner

(4,381 posts)
30. It's exiting, but how to use the compounds?
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 03:12 PM
Jan 2022

The acids are neutralized during decarboxylation, so would ingested extracts work from raw plant material, or are we talking about a nasal spray?

Phytocannabinoids: Biosynthetic Pathway
Around 113 phytocannabinoids are identified in C. sativa plant [27]. These cannabinoids are biosynthesized as carboxylic acid, with the precursor being cannabigerolic acid 1 abbreviated as CBGA (Fig. 14.1). The synthesis of CBGA is an enzymatic reaction that involves an alkylation of olivetolic acid (alkylresorcinolic acid responsible for the polyketide nucleus of the cannabinoids) with the help of geranyl pyrophosphate [28]. The CBGA formed is sequentially converted into tetrahydrocannabinolic acid 2 (THCA), cannabidioloic acid (CBDA) 3, and cannabichromenic acid (CBCA) 4 with the help of synthase enzymes (THCA synthase, CBDA synthase, and CBCA synthase) [27]. These cannabinoids, especially THCA, secrete in the storage cavity of glandular trichomes [28] and are responsible for the self-defense mechanism of the cannabis plant with its insect repellant, absorption of ultraviolet radiation, and cell death properties [28]. These acids are decarboxylated into their neutral homologous (THC, cannabidiol, and cannabichromene) by a nonenzymatic reaction involving heat or light, such as during storage or smoking (Fig. 14.1).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/cannabigerolic-acid

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
31. I guess the problem with the horse dewormer study is that horse dewormer doesn't get you high.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 03:13 PM
Jan 2022

Lets wait until we see some effectiveness outside of direct application to cells in a lab before we start raiding the local farm supply store for all their hemp.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
39. Just about anything will kill COVID....
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 04:13 PM
Jan 2022

in the correct concentration or amounts. Remember, people saw that study where Ivermectin killed COVID? Of course the amount of Ivermectin needed would probably be enough to kill a human being, but it killed the COVID as well!

I wouldn't trust this one study for definitive answers about the efficacy of cannabis compounds defeating the COVID virus.

That said, it would be great if it was true. If we got all of our country's/world's leaders baked I believe it would be a much nicer, and mellower, world to live in.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,008 posts)
41. This sounds like the Democratic answer to horse paste
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 05:00 PM
Jan 2022

We'll see if it's true in 5 days - I was exposed yesterday and have been smoking daily for a while.

DuaneT

(46 posts)
43. Canada did some studies last year
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 05:15 PM
Jan 2022
https://www.wthr.com/article/news/health/verify-canadian-study-found-some-cbd-strains-could-lower-chances-covid-more-research-needed/531-483039fc-e4a2-4f94-9bb1-a836905ec47a

BOTTOM LINE:
The study found promising results that certain CBD strains could lower the number of cells that the virus can infect. The researchers think this should be seen as reason for further research, not taken as fact.

This study has nothing to do with the recreational use of marijuana - and shouldn’t be an excuse for people to smoke it.

A less-entertaining headline might read that: A Canadian study found certain CBD strains could lower the chances of COVID infection - but more research is needed.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
45. Caffeine can too
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 10:28 AM
Jan 2022

And natural protease inhibitors. A lot of medications also interfere with the covid-19 binding process.

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