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Stinky The Clown

(67,750 posts)
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:55 PM Jan 2022

A Sense of the DU Community: What are the chances . . . . .

. . . . . we lose our democracy?

If you think it is a certainty, when do you think it will happen? Or has it already happened?

(This poll inspired by today's Senate debate.)


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0-20%
4 (18%)
20-40%
5 (23%)
40-60%
6 (27%)
60-80%
6 (27%)
80-100%
1 (5%)
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captain queeg

(10,073 posts)
1. I think if and when we lose it it'll just progressively deteriorate
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jan 2022

In some ways we already have, but I don’t think there’ll be one certain event. Although we came close January 6.

Sympthsical

(9,021 posts)
4. Define democracy
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:13 PM
Jan 2022

What people mean by "losing our democracy" is often specific to the person and their own views of things. Do you mean a lack of elections? Do you mean permanent rule by one party?

What does a loss of democracy look like?

I'd argue that corporations have already functionally hijacked our democracy, and our politicians and an election system based on money have functionally check-mated the representational republic. We'll get crumbs, but we cannot meaningfully move forward unless corporations want us to. They allow us just enough and keep us just comfortable enough so that we don't actually revolt.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
8. Democracy is not 80% of people with access and ability to vote and the other 20% "figure it out"
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:22 PM
Jan 2022

We're lower ranking on democracy index than we should be because people think the 20% "figuring it out" is ok.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
7. Lose Our Democracy means a gating part of US voting power turns into Texas, that's 80% chance ...
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 02:19 PM
Jan 2022

... looking at the laws that have been passed.

Texas is technically a dictatorship with the lowest voter access and involvement in the union, that's why the leadership there does the dumbest shit like outlaw abortion and claim Biden isn't the troops CiC there.

We don't want Texas for the rest of the country

WarGamer

(12,301 posts)
11. It can only happen if there's a Constitutional Convention or Secession...
Wed Jan 19, 2022, 03:48 PM
Jan 2022

So... doubtful. At least for the foreseeable future

The Democratic elements of our Constitutional Republic are enshrined in the Constitution.

 

Anti-Racist Hero

(28 posts)
12. Depends on what you mean by "lose"
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 07:15 PM
Jan 2022

I am good with creating mandates for most things that we need like climate change, Covid vaccination, single-payer health care, anti-racist teachings at all levels of school and industry, multi-trillion dollar reparations for Black individuals, and changing our Constitution to more reflect a 1619 start of the country with the installment of chattle slavery by white supremacists. In other words, we should NOT have to vote "for" or "against" climate change, etc., just like we should NOT have to vote "for" or "against" police brutality over BIPOC, for instance. Therefore, I'm more nuanced in how this transformation should be done. The main thing is to ensure BIPOC has primary ability to vote their needs over any other democratic function that we have.

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