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When questioned about why Rudy Guiliani and his lawyers never brought up "fraud" in front of any of the courts? Yet, they were telling their supporters the election was a "fraud"? In other words, they were in front of the judges and they had no evidence whatsoever. Any wonder why the judges ruled against them in almost every single case, except the one where the poll watchers were permitted to stand closer.
Trump said:
"It was too early to ask for fraud and to talk about fraud. Rudy said that, because of the fact it was very early with the because that was obviously at a very, very that was a long time ago. The things that have found out have more than bore out what people thought and what people felt and what people found."
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It was too early to ask for fraud???
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)He keeps realizing hes about to say something incriminating, and he still manages to stop the freight train (his mouth) from saying something to implicate himself or others.
His handlers must really hate him giving interviews. He always confesses his own crimes, because hes proud of himself. But, this time, many other peoples freedom is on the line. Sad.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)What a scrambled mess of words.
Dude should be in the memory care wing at Gitmo.
Mad_Machine76
(24,409 posts)he is somehow qualified to run for President again if he so chooses.
TheRealNorth
(9,478 posts)Because then his supporters will hear what they want to hear.
Harker
(14,015 posts)Frappéd.
erronis
(15,241 posts)The image of a trumpian brain(?) being whirred and then served to his masses is a bit disturbing.
I guess one could order that on top of a Frappucino at your local stirbucks.
jaxexpat
(6,820 posts)Harker
(14,015 posts)underpants
(182,787 posts)Its like one of those movies with a wormhole. We all get lost at some point in the story
I love this because that was obviously at a very, very
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Fraud was further down on the list of schemes they would enact to try to overturn the election.
Trump will never be questioned under oath about his coup attempt. He would crumble, and give up everyone. It will be interesting to see the attempts to avoid giving testimony. I predict chaos, should he be subpoenaed.
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)Then it would take five more years for the perjury investigation.
gab13by13
(21,319 posts)sop
(10,166 posts)Trump had been alleging fraud all during the 2020 campaign and he started filing suits right after the election.
Stuart G
(38,420 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,261 posts)TFG does something like a buffer dump anytime he's asked a question -- whatever phrases he's recently associated with that topic, he just dumps them all together and leaves it up to the listener to figure out how to make a coherent statement from the collection. MAGAts hear what they want to hear; to the rest of us, it's just content-free gibberish.
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)That is the big lie right there. There are no "things" that "bore out" fraud. None.
iscooterliberally
(2,860 posts)I can't listen to Trump though. All he ever does is sputter sentence fragments. I guess if I snorted a gram of cocaine first he might start making sense to me. That would probably land me a trip straight to the ER though.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Fox or actual cocaine? Either seems to work.
Not that I would know ofc
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FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)The fraud didn't happen until January 6th, and it was done by the Repukes. But of course even Chump realizes that if he actually said that, he'd be incriminating all of them.
I think we should give him lots more chances to incriminate himself. Eventually he WILL do it, wait and see.
rownesheck
(2,343 posts)receive a frontal lobotomy as a child and no one told him?
CaptainTruth
(6,589 posts)Publicly they went on & on about fraud, said hundreds (if not thousands) of times there was fraud, yet none of the lawsuits they filed claimed there was any fraud.
It seemed clear that they realized they could blatantly lie to their low-information MAGAt followers & get away with it, but blatantly lying to a judge in court would not end well for them.
OMGWTF
(3,952 posts)That's likely the real reason why Ghouliani didn't bring up fraud in court. Rudy knows he's full of guano.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)The eloquence! Talk about thinking on your feet!!!
dchill
(38,474 posts)They also knew they were the fraudsters. Their story was still being written.
Ohio Joe
(21,755 posts)Because there was no fucking fraud... Gah, that fucking guy is an idiot.
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)There is no one he is listening to for advice. No one would have let him go on NPR if they could have stopped him.
There was nothing for him to gain. It was pure ego wanting to have an audience.
Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)They certainly swallow it eagerly.
krkaufman
(13,435 posts)Hes evolved the lie to be that it was too early to cite fraud because the evidence proving fraud had not YET been collected. It now has been.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)On television, since the only way they'd have to pay the price for their lies is if those statements were made under oath. That's why Rudy would go on TV and say one thing and then step into court and say another.
allegorical oracle
(2,357 posts)recalling Rudy's reaction upon losing the 1989 NYC Mayoral race. Rudy lost to David Dinkins by 47,080 votes and pitched a hissy fit, claiming Dinkins' voters stole votes. He said this in a CNN interview in 2016:
When I ran for mayor of New York City the first time, some people voted eight and 10 times. And the second time, I had I had firefighters and police officers outside checking on the buses, so we take down the number of the bus. The bus had voted 10 times. And then we wouldn't let the bus vote again, Giuliani told host Jake Tapper. He then insisted that because of his own campaigns vigilance in 1993, he was able to reduce the cheating to just 25,000 votes that year, helping him defeat the incumbent mayor. Dead people generally vote for Democrats, rather than Republicans, Giuliani added.