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Insurrection Act. "
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The group's planning "was about their fanciful idea that ... Trump was going to activate them as a militia under the insurrection act," says his attorney Jon Moseley.
JustAnotherGen
(31,816 posts)They were rubbing shoulders with Roger Stone - and that came from the top.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,816 posts)And next level up is MF45.
These 'oath keepers' - only takes one to flip.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)And this is why none of these indicted fools will get off, the best they could do now is reduce their sentences.
erronis
(15,241 posts)Keep on going until you can nail the bastards.
Lonestarblue
(9,979 posts)Especially the night before. If he needs regular security, wouldnt he have the people he hired around him?
Arazi
(6,829 posts)dchill
(38,474 posts)DBoon
(22,362 posts)as person security for Hitler
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,956 posts)This little bon vivant POS should have been behind bars years ago.
TheBlackAdder
(28,186 posts).
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captain queeg
(10,181 posts)What if the ass hole had marched with the insurrectionists? It would have gotten much bloodier.
wnylib
(21,433 posts)He knew how violent it was going to get. Preferred to watch it from a safe distance on TV.
tanyev
(42,552 posts)then golf cart to the Capitol and strut around like a peacock.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)NonPC
(302 posts)He'd take a golf cart...
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Brannon? Stone? Kerik? Ghouliani?
They got that from someone close to Trump
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)he was always talking about the "Shock Troops" that were standing by.
Trump had no authority to declare such a rag-tag organization to be a militia. He was already the CiC of the world's largest "militia."
NonPC
(302 posts)...if the US Military commanders balked at his orders or wouldn't do what he needed. A group of fanatics that you could count on to wage a short, but bloody fight.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)leftieNanner
(15,083 posts)She asks pointed follow-up questions and doesn't let the guy spin it into "training in Florida".
LuckyCharms
(17,425 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)He was such a loon that Christine "I'm not a witch" O'Donnell kicked him off her failed Senate Campaign.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Basically, he just admitted that his client broke the law. Either the lawyer is an idiot or Rhodes is going to flip on Trump and his top toadies. I suspect the latter.
C_U_L8R
(45,000 posts)Seems your 'fantasizing' clients will land in prison for sedition
PortTack
(32,757 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)It in their head. That is the next step find the people who communicated with these groups. And it will be people who said if you do this trump will do this for you. Those are the people who probably are staying up worrying at night.
lpbk2713
(42,755 posts)He would have no problem with lying to a few thousand.
Walleye
(31,016 posts)I think thats kind of admitting that they were committing intentional insurrection. And that amounts to a seditious conspiracy.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)tRump & his henchmen. He is a master at keeping himself at arms length while he gets someone else to do his dirty work. These eager beavers were itching to get their guns and gallop up to Capitol Hill especially with the certainty that tRump would take care of them. Cant wait to see who dangled that carrot to get them to go along with the big lie.
Too late they discovered what countless others have found out he had no intention of offering pardons or any other help. He uses, abuses and leaves his dummies behind. Theyll take the fall unless they wake up ready to flip. Start singing like canaries in order to save their mangy necks.
I cant wait to see them scared and trembling trying to figure a way out of the mess they got ensnared to join. Gonna be a good day when they have to tell what they know. Pop some corn and pass around the cold beverages. Its gonna be must see tv for sure. 😂😂😂
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)and the plan was to make the overthrow look spontaneous and populist, a la Budapest and the demonstrators marching on the Kremlin in Moscow on January 20, 1991.
The crowd was brought there as a cover for the coup. The Oath Keepers were part of the coup plot, their goal has been the overthrow since day one when they started as a violent reaction to a black president.
Link to tweet
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)I sincerely hope the Oaf Keeper doesn't change representation because this case is going to be a bloodbath.
ck4829
(35,068 posts)thought Obama would go dictator and they were keen on saying that they would disobey any orders of that nature.
Flash forward to 2021, where they would go on to embrace the idea of being government brownshirts.
"If you want to find out what a man is to the bottom, give him power."
-Robert Ingersoll
The Oath Keepers FAILED that test, utterly.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)They claimed to be Christian (of course) and the had meetings about how important it was for them to be the head of their households. They would have workshops in different cities.
I remember my wife and I laughing about them because they were just another extremist group trying to sound reasonable. They all try. But if you listen long enough, the crazy comes pouring out.
struggle4progress
(118,281 posts)when I began trying to kill everybody who disagreed with me: surely my good intentions should count for something!"
orangecrush
(19,544 posts)You do have a way with words.
Harker
(14,015 posts)Or Rudy.
Brilliant.
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)Even if you are stupid enough to take in hook. line and sinker the misinformation being spoon fed to you. Being a sucker carries consequences.
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,804 posts)Well hell, we ALL have those.
Go on, get outta here, you scamps!
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)"I'm a delusional idiot and didn't know any better" isn't a defence, as far as I know.
Swede
(33,235 posts)Link to tweet
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barbtries
(28,788 posts)"we can't think for ourselves and worship trump, so we're not guilty"?
i have to believe that they made that up in their heads and never heard it from trump himself. he's too wily for that
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)...sure seems like a winner to me.
I looked up that 2010 case, it wasn't very solid, they were just gun nutters and they had an FBI guy embedded in them (let's be real 90% of these idiots probably have an FBI guy embedded in their groups which is what makes it so funny). They talked about overthrowing the government but never actually did anything. It was just ranting fantasies of rambling militia assholes. They did get charged with Federal arms violations because they had all sorts of heavy weapons and maybe they would've done some stupid shit later, but taking their guns away seems to have neutered them.
Here's a great article on that 2010 case and it makes the case for charging the insurrectionists (back in Feb of 2021), kinda prophetic: https://www.lawfareblog.com/last-time-justice-department-prosecuted-seditious-conspiracy-case
Ponietz
(2,963 posts)during the debate telling the so-called Proud Boys to stand back and stand by. What the fuck else was a January 6th rally for than to activate them?
dchill
(38,474 posts)...you're not going to have a country anymore."
orangecrush
(19,544 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,417 posts)He didn't dream it up out of whole cloth.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,833 posts)monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)orangecrush
(19,544 posts)I hope the committee is ahead of Trump.
As in before the mid terms.
Otherwise, we will no longer recognize our government.
GaYellowDawg
(4,446 posts)I've really respected her work.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)I wonder how much tax evasion has happened?
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Al Capone 'em.
erronis
(15,241 posts)Notice that he had to read some info from his phone during the interview?
Waiting to swig from the bottle of booze as soon as he could turn off his camera?
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Will destroy this country.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)Defense strategy?
In front of a jury it might work.
Remember the kid who was too rich to know better or the cop who killed a mayor and a respected supervisor because he ate too many twinkies?
rockfordfile
(8,702 posts)FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)We should act decisively.
captain queeg
(10,181 posts)Just like the slobfather. If you arent rich or connected or famous he couldnt care less. That murdering war criminal he pardoned was a bone for all the anti-Muslims.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Emile
(22,699 posts)Some would say he orchestrated the traitorous overthrow of our government and a few would say he activated the militia.
librechik
(30,674 posts)with violence? Huh. This almost makes them seem self aware. Which, as sociopaths, they are not. They shouldn't be surprised about the sedition charges. And we should arrest the sherbet monkey ASAP