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modrepub

(3,469 posts)
1. Economics
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 10:04 AM
Jan 2022

What's not really discussed is how the Nazi's used economic incentives to align the population with them. Seizing assets from Jews and distributing them to their followers and the German government was one way to buy a significant number of people's loyalty. And it just wasn't Jewish assets that were taken, it often was their livelihoods. Jews were eliminated from their government positions, stores and private sector jobs. These could then be offered as incentives for other Germans to support the regime.

One whole facet of the Nazi regime that is not really discussed was how they utilized the wealth, labor and positions of their Jewish population and Jewish populations in the conquered lands to fund their war effort. Without these hard assets and labor, the German war machine would have been much harder to build and maintain. Similarly, the Confederacy probably held out as long as it did living off the economic productivity it was able to garner from its enslaved population.

colorado_ufo

(5,717 posts)
5. I have a friend who was born in an internment camp in Colorado.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 11:38 AM
Jan 2022

He talked about how his family lost everything, how his uncle lost his business.

CousinIT

(9,151 posts)
3. I would add massive ignorance. Fox and other RW propaganda outfits to blame.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 10:42 AM
Jan 2022

Hitler - though he had Goebbels and his ministry of propaganda - didn't have Fox "News".

Add to that the systematic defunding of public education in the US for the past 5-7 decades, no civics being taught, etc.

And the internet right now: getting facts, actual news, research and the most important stories and journalism is blocked by paywalls. Websites promoting ignorance, extremism, propaganda and conspiracy theories remain free.

It's like the United States is pouring acid on its own Republic/on itself.

GB_RN

(2,267 posts)
6. Reichwing Hate Radio...
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 11:50 AM
Jan 2022

Is probably the biggest factor. I'd bet it reaches...or at least it did before Rush Limpballs died...a bigger audience every day than even Faux Nuz.

Now that Rush is gone, his audience has splintered, because he had no successor. Bongino and the other creep just don't have the same...whatever Nazi-factor...that Limpballs had. Maybe that's a good thing in the long run.

ancianita

(35,812 posts)
7. Absolutely. Because, even as you list what's wrong, WHO is doing it is kept hidden by design.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 11:51 AM
Jan 2022

Ignorance is as imposed upon us by those who would rule as is poverty.
Whoever does that doesn't intend to undo it or tell you who they are. It is up to us to investigate.

FOIAS FOR ALL!



keithbvadu2

(36,369 posts)
8. The holocaust deniers are neither indifferent nor apathetic.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 12:11 PM
Jan 2022

The holocaust deniers are neither indifferent nor apathetic.

They are fully engaged.

CousinIT

(9,151 posts)
11. That's the problem. One side is rabid. The other is almost asleep.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 01:32 PM
Jan 2022

Or at the very least disengaged and indifferent.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
10. Judgment at Nuremberg was fictionalized but the "bones" of the story were true.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 12:44 PM
Jan 2022

The movie, which is shown a couple times a year on TCM and I think is now on Amazon, is fictionalized, but it is centered on the last wave of trials. Not the politicians, SS officers, etc. but the judges and industrialists who were not Nazis but under the cover of "law" sentenced people they knew were innocent to the camps and took advantage of their labor, working them to death - the aristocrats, the officer class who supposedly despised Hitler but kept his army running smoothly because they were professionals but they would be there when he was gone. These people are smug that they can't be held responsible for what Hitler and the Nazis did and what they did was the law at the time. The last couple times I've seen this movie I don't see Germans any longer. I see all of us and it's frightening.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
17. This
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:34 AM
Jan 2022

There was already a long, long history of anti-semtism and violence agains the jewish population.

Response to CousinIT (Original post)

Mad_Machine76

(24,355 posts)
19. I don't believe that we should be mean-spirited towards anti-vaxxers
Tue Jan 18, 2022, 09:53 AM
Jan 2022

nor celebrate their deaths, but we should definitely be encouraging people to get vaccinated in order to control the pandemic and bring it to heel. Letting it just spread unchecked and give it the opportunity to spawn more and more variants, especially ones that render the vaccines we have less and less potent, is not a good plan. I'm not sure what "legitimate, alternative points of view" you're referring to. If somebody is spreading disinformation, especially purposefully, it needs to be strenuously challenged/corrected.

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