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(15,063 posts)I used to have deep respect for Engel. His reports from the front lines in the Middle East were remarkable.
But I think you are right - he's in it for the rush.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Response to malaise (Original post)
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MontanaMama
(23,295 posts)he's on the front lines...Engel also had a big sad when President Biden pulled the US out of Afghanistan.
Kid Berwyn
(14,798 posts)malaise
(268,702 posts)could be the slogan for
the NRA
Kid Berwyn
(14,798 posts)
also can be official slogan of War, Inc.
hlthe2b
(102,129 posts)He's now like a heroine junkie in need of a fix.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)Because if you don't, you're unprofessional "analysis" is just an uneducated guess that means nothing.
hlthe2b
(102,129 posts)others expressing one with which you do not agree is noted, however.
And, yes, I have considerable knowledge of the phenomenon and outcome of so-called "adrenaline junkies."
whathehell
(29,034 posts)Can you answer that?
All I'm trying to point out, is that if a " discussion", is
be substantive, and merit respect, it must be BASED on something more than just the desire to vent ones
spleen, you know, actual KNOWLEDGE. of the person, and/or the situation?
Otherwise, one's inot "discussing", one is just running their mouth..
hlthe2b
(102,129 posts)Rude as hell. Your-- as YOU yourself term it-- "running your mouth"--not worth my time. Welcome to ignore.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)It seems you can't explain the accusation, so instead, you're accusing me of something else?
Asking someone to explain an accusations, be it of me, or Richard Engel, is hardly "rude," What's "rude as hell" is MAKING those accusations while being unable to back them up.
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,075 posts)Some time last year, Malcolm Nance pointed out that wealthy individuals in Afghanistan would open their fancy villas to the correspondents who were covering the situation there. Engel and his ilk had tons of time to kill, with few interesting ways to do it, so their hosts threw frequent, lavish parties. That's what Richard Engel, Martha Raddatz, and the others who screeched endlessly about the war's end were really complaining about.
malaise
(268,702 posts)These are parasites
GoCubsGo
(32,075 posts)I was going along with the conventional wisdom that they maybe they were just upset about their Afghan friends. But, when I heard that interview, the light bulb went off...
whathehell
(29,034 posts)or just those who had the nerve to voice any criticism of President Biden?
Response to whathehell (Reply #29)
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whathehell
(29,034 posts)He confided that to you?
P.S. You don't know Engel and don't know WHAT, if anything, he "misses".
Mr.Bill
(24,240 posts)When we left Afghanistan he acted like he was laid off from his job.
malaise
(268,702 posts)He was breathless thinking about a new war.
And he was laid off from the good life
Mr.Bill
(24,240 posts)we were talking about him.
Ocelot II
(115,596 posts)that he's become addicted to danger - that adrenaline rush is probably quite a high.
kairos12
(12,843 posts)Greybnk48
(10,162 posts)War is his bread and butter. I haven't forgiven him for the two to three week tantrum he threw against Biden when President Biden got us out of the 20 years long unwinnable war in Afghanistan.
I don't trust him anymore.
FakeNoose
(32,587 posts)For that reason he has been assigned to Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. because he can actually communicate with the natives without an interpreter. Also it seems to me that many of the Arabic-speaking people take kindly to him because they think he understands their problems. He responds to the danger and death because he relates to it all personally.
Yeah maybe he's become a junkie, I don't know. But he was smart to learn Arabic as a young man.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)board warrior here.
Engel has a special needs child for whom Im sure he needs the best care. Doing his job earns him money.
I dont get these threads against war correspondents. Oh he was breathless. Seriously? Im gonna bet anybodyd be breathless too if things were exploding around you nonstop.
whathehell
(29,034 posts)It's also dangerous. Choosing (or being chosen) to be one doesn't mean you "love war".
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)during the exit. Cant remember her name, but shes got ovaries of steel.
Lots of men here putting her down at the time, who i imagine would be crying like babies in her situation. Takes a lot of damn guts to do that job.
Hekate
(90,560 posts)Do these people want desk jockeys out in a minefield, unable to speak the local language, going ick eww or would they like to find out whats actually going on and why?
hlthe2b
(102,129 posts)It is a trait that propels many an Olympic athlete or others succeeding against odds. It can cause problems with perspective or excess risk to the individual, howeverincluding coping when settings change. That isnt mean, it is merely the truth.
CTyankee
(63,890 posts)willingness to jump in and cover a story that is dangerous for him. I have never found him to be objectionable. I just think we wouldn't have the whole story without people willing to do that.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,321 posts)... and there's a three-letter agency involved.
He seems to cross strange borders at will.
Tell "your friend" not to ask too many questions about Richard Engel. It's safer to ask questions about Geraldo Rivera.
malaise
(268,702 posts)Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #21)
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scarletlib
(3,410 posts)Refer to Chris Hedges book: War is a Force that Gives Us Meaning. He was a war correspondent during the Yogoslavian wars. He said you are never so alive as when so close to death. You could say it is addictive.
malaise
(268,702 posts)Engel lost me with his biased coverage of the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq
Hekate
(90,560 posts)
for long terrible years, and then could never quite readjust or get that sense of purpose back.
I didnt read the book, but a review that I recall as quite deep and moving. The title definitely stuck with me.
scarletlib
(3,410 posts)He may have been quoting someone in the book. I honestly dont remember. It also applied to himself.
myohmy2
(3,141 posts)...to Popular Bio he's worth $1.5 million which isn't much for someone in the public eye...
https://popularbio.com/richard-engel/#Richard_Engel_Net_Worth
...maybe he needs the money, the extra hazard pay a war zone brings?
...I worked 2nd shift for the shift premium and loved it...
...
tenderfoot
(8,425 posts)accomplishing absolutely nothing.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)Richard Engel has a very specialized expertise as a war correspondent. In order to cover a war effectively he has to embed himself inside of it. While doing so, in order to gain real insight into the individual perspective of the combatants and victims of a war, he loses perspective of the larger context which often supersedes the perspective of the immediate direct participants. He gains and shares what is to us often unique perspectives on war, but often he does so at the cost of the bigger picture.
That, in essence, is why civilian control of the military is such a bedrock part of the foundation of American democracy. The final decisions of war and peace can't be left in the hands of military leaders, who by necessity live with a high degree of tunnel vision. They do not, and can not, get the final word on policy. In a way it should be the same with someone like Richard Engel. His reporting can help provide otherwise hard to obtain insights, but it inherently is unbalanced. It should never stand on its own without others putting it properly in context.
malaise
(268,702 posts)Thanks
iemanja
(53,012 posts)of covering the war. It goes with the territory. Most of us wouldn't dream of doing such a job.
pwb
(11,246 posts)He took away their war.
BannonsLiver
(16,295 posts)pwb
(11,246 posts)It feels good. A P is trying to pick a war all over the world. War mongers have a sad on.