Are you as discouraged as I am?

[olegramps]

I watch the Republicans' solidarity and then see nothing but confusion in my Party. It appears that we are self-destructive and unable to provide a solid front. History may not be kind to the Republicans for their obstruction and opposition to voting rights, but I don't live ten, fifty or a hundred years from now, but now. The reality is that the Republican Party has been taken over by fascists and there isn't a damn thing that we can do about it. Where is the nation headed when every Republican Senator is voting against the right to cast a vote and even legislation that provides them with the right to throw out your vote and they are being supported by some of our own party members in our nation that supposed to be the prime example of a democracy?

Is this the way it ends? Is this how nations die? I don't know; but I don't see a rosy future at the present time. My parents were solid FDR Democrats and very involved in party politics their entire lives. When Eisenhower was elected they sent congratulatory telegrams to the White House. I never heard any derogatory comments about the president in my home or among any our acquaintances. They may have disagreed with some policies, but they were never vindictive. We were expected to honor the president and the office that he held regardless of party affiliation.

[GoCubsGo]

1. No. They want us to be discouraged.

I refuse to give them that.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

3. Exactly.

We went through a Civil War, where many thousands were killed; we'll get through this too.

[GoCubsGo]

5. Yep.

I'm not "demoralized." I"m mad as hell.

[panader0]

11. What you said. I'm not discouraged, demoralized or disillusioned.

So it's not going to be easy. Okay, we need to be mad enough to get every registered
Democrat to the polls. We need to navigate the new rules set by those who are trying
to supress the vote. It's time to downshift and work harder. It's not over if the voting bill does
not pass.

[secondwind]

2. I don't see confusion.

I see a lot of obstruction, though. That is demoralizing folks. DON’T ever give up!!!!

NEVER.

[Lovie777]

4. No, it makes me want to do more . . ..

FDR had to fight his own party as well. It took some time. And now he is considered one of the great Presidents.

[Sherman A1]

6. Not discouraged but,

Neither am I encouraged.

[hamsterjill]

23. I'm sorry. What???

Can we just leave it at “nasty” people? Or shall I start listing the Republican assholes who are not Anglo?

[walkingman]

26. All you have to do is look at history and it is quite easy to see what

race has caused the worst misery on this planet. This whole fiasco we are experiencing is being supported and run by a party that is about 90% Anglo. They are in terror that their power, their culture, and their influence is being threatened. Poor white people.....they are so mistreated and villainized.

[hamsterjill]

27. Okay.

Thanks for thinking that I’m a horrible person just because I was born Anglo. Newsflash: I’m not.

I believe that painting with such a broad brush really creates anger. But that’s my opinion. I’m free to have that opinion and you’re free to disagree.

I refuse to be defined by history. I’m an individual responsible and accountable for my actions. I’m not responsible for history.

Wish you well but we obviously we don’t see eye to eye on this issue so it’s futile to discuss further.

[walkingman]

28. I'm Anglo - I understand your sentiments - but I also accept reality.

[hamsterjill]

31. I accept reality, as well.

The reality that among all peoples, there are good ones and bad ones.

I respect your right to your opinion. Have a great weekend. Stay safe and have peace.

[YP_Yooper]

37. If you really did look at history, Ghengis Khan (just his time, and not including the entire race)

killed more people in the most brutal ways possible.

Almost 10-20% of the world's population were killed, and 0.5% of the world's population is directly related to him raping untold woman and children.

hyperbole is hardly an argument

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[sop]

8. The more these fascists try to discourage voting, the more encouraged I am to cast a vote.

I suspect millions of others feel the same way.

[PXR-5]

9. Well yes, but

we must remember they are a bunch of bootlickers and we are a big tent party.

So it's that old "divide and conquer" that they are using against us.

Running the Democrat Party is like herding cats; moderates, liberals, progressives and Bernie Bros, we must stick together.

[gab13by13]

13. well said,

by the way the Bernie Bros was Russian propaganda. The leader of that lives in Russia today.

[Doodley]

10. Our side lets the lies, misinformation and conspiracy fester.

We don't seem to have a strategy to at least try to convince people of basic facts or to make the case that they have been misinformed. It has been said a million times, but we take a butter knife to a gunfight.

[YP_Yooper]

17. We need to fight that with facts, not more misinformation

Arguments during the SCOTUS mandate hearing demonstrated this. Misinformation on the right can't be countered by misinformation from the left. It makes everyone look like fools.

[Doodley]

36. Agree absolutely YP.

[betsuni]

30. What strategy would convince people of basic facts?

[Doodley]

35. First of all, give a huge budget to educate the people. Then produce a series of

videos in language and images that a six-year-old would understand. Each day Biden hold a press conference with a moments silence for those who have died of covid and state estimates of the numbers of vaccinated vs unvaccinated. Attack those who are anti-mask and anti-vaccine for being reckless with other people's lives and call out those lawmakers and media outlets who have used misinformation in a way that has led to more hospitalizations, deaths and damage to the economy. How's that for starters? What I am not seeing is any effort whatsoever to fight back against the Republican BS.

[Claustrum]

14. Stop rewriting history

Trump had 53 senate votes and he didn’t get ACA killed as he famously campaigned against with McCain’s memorable thumb down. So they weren’t as united as you said.

I get it that it’s disappointing not to get everything we wanted and Biden campaigned for. But we only have 50 senate votes. We did get an infrastructure bill passed. Stop selling us short or else you fall into republican’s trap of getting discouraged yourself and other to vote democratic.

The lesson is that we need more senate seats, not that our party can’t function.

[YP_Yooper]

15. Agreed!

...and what if the Repubs got rid of the filibuster to put the death nail to ACA?

[Claustrum]

20. Sometimes, I wish we are more like republicans

The republicans I know all believe Trump is the best thing and they act as if the failure of killing ACA didn’t happen. As shown by OP and some other in this thread, it works. People think republicans are all united when the fact is they didn’t.

I wish we would be more like them, go out and sell how good the infrastructure bill is and how it is helping everyone. Then convince people that we need more senate seats so we can pass the failed BBB bill too.

Instead, we see posts like these……

[YP_Yooper]

21. The Repubs I know here in Western PA

generally don't like Trump, but keep their mouths closed for fear of being "the other" by political loud mouths and social media bullies.
Much like the pro-choice people who keep quiet and vote for Repubs.

There are a lot of good, hard working votes out there if we reach out.

[LuckyCharms]

16. Yes, but for a very specific reason.

I couldn't care less about the former guy, his family, his cronies, and the republican politicians. Fuck 'em. They are nothing to me, they are not worth the energy it takes to hate them. I know they will get what they have coming to them. I will do whatever I can do to see them defeated, other than that, I try not to dwell on them too much. I trust our justice system to handle them. And if they are not taken care of, then well, they are going to turn to dust just like we all are.

What I do dwell on, however, is the fact that I had no idea that approximately 30% of my fellow Americans were so fucked in the head. People I know and talk to have lost their fucking minds. I view them as weak and feeble minded. We have too many dumb fucks in this country who cannot function without a daddy figure. Too many who use religion as a crutch to express warped ideas. THEY are the ones who have possibly ruined this country for good because they felt emboldened to crawl out from under their rocks. Asshole politicians come and go, but these smooth brained fuckers raise their kids to be just like them, and this makes for a tumultuous state of being, when there is absolutely no reason for it.

So fuck these people with molten glass. Fuck 'em sideways. Fuck these idiots who call themselves "patriots" when they would not recognize patriotism if it walked up to them, looked them in the eye, and then pissed on their shoes. Fuck these people who think that "doing research" involves reading some shit on Facebook.

It's gotten to the point where I take great pleasure in mocking these assholes and verbally slapping the dog shit out of them.

[Busterscruggs]

18. D is for Democrat

Not:
Discouraged
Disorder
Dystopia
Defeated

We are democrats and we are going to vote Democratic and we are going to be at the top of a grand blue wave the next election cycle.we have the history, we have the people we have the votes

[Beachnutt]

19. We must push forward

and GET OUT THE VOTE

[Septua]

32. Yeah, if you can't beat 'em with the law...

..just out vote 'em. That's what happened in 2020. Admittedly, the additional measures that allowed more people to vote was a factor but the new 'suppression' laws will affect Republicans as well as Democrats. There have been theories that the suppression stuff will backfire on the Pugs. And I'm sure the Dem strategists and campaign people will be very enthusiastic in getting people registered and to the polls.

As someone else said, I'm not discouraged, just pissed.

The most disconcerting possibility is the state legislatures taking over the election process and having the authority to ignore the vote count, in which case, out-voting is not an option.

[Septua]

33. Donate nationwide...

I think I will donate to Senate campaigns in other states...

[sarisataka]

24. Is there a Presidential election this year?

What election will be overturned this year that involves electors?

[sarisataka]

25. No.

[olegramps]

29. I thank each and every one who responded to my post.

Perhaps a better word for my state of mind is not discouraged, but disappointed with a large segment of our citizens. It is difficult to accept that so many of my neighbors are embracing concepts that are diametrically opposed to the very Constitution that I was raised to respect. A nation that many of my relatives who gave their life. A nation that I raised my and hand and swore to protect with my enlistment in the US Army. My heart breaks when each of my fellow soldiers is laid to rest as the nation whose motto is: Out of Many One, is torn to shreds by vicious demagogues whose only concern is their hold on power. The echo of Taps has become a message that leaves me feeling desperate for sign of hope. I can assure you that many of my fellow service members have the same feeling. I am grateful that so many are determined to not lose faith.

[Septua]

34. "..disappointed with a large segment of our citizens."

I've always been disappointed with a large segment of the citizens... Fortunately, I'm an antithesis of Trump.