They claim they support voting rights and so much else of the Dem agenda.

[Stinky The Clown]

Do you believe our own TantrumTwins on this point, particularly as they rebuff THEIR president as recently as last night?

I do not.

[Walleye]

1. Dear Sens. Manchin and Cinema, could you please explain to us what the fuck you are doing.

Speak like senators. Tell us what your objective is. Tell us why. Quit acting like spoiled children who want attention. Or do you have a grudge and feel like a victim like the other side. If so please tell us. Many people worked hard to get you elected, answer to them

[WestIndianArchie]

4. Yup

I knew as soon as President Biden took office and started talking that simpleminded shit about bipartisanship, that he was going to kill his own agenda. He played around with these two assholes for a whole year. Considering the political environment, He should have been wearing out a pair of shoes in someone's ass every day until he got his agenda through. I am disappointed, to say the least.

[Walleye]

6. We're not even talking bipartisanship here we're talking Democrats

[WestIndianArchie]

7. I think we're talking about the same thing.

To clarify, Biden set the stage for dissension in his own ranks (Democrats) by talking about bipartisanship. He spent the whole year talking to these two assholes, in the foolish belief he could negotiate to them. Manchin has a history of this kinda stuff, so no surprise there. Apparently, the president has no power.

[Walleye]

8. So what's the solution? Threats and tough talk?

[WestIndianArchie]

9. Simple

Hardball on these two across the board. Two assholes are stopping progress for 300 million Americans.

[Walleye]

10. OK hardball. Not sure what that means in practice

[WestIndianArchie]

11. Ok

Let's move on from this, you obviously have no interest in an open discussion.


Have a great weekend!

[Walleye]

12. You have a good weekend too. But I would really like to know what we can do about this

[Bettie]

13. And that's the really frustrating part

they pretend that they plan to negotiate, but they aren't actually doing that.

It would be less frustrating if they just said: we won't vote for anything now that we got what we wanted. We'd know where we stand.

[Walleye]

14. Yes that's my point, you put a little more concisely, thank you

[walkingman]

2. They know that most people don't have a GD clue who they are voting for

every year - unlike those of us on DU. Most people, if they vote, are simply choosing a party and do not even know anything about the person and have no desire to try and find out. It is rather sad.

[doc03]

5. Morning Joe today these bills will

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do nothing to prevent Republicans from doing what they planned with the EV. Sure, it will help insure people's right to vote. But will do absolutely nothing to prevent the Republicans from running their "Green Bay Sweep" again.

[Vinca]

3. Me either. I suspect both are being led by $$$$$$$$$ in some shape or form.

They certainly aren't being led by common sense and what's right to do. They both allowed a "carve out" so the US wouldn't default on its debts, but they refuse the same for our most fundamental right. It's really hard to wrap your head around. Why do they bother with the "I'm a Democrat" charade?