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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow to know TFG knew he lost the election and has been lying all along,
1. If he had proof it was corrupted, why wouldn't he have had his lawyers provide it to a judge in 60+ courtroom lawsuits he filed and lost?
2. If he won like he claims why did he call GA officials trying to bully and threaten them to change their results?
3. If he won, by a landslide he often claims, how come not recounts and state investigations showed nothing?
4. How come Bill Barr and others in his administration publicly say it wasn't corrupted and was a fair election.
5. Why did he unleash so many criminal schemes to try to reverse results?
6. Why did he try to bully and threaten Pence, even getting a gallows built in front of the capital, which had to have been preplanned?
7. If he won by a landslide like he claims he did, why was he projecting if he lost it would be from corruption, when he had full control off the DOJ to uncover it?
8. When has he ever shown proof when he had plenty of times when speaking to his followers to do so?
9. Why did he have bogus electors from certain states try to switch who won?
10. Why did he schedule his Jan 6th rally at the same time the Congress was meeting, and he sent his followers to stop the official proceedings, if he knew and had proof he won?
He knows he's lying , and is using this to generate money, and doubt to incite his followers with it for power against others in the GOP, and to shake down the RNC for money. He has done this before by making false claims, remember how he claimed Obama wasn't born here, and he claimed his investigators were finding all kinds of stuff, he claimed. Now he's got others in the GOP legislating ways to control future election results corruptly. He knows he lost, and he knows he's lying. That's what a con artist does, lies, a lot.
rampartc
(5,403 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,588 posts)It has more than 5 recommendations.
5 is all you need, and it has 8.
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)I didnt know about that rule. Thanks for explaining!
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,588 posts)malaise
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malaise
(268,930 posts)It's a great OP
Last night I heard someone suggesting that if he is so delusional that he has convinced himself that he won, then telling the Georgia AG to find him those 11,000+ votes might not have been intentional. I did laugh. It must be a lunatic's defense.
elias7
(3,997 posts)Obama called his bluff by producing the BC but of course it didnt matter, because he just doubled down because it never was about the truth, it was about keeping the false narrative alive as long as possible. Total con artist, doesnt know when to pack it up and leave town
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,202 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)Which doesn't exist. If it did, and it contained everything Trump's toady, Rudy, claims it does, why didn't he turn it right over to Bill Barr? It would have helped Trump's campaign immensely.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)His internals were very BAD NEWS for him, all day, every day.
Which is why he started to say if he lost
the election was rigged.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)And his followers were being victimized. Fascist do this often .
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)Humans, by nature, are not rational beings.
kwijybo
(228 posts)I thought by now it was obvious.
Seriously, he was claiming that unless he won, the election was rigged. He started claiming this in the 2016 election, if you will recall, and just never stopped, even after it rolled over into the next election. I fully expect he will claim he won the 2024 election, whether he runs or not.
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)Oh well, same difference...
Botany
(70,490 posts)... he was told as much in May or June of 2020 and that is the reasons he ripped out
Jackie Kennedy's Rose Garden. He is and was such a prick that he couldn't take losing
and it hurt his ego to see Jackie's Rose Garden and that she is still loved and respected
all these years later so knowing he was going to lose he ripped it out and in doing so he
killed rose bushes that the grounds crew had kept going in some case > 100 years.
It wasn't that the great designer Melania (Putin's Handler for TFG) had a vision to redo
it it was because he knew he was going to lose.
Manfred Arcane
(59 posts)the elections being "rigged" since at least 2012 when Romney lost to Obama. Romney, of course, did not make any claims of fraud (say what you will about Romney, but you've gotta give him this), but Trump was out there calling the results a "total sham." Trump supporters will claim that this just goes to prove how prescient Trump is, but I think it is more likely that he was already setting up this fraud narrative in anticipation of his run in 2016.
Here is an article from 2012 discussing that Trump said after Romney's loss to Obama:
Donald Trump calls election a 'total sham,' advocates 'revolution'
Here's a sample of Trump's Twitter postings Tuesday night:
We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012
Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us.
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012
This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012
Our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble...like never before.
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012
The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012
Hopefully the House of Representatives can hold our country together for four more years...stay strong and never give up!
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012
House of Representatives shouldn't give anything to Obama unless he terminates Obamacare.
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2012
Folks, look at those tweets -- this has all been in the works since at least 2012.
gab13by13
(21,304 posts)which is what the Fulton county DA must prove, intent. The bar is higher in a criminal trial.
Remember also, the next day after his call Trump Tweeted about it for everyone to see. If Trump believed his call was illegal why would he Tweet about it? He either did for cover or he did it because he truly is delusional.
This is not an easy cut and dried case folks. The DA is going to need corroborating evidence to show that Trump knew he lost the election in Georgia, I heard this also from 2 former judges.
Walleye
(31,008 posts)Remember, shoot somebody on fifth Avenue?He could just be right
ecstatic
(32,685 posts)ecstatic
(32,685 posts)By then it was apparent to him that all his efforts to steal and disrupt the election had failed, so he immediately pivoted to plan C (coup). The bullshit about a stolen election is just that, bullshit.