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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 02:59 PM Jan 2022

'Smoking guns all around': Conservative connects dots




In his weekend wrap-up, conservative Bulwark founder Charlie Sykes makes the case that there is more than enough proof that Donald Trump and his inner circle made a provable attempt to steal the 2020 presidential election through fraud.


https://www.rawstory.com/trump-election-fraud-2656416107/
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'Smoking guns all around': Conservative connects dots (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jan 2022 OP
And the media-supported response will be gratuitous Jan 2022 #1
And they will wrap up by saying; "We've got to move forward, not backward." The corp. paid-off RKP5637 Jan 2022 #2
And they will continue their attack that Biden admin iluvtennis Jan 2022 #10
And some still call him President Trump, and President Biden just Biden. What an outrage! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2022 #13
Yep. I call BS. n/t iluvtennis Jan 2022 #18
There are so many wacky delusional people in the population. Frankly, it is scary. And they choose RKP5637 Jan 2022 #19
Great article! Kid Berwyn Jan 2022 #3
then they used this fraud to raise money scarytomcat Jan 2022 #4
Given what we know about 2020 conspirators, who still believes #FailedCoupGuy won 2016 fairly? L. Coyote Jan 2022 #5
Didn't find 11,780 votes, instead found a grand jury & possible" jail " ! monkeyman1 Jan 2022 #7
He makes me sick!! DemUnleashed Jan 2022 #6
It's like the whole GOP just realized Trump is blocking everyone's big ambitions and money. ZonkerHarris Jan 2022 #8
As Joyce Vance discusses on Al Franken's podcast this week, Pinback Jan 2022 #9
I'm considering voting for Raffensberger in the primary just because he stood firm oldsoftie Jan 2022 #11
Interesting idea. Pinback Jan 2022 #15
It wouldn't matter whether she got her party registration switched back to D in time for the tblue37 Jan 2022 #16
Yes, switching isnt a problem. But you could even wait till after the election. oldsoftie Jan 2022 #17
I am so fucking sick of trump... Jack-o-Lantern Jan 2022 #12
Republished from the conservative (and un-referable) site "The Bulwark". Ford_Prefect Jan 2022 #14

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. And the media-supported response will be
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 03:01 PM
Jan 2022

"Why you gotta be so divisive? So the former guy tried to steal the 2020 election through fraud. But he didn't succeed, did he? So just let it go."

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
2. And they will wrap up by saying; "We've got to move forward, not backward." The corp. paid-off
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 03:05 PM
Jan 2022

media.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
19. There are so many wacky delusional people in the population. Frankly, it is scary. And they choose
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 10:53 PM
Jan 2022

to follow the BS and spread it around. More WTF's.

Kid Berwyn

(14,808 posts)
3. Great article!
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 03:09 PM
Jan 2022

Excerpt…

Jumping right into it, Sykes pointed to a CNN report that stated, "...then-President Donald Trump's allies sent fake certificates to the National Archives declaring that Trump won seven states that he actually lost," which have also been labeled forgeries.

According to the political analyst, "In other words, what we have here is attempted election fraud on a massive scale," adding, "Some perspective: If an average voter lied on their registration forms or forged an absentee ballot, they would face criminal charges and a world of legal hurt. But this case is far worse because the forged electoral certificates were coordinated, and part of a larger conspiracy to overturn the presidential election."

Writing, "...the smoking guns are littered all around us," Sykes turned to Bulwark colleague Bill Kristol who tweeted on Saturday, "The forged electoral certificates show coordination across seven states. Those fake certificates were key to the plan of the Eastman memo and to the Jeffrey Clark DOJ draft letter to Georgia. The conspiracy involved fraud and force. At the head of the conspiracy: Donald Trump."

Source: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-election-fraud-2656416107/

The lack of concern and coverage by the National press reveals their corrupt nature.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
4. then they used this fraud to raise money
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 04:28 PM
Jan 2022

This is a crime. They know they have no proof and still they repeat the lie and then ask for money

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
5. Given what we know about 2020 conspirators, who still believes #FailedCoupGuy won 2016 fairly?
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 04:54 PM
Jan 2022

With just 40,000 voters in three states voting Clinton instead, the outcome would have been reversed. How suspicious is that in the retrospective context of "I just want to find 11,780 votes"?

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
7. Didn't find 11,780 votes, instead found a grand jury & possible" jail " !
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 05:08 PM
Jan 2022

everything he touches is a possibility of jail ! need a damn dump truck to carry all the indictments!

ZonkerHarris

(24,209 posts)
8. It's like the whole GOP just realized Trump is blocking everyone's big ambitions and money.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 05:13 PM
Jan 2022

they are slow.
Not quick.
At at least they are getting it now.

Pinback

(12,152 posts)
9. As Joyce Vance discusses on Al Franken's podcast this week,
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 05:22 PM
Jan 2022

the case has got to be absolutely unassailable, with irrefutable admissible evidence (not “hearsay” testimony) — including upon appeal, all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court — to get a conviction.

On the plus side, she said, in all her years of working as a prosecutor, she never once had the luxury of a suspect admitting to a crime on tape — as in DFP’s infamous “11,780 votes” call to Georgia officials.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
11. I'm considering voting for Raffensberger in the primary just because he stood firm
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 05:35 PM
Jan 2022

You have no idea what that man has dealt with here in GA just for following the law.
I'd love to see him defeat the ass-kissers trying to put him out.

Pinback

(12,152 posts)
15. Interesting idea.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 06:58 PM
Jan 2022

That doesn’t keep you from switching your party affiliation back to D for the General, I hope. If I remember correctly there are some restrictions, but I haven’t looked into it.

Raffensperger would definitely be miles better than Hice.

And there’s the added benefit that if Brad R. wins the Rethug primary, some of the QAnon types might boycott the GE, which could increase the odds for a Dem to become SoS.

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
16. It wouldn't matter whether she got her party registration switched back to D in time for the
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 07:03 PM
Jan 2022

General election. You can vote for the Democrat even if you're registered Republican.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
17. Yes, switching isnt a problem. But you could even wait till after the election.
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 07:07 PM
Jan 2022

And you're right, the Qidiots could very well stay home in the general. Thats how they lost the Senate; 100s of thousands of Nov voters didnt show up for the runoff. Remember, Perdue won in Nov. Just didnt hit 50%. And most of those no show voters were in the solid red areas of the state. Because Lin Wood, trump & a couple others told them "why bother? Its rigged"
idiots.

Jack-o-Lantern

(966 posts)
12. I am so fucking sick of trump...
Sun Jan 16, 2022, 05:47 PM
Jan 2022

and his legions of crooks, liars, ass-kissers, seditionists, right-wing enablers, hate radio, fux tv and all things to due with that orange pile of steaming shit…I’m glad I live on the Canadian border…just in case.

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