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Why was Al Franken forced to resign, while GOPer... (Original Post) edhopper Jan 2022 OP
Because Al has integrity and a conscience SpankMe Jan 2022 #1
Except Franken wasn't "caught red-handed"; he was ratfucked by Leanne Tweeden et al, maxsolomon Jan 2022 #4
1000% edhopper Jan 2022 #5
Roger Stone used her. Like they used her to take down Dr Jocelyn Elders. tirebiter Jan 2022 #8
Yes! catrose Jan 2022 #18
Actually he lost all support in his party and that's why he quit. He now says resigning was an error PoliticAverse Jan 2022 #25
Because Republicans defend their members no matter what RB TexLa Jan 2022 #2
Because Democrats rushed to hound him out of office SoonerPride Jan 2022 #3
Indeed. I'm still mad at all of them. LakeArenal Jan 2022 #20
I wish Busterscruggs Jan 2022 #6
The picture lampooned a skit Franken and Tweeden were doing wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #22
He chose to resign. No one "forced" him. tritsofme Jan 2022 #7
Schumer told him edhopper Jan 2022 #9
Schumer wasn't wrong, but he had no way to force his resignation. tritsofme Jan 2022 #12
We disagree edhopper Jan 2022 #14
Republicans who resigned Locutusofborg Jan 2022 #10
Because he lost the support of EVERY Democratic Senator except for.....Joe Manchin. brooklynite Jan 2022 #11
Democrats have integrity Poiuyt Jan 2022 #16
Because we are stupid? Hekate Jan 2022 #13
He wasn't forced to resign. David__77 Jan 2022 #15
Schumer told Franken himself to resign wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #23
Because Democratic voters have standards. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2022 #17
Where were those standards for Bob Menendez? wellst0nev0ter Jan 2022 #24
I am not saying Franken should have resigned or that the situation was handled correctly. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2022 #27
Franken was forced out by his own party members who didn's even allow him an investigation. ShazamIam Jan 2022 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jan 2022 #21
Al Franken was sacrificed for a Doug Jones win, which saved the ACA krawhitham Jan 2022 #26

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
1. Because Al has integrity and a conscience
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 06:45 PM
Jan 2022

...something that's lacking in 90% of GOP'ers.

Dems & progressives: Get caught red-handed, apologize and gracefully bow out.

Repubs and conservatives: Get caught red-handed, deny, distort and fight until you wear out everyone around you.

maxsolomon

(33,316 posts)
4. Except Franken wasn't "caught red-handed"; he was ratfucked by Leanne Tweeden et al,
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 06:53 PM
Jan 2022

and his Senate colleagues threw him under the bus, so he resigned rather than have the internecine fight the GQP wanted.

Read, or don't: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken

tirebiter

(2,536 posts)
8. Roger Stone used her. Like they used her to take down Dr Jocelyn Elders.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:29 PM
Jan 2022

Not like she wasn’t a willing participant but Stone led the mission

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
25. Actually he lost all support in his party and that's why he quit. He now says resigning was an error
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 10:25 PM
Jan 2022
 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
2. Because Republicans defend their members no matter what
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 06:48 PM
Jan 2022

Democrats will only consider defending an accused Democratic official if their position is vulnerable.

Had Al been elected from North Carolina it might have been a different story.

 

Busterscruggs

(448 posts)
6. I wish
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:18 PM
Jan 2022

He hadn't decided to take that flack jacket picture. I had a hard time explaining that he wasn't a misogynist and was really a good man when that whole thing erupted. My friend kept saying "but did you see that picture?!"

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
22. The picture lampooned a skit Franken and Tweeden were doing
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 09:31 PM
Jan 2022

during the USO tour. There were other pictures of Franken doing the same pose on Tweeden, with the second clearly laughing at the joke.

Tell your friend they have been tricked by lying, two-faced trumpanzees.

tritsofme

(17,376 posts)
12. Schumer wasn't wrong, but he had no way to force his resignation.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:35 PM
Jan 2022

Franken could have chosen to try and ride out the storm, instead he chose to resign.

Locutusofborg

(525 posts)
10. Republicans who resigned
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:30 PM
Jan 2022

Mark Souder, Representative (Republican-Indiana) — A staunch advocate of abstinence and family values, Souder resigned to avoid an ethics investigation into his admitted extramarital affair with a female staffer.--2010

Chris Lee, Representative (Republican-New York) — Resigned hours after a news report stated that he had sent a shirtless picture of himself flexing his muscles to a woman via Craigslist, along with flirtatious e-mails. He did not rely on a pseudonym or a false e-mail address, but used his official Congressional e-mail for all communication. Lee said: “I regret the harm that my actions have caused my family, my staff, and my constituents.... I have made profound mistakes, and I promise to work as hard as I can to seek their forgiveness.”--2011

Blake Farenthold, Representative (Republican-Texas) — was reported to have paid $84,000 of taxpayer money, via the House of Representatives Office of Compliance, to settle a sexual harassment complaint from a former staffer. Farenthold's former communications director, Lauren Greene, sued the congressman in December 2014, and a settlement was reached in 2015. The identity of Farenthold with respect to taxpayer involvement was made public in 2017. This was the first documented case of taxpayer funds being used to settle sexual harassment complaints against a member of Congress. Upon resigning, Farenthold pledged to reimburse the US$84,000 in public money that he used to settle the lawsuit and then reneged on his pledge to repay in May 2018--(2014) (2018)

Tim Murphy, Representative (Republican-Pennsylvania) — Had an extramarital affair with Shannon Edwards, a 32-year-old forensic psychologist. The self-identified "pro-life" Murphy asked Edwards to have an abortion after she became pregnant. The information was revealed as part of Murphy's divorce proceedings, and published by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette after it fought in Pennsylvania state court to have the documents unsealed. Murphy resigned his seat in Congress.--2017

Trent Franks, Representative (Republican-Arizona) — was investigated by the House Ethics Commission about allegations of improper conduct. Before the study concluded, Franks abruptly resigned. Franks had repeatedly asked two female staffers to bear his children as surrogate mothers; he allegedly offered one of them $5 million to carry his child and retaliated against her when she declined. The women feared that Franks wanted to impregnate them sexually as part of the surrogacy process. (2017)

Joe Barton, Representative (Republican-Texas) — Acknowledged he took and emailed nude photos of himself in 2015, following leaks of the photos in November 2017. He decided not to seek re-election in 2018

Pat Meehan, Representative (Republican-Pennsylvania) — In January, 2018, it was revealed that Representative Meehan used taxpayer funds to settle a sexual harassment claim levied by a female staffer. He was removed from the House Ethics Committee, but remained in office until he resigned on April 27, 2018, stating that he would repay the taxpayer money used to settle the suit.--(2018)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_sex_scandals_in_the_United_States

brooklynite

(94,508 posts)
11. Because he lost the support of EVERY Democratic Senator except for.....Joe Manchin.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:32 PM
Jan 2022

What Republicans do is irrelevant.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
23. Schumer told Franken himself to resign
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 09:32 PM
Jan 2022

But you're right, Franken should have stayed, despite having almost the entire Democratic caucus wrongly against him.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
17. Because Democratic voters have standards.
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 07:42 PM
Jan 2022

Right or wrong, Franken was seen to have violated those standards. I don't know what else to say about it other than it is probably better to have standards than not.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
24. Where were those standards for Bob Menendez?
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 09:39 PM
Jan 2022

Yes, Menendez later had the corruption case against him dropped, and it would have been monumentally stupid to force him out of office while New Jersey had a goop governor who could replace him with another goop.

Franken should have at least had some sort of investigation done in his case before we acted.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
27. I am not saying Franken should have resigned or that the situation was handled correctly.
Fri Jan 14, 2022, 11:30 AM
Jan 2022

I'm merely stating the key condition that precipitated his resignation.

Response to edhopper (Original post)

krawhitham

(4,644 posts)
26. Al Franken was sacrificed for a Doug Jones win, which saved the ACA
Thu Jan 13, 2022, 10:34 PM
Jan 2022

Doug Jones' numbers were dropping fast because local media was running nothing but stories about Doug Jones being a hypocrite because Democrats were keeping Al while bashing child rapist Roy Moore (WOW Alabama, do better)

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