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Fri Jan 14, 2022, 01:54 PM

Oath Keeper attorney says they believed "Trump was going to activate them as a militia under the

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Insurrection Act. "



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The DOJ charged the Oath Keepers leader, Stewart Rhodes, with 'seditious conspiracy' related to Jan. 6 riot.

The group's planning "was about their fanciful idea that ... Trump was going to activate them as a militia under the insurrection act," says his attorney Jon Moseley.


Stewart Rhodes, 1/4/21: “We have men already stationed outside DC as a nuclear option in case they attempt to remove the President illegally, we will stop it. We will be inside DC, we will also be on the outside of DC, armed, prepared to go in if the president calls us.”

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Reply Oath Keeper attorney says they believed "Trump was going to activate them as a militia under the (Original post)
tblue37 Jan 14 OP
JustAnotherGen Jan 14 #1
L. Coyote Jan 14 #20
JustAnotherGen Jan 14 #22
L. Coyote Jan 14 #29
erronis Jan 14 #48
Lonestarblue Jan 14 #31
Arazi Jan 14 #33
dchill Jan 14 #51
DBoon Saturday #64
Prof. Toru Tanaka Jan 14 #42
TheBlackAdder Jan 14 #27
captain queeg Jan 14 #2
wnylib Jan 14 #21
tanyev Jan 14 #50
monkeyman1 Jan 14 #36
NonPC Jan 14 #44
Pachamama Jan 14 #3
MineralMan Jan 14 #6
NonPC Jan 14 #46
Pachamama Saturday #63
Pachamama Saturday #62
leftieNanner Jan 14 #4
LuckyCharms Saturday #60
Effete Snob Jan 14 #5
MineralMan Jan 14 #7
C_U_L8R Jan 14 #8
PortTack Jan 14 #10
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 14 #11
lpbk2713 Jan 14 #9
Walleye Jan 14 #12
Grammy23 Jan 14 #13
L. Coyote Jan 14 #34
tishaLA Jan 14 #14
ck4829 Jan 14 #15
Buckeyeblue Saturday #61
struggle4progress Jan 14 #16
orangecrush Jan 14 #41
Harker Jan 14 #17
Kaleva Jan 14 #18
DallasNE Jan 14 #19
The Unmitigated Gall Jan 14 #23
BobTheSubgenius Jan 14 #24
Swede Jan 14 #25
barbtries Jan 14 #26
joshcryer Jan 14 #28
Ponietz Jan 14 #30
dchill Jan 14 #35
orangecrush Jan 14 #40
Joinfortmill Jan 14 #32
Gidney N Cloyd Jan 14 #37
monkeyman1 Jan 14 #38
orangecrush Jan 14 #39
GaYellowDawg Jan 14 #43
L. Coyote Jan 14 #45
Dark n Stormy Knight Saturday #56
erronis Jan 14 #47
UCmeNdc Jan 14 #49
bluecollar2 Jan 14 #52
rockfordfile Jan 14 #53
FreepFryer Jan 14 #54
captain queeg Jan 14 #55
Progressive Jones Saturday #57
uponit7771 Saturday #59
Emile Saturday #58
librechik Saturday #65

Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 01:56 PM

1. They didn't pull it out of their asses

They were rubbing shoulders with Roger Stone - and that came from the top.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:31 PM

20. Plenty of photos.

Isn't this the tent #FailedCoupGuy used the next day?





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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #20)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:35 PM

22. Yep

And next level up is MF45.

These 'oath keepers' - only takes one to flip.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #22)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:55 PM

29. One flipped almost right after Jan. 6, that's how we got here.

And this is why none of these indicted fools will get off, the best they could do now is reduce their sentences.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #22)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:56 PM

48. Next level up is Thiel, Murdoch, Koch, Putin

Keep on going until you can nail the bastards.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #20)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:59 PM

31. I've never understood why Roger Stone needed the security provided by the Oath Keepers.

Especially the night before. If he needs regular security, wouldn’t he have the people he hired around him?

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #31)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:03 PM

33. He doesn't/didn't. It's all an ego power trip

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Response to Arazi (Reply #33)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:28 PM

51. Yeah, well, he could be paranoid. I would be.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #31)

Sat Jan 15, 2022, 12:13 PM

64. That's how the Schutzstaffel started

as person security for Hitler

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #20)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:43 PM

42. I have been wanting to see Stone get prison for years.


This little bon vivant POS should have been behind bars years ago.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:40 PM

27. I Believe. . .

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 01:57 PM

2. I hope they all realize trump was never going to stick his neck out for them.

What if the ass hole had marched with the insurrectionists? It would have gotten much bloodier.

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Response to captain queeg (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:33 PM

21. No way was tfg going to march with them.

He knew how violent it was going to get. Preferred to watch it from a safe distance on TV.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:26 PM

50. Yep. Watching and waiting for his Very Fine People to get control,

then golf cart to the Capitol and strut around like a peacock.

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Response to captain queeg (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:28 PM

36. plus the fat pos can't walk that far !! come on !!

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Response to monkeyman1 (Reply #36)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:49 PM

44. Bone Spurs wouldn't walk

He'd take a golf cart...

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 01:58 PM

3. Guess that was part of the "Plan" that had been communicated to them...

Brannon? Stone? Kerik? Ghouliani?

They got that from someone close to Trump

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 02:11 PM

6. I think you mean Bannon. Anyhow,

he was always talking about the "Shock Troops" that were standing by.

Trump had no authority to declare such a rag-tag organization to be a militia. He was already the CiC of the world's largest "militia."

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:52 PM

46. They Were Back Up

...if the US Military commanders balked at his orders or wouldn't do what he needed. A group of fanatics that you could count on to wage a short, but bloody fight.

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Response to NonPC (Reply #46)

Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:59 AM

63. Trumps Bezerkers

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 15, 2022, 11:58 AM

62. Apple spell check re-wrote the word as I typed

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 01:58 PM

4. Love her!

She asks pointed follow-up questions and doesn't let the guy spin it into "training in Florida".

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:30 AM

60. Agree. She is among the best journalists out there currently.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 01:59 PM

5. Oh, no, not Moseley


He was such a loon that Christine "I'm not a witch" O'Donnell kicked him off her failed Senate Campaign.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 02:16 PM

7. Well, if he's Rhodes' attorney, he's talking way out of turn.

Basically, he just admitted that his client broke the law. Either the lawyer is an idiot or Rhodes is going to flip on Trump and his top toadies. I suspect the latter.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 02:16 PM

8. Then show where Trump told them that, Mister Attorney

Seems your 'fantasizing' clients will land in prison for sedition

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 02:43 PM

10. Agree! Bring the receipts cause ya know mr. attorney that's what the judge is going to say!

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 02:55 PM

11. Doubt FG literally told them that. But someone put

It in their head. That is the next step find the people who communicated with these groups. And it will be people who said if you do this trump will do this for you. Those are the people who probably are staying up worrying at night.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 02:19 PM

9. Trump consistently lied to 300 Milion people.



He would have no problem with lying to a few thousand.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 02:56 PM

12. So wait, now they're saying it was an insurrection? They were waiting for the insurrection act.

I think that’s kind of admitting that they were committing intentional insurrection. And that amounts to a seditious conspiracy.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:00 PM

13. It should come as no surprise that these yahoo wanna be "patriots" got taken in by


tRump & his henchmen. He is a master at keeping himself at arm’s length while he gets someone else to do his dirty work. These eager beavers were itching to get their guns and gallop up to Capitol Hill — especially with the certainty that tRump would take care of them. Can’t wait to see who dangled that carrot to get them to go along with the big lie.

Too late they discovered what countless others have found out — he had no intention of offering pardons or any other help. He uses, abuses and leaves his dummies behind. They’ll take the fall unless they wake up ready to flip. Start singing like canaries in order to save their mangy necks.

I can’t wait to see them scared and trembling trying to figure a way out of the mess they got ensnared to join. Gonna be a good day when they have to tell what they know. Pop some corn and pass around the cold beverages. It’s gonna be must see tv for sure. 😂😂😂

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Response to Grammy23 (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:11 PM

34. All the others got taken in by #FailedCoupGuy AND the Oath Keepers, the mob was a cover

and the plan was to make the overthrow look spontaneous and populist, a la Budapest and the demonstrators marching on the Kremlin in Moscow on January 20, 1991.

The crowd was brought there as a cover for the coup. The Oath Keepers were part of the coup plot, their goal has been the overthrow since day one when they started as a violent reaction to a black president.




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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:01 PM

14. Delusion isn't a defense.

I sincerely hope the Oaf Keeper doesn't change representation because this case is going to be a bloodbath.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:03 PM

15. I seem to recall that the Oath Keepers were originally formed because the right thought Obama

thought Obama would go dictator and they were keen on saying that they would disobey any orders of that nature.

Flash forward to 2021, where they would go on to embrace the idea of being government brownshirts.

"If you want to find out what a man is to the bottom, give him power."
-Robert Ingersoll
The Oath Keepers FAILED that test, utterly.

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 15, 2022, 09:45 AM

61. I thought they started as a men's group

They claimed to be Christian (of course) and the had meetings about how important it was for them to be the head of their households. They would have workshops in different cities.

I remember my wife and I laughing about them because they were just another extremist group trying to sound reasonable. They all try. But if you listen long enough, the crazy comes pouring out.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:05 PM

16. "I had a deeply-held and sincere belief I would get the Presidential Medal of Freedom

when I began trying to kill everybody who disagreed with me: surely my good intentions should count for something!"

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #16)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:42 PM

41. ...







You do have a way with words.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:09 PM

17. I'm sure that any insurrectionist would be thrilled with that sort of advocacy.

Or Rudy.

Brilliant.

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Response to Harker (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:13 PM

18. LOL!

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:27 PM

19. You Are Still Responsible For Your Own Actions

Even if you are stupid enough to take in hook. line and sinker the misinformation being spoon fed to you. Being a sucker carries consequences.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:35 PM

23. Ohhh....it was a "fanciful idea"???

Well hell, we ALL have those.

Go on, get outta here, you scamps!

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:37 PM

24. Who gives a damn what their beliefs are or were?

"I'm a delusional idiot and didn't know any better" isn't a defence, as far as I know.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:39 PM

25. Lots of folks are squirming.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:40 PM

26. is that their defense?!

"we can't think for ourselves and worship trump, so we're not guilty"?

i have to believe that they made that up in their heads and never heard it from trump himself. he's too wily for that

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:48 PM

28. The "we done fucked up and didn't know better" defense...

...sure seems like a winner to me.

I looked up that 2010 case, it wasn't very solid, they were just gun nutters and they had an FBI guy embedded in them (let's be real 90% of these idiots probably have an FBI guy embedded in their groups which is what makes it so funny). They talked about overthrowing the government but never actually did anything. It was just ranting fantasies of rambling militia assholes. They did get charged with Federal arms violations because they had all sorts of heavy weapons and maybe they would've done some stupid shit later, but taking their guns away seems to have neutered them.

Here's a great article on that 2010 case and it makes the case for charging the insurrectionists (back in Feb of 2021), kinda prophetic: https://www.lawfareblog.com/last-time-justice-department-prosecuted-seditious-conspiracy-case

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 03:55 PM

30. Boss Wordturd announced it openly

during the debate telling the so-called “Proud Boys” to “stand back and stand by”. What the fuck else was a January 6th rally for than to activate them?

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Response to Ponietz (Reply #30)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:23 PM

35. "If you don't fight like hell, ..."

...you're not going to have a country anymore."

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Response to Ponietz (Reply #30)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:38 PM

40. Bingo

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:01 PM

32. There it is, conspiracy...

He didn't dream it up out of whole cloth.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:32 PM

37. Does this guy realize he's the DEFENSE attorney?

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:32 PM

38. now there facing a modern day NUREMBERG TRIALS! called the j-6 committee!!

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:37 PM

39. Exactly what Trump was going to do


I hope the committee is ahead of Trump.

As in before the mid terms.

Otherwise, we will no longer recognize our government.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:44 PM

43. Brianna Keiler has been pretty damn awesome

I've really respected her work.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:50 PM

45. Oath Keepers is a sole proprietorship, a business owned Stewart Rhodes.

I wonder how much tax evasion has happened?

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #45)

Sat Jan 15, 2022, 04:35 AM

56. In case the other charges don't stick,

Al Capone 'em.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:54 PM

47. Great segment. The "attorney" seems to have the same abilities as ghouliani.

Notice that he had to read some info from his phone during the interview?

Waiting to swig from the bottle of booze as soon as he could turn off his camera?

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 04:59 PM

49. Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, etc.

Will destroy this country.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:33 PM

52. So being a dumbass is now advanced as a legitimate

Defense strategy?

In front of a jury it might work.

Remember the kid who was too rich to know better or the cop who killed a mayor and a respected supervisor because he ate too many twinkies?

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:38 PM

53. I could careless what traitors "believe" just give them the death penalty.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 05:40 PM

54. Whatever is done, should be done knowing the next R president can pardon any or all.

We should act decisively.

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Response to FreepFryer (Reply #54)

Fri Jan 14, 2022, 08:06 PM

55. That's true, but whoever it is (if a rethug) he'll want to disavow these guys

Just like the slobfather. If you aren’t rich or connected or famous he couldn’t care less. That murdering war criminal he pardoned was a bone for all the anti-Muslims.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Sat Jan 15, 2022, 05:21 AM

57. LMAO ! This lawyer is going to be eaten alive by the prosecutors. They're all going to prison. nt

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Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #57)

Sat Jan 15, 2022, 08:48 AM

59. +1

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Sat Jan 15, 2022, 05:53 AM

58. I heard him say we're going to walk down to the capital and fight like hell.

Some would say he orchestrated the traitorous overthrow of our government and a few would say he activated the militia.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Sat Jan 15, 2022, 12:31 PM

65. So they were afraid soldiers would come and arrest TFG for the obvious? And were prepared

with violence? Huh. This almost makes them seem self aware. Which, as sociopaths, they are not. They shouldn't be surprised about the sedition charges. And we should arrest the sherbet monkey ASAP

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