I used to see red every time someone posted about moving to Canada

[Peacetrain]

and would get on my self righteous horse and lecture about the need to stay in place to preserve our democracy.. I have gotten older and my patience with the crazies and that they will not destroy our country is starting to wane.. I am too old now.. No other country would let me immigrate.. But if my only child would tell me he had to go.. I would not try and talk him out of it.. I am exhausted by the Bannon bandits.. And he is more the source of this than anyone.. Some foreign power keeps feeding him money.. my guess it is Russia.. and he does not need Trump he will push some other weak minded person who craves being a dictator and loves to listen to others tell him how he is the only one..


But having said all that.. I am more the up to the battle .. been here before and no, I will not live to see the next head to head in 30 years or so.. but we seem to try and fly apart at the seams every 40 years or so.. I can do this one more time.. But I am not sure I want my child to have to do this again.. It is exhausting

[The Blue Flower]

1. Every descendent of an immigrant owes a debt of gratitude to this country

That's why I wouldn't think of leaving.

[PortTack]

2. If everyone, or even 50-60% of Americans had this conviction, we'd be fine

[Timewas]

3. Well

I sorta think that is a 2 way street...

[Fiendish Thingy]

4. I moved to BC in 2012 and haven't regretted a single day

My kids were under 21 at the time we applied in 2007, so they obtained visas under our sponsorship, but they both chose to stay in the US. That’s my only regret (and I think theirs as well).

There’s a reason people leave their countries of birth to come to America, just as there is a reason Americans leave the country of their birth and move to other countries (Americans immigrating to Canada doubled during the Bush years, and jumped again during the Trump years).

Fighting the good fight is honorable, but not everyone can fight forever…

[multigraincracker]

5. Every where I go, I'm still there.

That's how I look at it.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

6. Alas, it's pretty much not possible to move to Canada permanently

once over the age of 50 or so.

[Grasswire2]

7. If anyone is thinking of going to Canada, be prepared.

Thirteen months ago I filed a request for a certificate of citizenship in Canada.

Because my father was born in Canada and kept that citizenship while living out his life in U.S. on a green card, I (under 2009 Canada law) am automatically considered a citizen there. All that is required is submitting documentation of my birth, his birth, etc., to obtain proof of that citizenship.

Thirteen months later, having properly submitted all documentation, I have had ZERO response. Nothing.

I cannot track it, there is no communication at all. I only have the USPS tracking number to know it was received in Nova Scotia in proper office. No place to query, nothing.

I only know that when I applied, the waiting time was expected to be five months. Waiting time for such a transaction is now stated at eighteen months.

I wasn't intending to relocate. I just want that certificate in my back pocket, and perhaps also a Canadian passport.

So............be prepared to wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait....

I have read that currently they are prioritizing Afghani refugees. And I understand. Some of my ancestors were refugees to Canada, from war, in the early 1800s.

[Silent3]

8. The biggest thing holding me back is another country's willingness to take me...

...at my age. Even if we do pull off a win against the odds and stave off Coup 2.0 in the short term, I'm tired of living in a country with so many hateful and/or moronic idiots that we have to keep fighting hard merely to prevent the country from going to hell, with these regressive forces making it all the harder to actually make progress instead of merely hanging on by our fingernails to democracy.

This country doesn't represent who I am anymore, and makes me ashamed.

[hamsterjill]

9. I think rather than try to leave America,

We should try to move to areas where like minded people can help one another, vote as a block, and try to live out our lives with as much peace as we can muster. But where and how? The older I get, the more I realize that I don’t want to face things all alone, but I don’t know what the real answer is.