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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow can we effectively use Qanon against the Republican Party?
I know there was an earlier semi-coordinated effort by Democrats to call Marjorie Taylor Greene the poster child of the current Republican Party, with pointed references to some of her prior Qanon supporting statements. I think the problem with that was that it ended up putting the focus more on Marjorie Taylor Greene than on Qanon. She got added publicity and used that as a platform to make more incendiary anti-Democratic attacks (and raise millions while doing so.) Those attacks (calls for "Second Amendment solutions" and claims that Democrats want to destroy America) should have disqualified her as a legitimate political figure, but in this era of hyper division they fell far short of doing so.
Meanwhile the actual substance of the Qanon belief systems have mostly gotten the late night talk show comedy treatment. Waiting for JFK Jr. to reappear has replaced rumored Elvis appearances as grist for the comic mill. Except it isn't really funny. In fact it should be terrifying. "Jewish Space Lasers" got treated as a punch line rather than blatant antisemitism, but Qanon is no joke. Tens of millions of Americans believe wild Qanon "conspiracy theories", with extremely dangerous content: Top Democrats drink the blood of children, government scientists induce genocide with fake vaccines to treat non-existent Covid etc. It is mass psychosis.
Fortunately though, tens of millions of Americans is still a far cry from a majority of our populous. Most Americans don't take Qanon seriously. Even most Republican and Republican leaning voters don't take Qanon seriously. Some might be influenced by some of the less extreme versions of Qanon conspiracy theories currently circulating on the Right, but they would still cringe at being associated with the full blown wild Qanon belief system. Right now right wing Republican office holders, and candidates for office, get to have their cake and eat it too. They can court and count on support from the Qanon "movement" without being directly identified with it. They almost never get pinned down. Is Qanon a friend or foe to America? Do they embrace or condemn its core messages? Are they themselves Qanon believers, and if not, do they think it essentially harmless when Qanon theories proliferate, or should they be vigorously opposed and debunked?
Where do Republicans stand on Qanon? Why, to this day, are most Americans still in the dark about the virulent form of insanity that Qanon spreads?
Walleye
(30,977 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)FakeNoose
(32,579 posts)I don't know how to do that, but I think it would eventually turn his base against him. Once the base hates him, the Repuke politicians would realize he's nothing to fear anymore.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)But were I to waver in that conviction, damn a strong case could be made that his name is Donald T. Trump. Seriously, it's uncanny.
orangecrush
(19,409 posts)Emile
(22,480 posts)Shouldn't be that hard.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)...except that it hasn't been effectively done so far, outside of leftish circles, on any kind of persistent basis.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)How to convince them of their own free will to work to our benefit? Now that the Republicans are trying to destroy the government, we're THE "the establishment," they believe they have to destroy. They and just about every other malcontent, extremist and nutcase right AND left these days.
orangecrush
(19,409 posts)You want to dismantle it.
"Yet some question how resilient the QAnon movement would be if Q disappeared and its core enablers and influencers lost traction on social mediaQs noticeable silence since Joe Bidens electoral victory has led to both a rise in violent rhetoric and fragmentation between hardcore QAnon believers and those losing the faith."
https://www.csis.org/blogs/examining-extremism/examining-extremism-qanon
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)But, as a historical precedent, it took an ideological "civil war" among American Conservatives to help blunt the influence of the John Birch Society in the late 50's early 60's. Almost no Republicans are speaking out against Qanon now, in large part because no one is forcing them to address it.
orangecrush
(19,409 posts)Trump losing the election drove a wedge.
For a lot of them, the bubble popped.
Unfortunately, it made the true believers more dangerous.
These are the ones who showed up in DC on January 6.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)Except in the early 60's the more mainstream conservative Republicans consolidated control inside of their party's apparatus, and so far now the relative extremists clearly retain the upper hand inside the party.
Amishman
(5,554 posts)Same with 1/6, people want to move on and have. The typical voter doesn't carte about Q, 1/6, or Trump anymore. They live in the moment, which is why inflation and shortages is hurting us so significantly right now. They don't care how we got here, they care what is causing them pain today and what is being done to fix it right now. Same reason so many won't prioritize climate change, its too gradual for their narrow focus.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)Couple that with baked in tribal loyalties and only a small minority of voters seem movable on issues that aren't impacting them immediately. But even shifts involving just small percentages of voters can swing the results in swing states and districts. In 2020 the "Never Trumpers" in groups like The Lincoln Project were never able to swing the needle very far with their outreach to Republican minded voters who were not totally enamored with Trump, but in places they nudged it, and that nudge may have been a crucial part of Biden winning some very close State elections.
We need to use all the openings we can get to reach whatever voters we can. In some cases disgust with the antics of many Republicans might at least keep some voters home who would otherwise have voted against us.