BREAKING: Supreme Court blocks Biden workplace vaccine-or-test requirement

[Nevilledog]

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Lawrence Hurley
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Jan 13, 2022
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BREAKING: Supreme Court allows Biden to enforce vaccine mandate for healthcare workers nationwide

Lawrence Hurley
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Justice Kavanaugh joins Chief Justice and liberals in the 5-4 decision allowing the healthcare vaccine mandate. Three liberals in dissent in the 6-3 decision blocking the OSHA policy
12:33 PM · Jan 13, 2022

[Goodheart]

1. Gee, what a shock.

[Johnny2X2X]

2. Great

So I will be forced to work next to unvaxxed spreaders soon.

[Zeitghost]

13. At this point

The numbers seem to indicate everyone is spreading it.

[2naSalit]

3. That's just going to...

Exacerbate the worker shortage and everything that comes with it.

[Celerity]

4. Covid wins again.

[dalton99a]

5. Four refuse to require healthcare workers to be vaccinated.

Think about that one

[Nevilledog]

9. This 👇

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SCOTUS blocks big business vaccine mandate so now you can die at your job while your vote doesn’t count.

12:35 PM · Jan 13, 2022

[crickets]

33. And the reply:

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Linda @ArizonaRN06
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The same SCOTUS that is so right to life now? Shocker.
2:36 PM · Jan 13, 2022

[Poiuyt]

6. I don't understand this -- I thought the Supreme Court ruled in the past that

vaccine mandates were okay. About a 100 years ago during either the small pox or the Spanish Flu epidemic (I forget which).

[MisterProton]

16. I'm sure there is some nuance between the cases

The OSHA ruling vote was 6-3 with Breyer, Sotomayor, and Kagan in dissent.

"Permitting OSHA to regulate the hazards of daily life - simply because most Americans have jobs and face those same risks while on the clock - would significantly expand OSHA’s regulatory authority without clear congressional authorization."

I see the logic, you can't have an unelected body having unlimited authority over such a broad swath of material without getting authorization for it. There have to be lines drawn somewhere. What if they had issued such a crazy edict as making everyone eat vegetables or go to the gym daily? Yes, its a good idea, but just because it's a good idea doesn't mean they have the authority to enforce it.

[Poiuyt]

26. Thanks

[wellst0nev0ter]

28. Why does it make sense to require an OSHA vaccine mandate for hospitals

But not businesses? Isn't that discriminatory to healthcare workers?

The justices are legislating from the bench. Period.

[MisterProton]

29. Because...

It's one thing to have a nurse or doctor standing over you while your compromised. It's another thing to ask some guy digging a ditch out in a field, who is in good health and not in a high risk group to get one.

As with most legislation, its a compromise. Same thing with abortion or any other legislation. Neither extreme is going to get what they want generally.

[Ace Rothstein]

22. In addition to what MisterProton said, those were state mandates.

[Poiuyt]

27. Thanks - I did't know that

[democrattotheend]

30. They have upheld a STATE's power to mandate vaccines

To the best of my knowledge, there is no Supreme Court precedent allowing the FEDERAL government to mandate vaccines. Health and welfare mandates are traditionally a power reserved to the states. Jacobsen v. Massachusetts, the smallpox case from 1905 that I believe you are referring to, upheld a state or local vaccine mandate, not a federal one.

[drray23]

8. So which one is it ?

First tweet says it's blocked, next one says Roberts joined with liberals to allow the mandate.

[Patton French]

10. Two different cases.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/13/supreme-court-ruling-biden-covid-vaccine-mandates.html

[Nevilledog]

12. Allowed just for health care workers

[Horse with no Name]

11. Fucking fascists

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

14. I don't want to hear anyone say the court is pro-life

[Casady1]

15. This court will always

rule in favor of corporations.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

19. Except I don't believe any corporation filed suit

It was the red states. In Florida it's illegal for any corporation to require a vaccine.

[Casady1]

24. They may have not filed suit

but the red states were doing the corporations bidding.

[LowerManhattanite]

32. One of the many reasons that misbegotten state...

…is high on my “Do not travel to”/“Limit business with” list.

[Nixie]

36. The cases I'm thinking of were injunctions against employers

for requiring workers to get vaxxed and wear masks. So the non-complying workers “won.”

[kentuck]

17. Now they'll have time to rule on Trump's executive privilege case?

Or will they continue to hold on to it for political reasons?

[shrike3]

18. Unvaccinated are twenty times as likely to die of Covid than vaccinated

But if they die -- they die.

As Bob Dylan once said, "I used to care, but things have changed."

[nattyice]

23. That's the silver lining. This will continue to reduce the number of GOP voters

[shrike3]

34. Hate to say it, but you're right.

[MichMan]

20. If I understand this, employers are still free to require it, but the government can't mandate it

Unless a particular state prohibits it

[nattyice]

21. Not in Florida

[BGBD]

25. Can't do it with an OSHA mandate...

The. Instead all federal agencies to deny contract bids to any company without a vaccine mandate. Call it a national security issue and related to force readiness.

[democrattotheend]

31. I don't like that idea

Especially of calling it a "national security issue". That is how the Bush administration got away with a lot of abuse and overreach, in the name of national security.

[BGBD]

37. It is a national security issue

If covid outbreaks are hurting defense supply chains.

[ecstatic]

35. Flame away, but as someone working in HR, I'm relieved

There is an assumption that any company with over 100 employees can easily comply but that's not the case with every company. We're already stretched to capacity and having to babysit/monitor the unvaxxed and their weekly tests would have been too much of an administrative burden. We'd literally have to assign folks to observe employees taking their weekly tests. Let someone else babysit the unvaxxed. Social workers or something. As was discussed during the oral arguments, the people who are at risk due to the unvaxxed are the unvaxxed.