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Asking the courts to force employees from not leaving (Original Post) packman Jan 2022 OP
Try paying them more? Srkdqltr Jan 2022 #1
Wage Slaves tired of the BS! Emile Jan 2022 #2
Doubt they have non-compete clauses in contracts JT45242 Jan 2022 #3
ThedaCare files lawsuit to keep employees from leaving for Ascension Klaralven Jan 2022 #4
Employment at will Freddie Jan 2022 #5
They will lose. No reason why another company can't hire your employees by paying more. Shrike47 Jan 2022 #6
Exactly. And Karma13612 Jan 2022 #7

JT45242

(2,262 posts)
3. Doubt they have non-compete clauses in contracts
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 11:46 AM
Jan 2022

A lot of companies will put non-compete clauses into contracts .. I doubt those are there for nurses or other health staff.

I know that most of the people high up in my company have 6-12 month non-compete with a few named companies or industry wide in addition to all our non-disclosure agreements. But that wouldn't make sense for health care workers.

Does sound like the hospital wants to make them indentured servants.

Freddie

(9,259 posts)
5. Employment at will
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:01 PM
Jan 2022

Means the employer can fire you at any time, for any reason (except certain kinds of discrimination) and your only recourse is collecting unemployment, unless you are covered by a union contract. It also means the employee can quit any time, for any reason, and the employer has no recourse.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
6. They will lose. No reason why another company can't hire your employees by paying more.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jan 2022

Offer equal pay and benefits, or a little better, and maybe employees will choose to stay.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
7. Exactly. And
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:04 PM
Jan 2022

It can also be for reasons like staffing pressures, crazy schedules, and even policies that admin makes. These employees are intelligent people who care about their jobs, their patients and how things actually function. I’ve seen it in my years in healthcare and as part of union negotiations. Sometimes the issues are things like a bad supervisor who rules with stupidity instead of logic. Cuts corners to meet budget demands to please their boss higher up. When management causes foreseeable problems, employees get angry. And if you push them far enough, long enough, they will walk.

I worked in medical records as a medical coder. Middle management got financial $$$ bonuses if they kept their budgets below a certain $ figure for their department. Our boss purposely shorted us certain essential items to do our core job (including necessary coding books that were update every year by the AMA and other national medical publishing companies, which cost a fortune). She also never sent us to continuing education seminars, instead making us squeeze in time in our packed, overworked regular schedule to do online quickie courses. Often times, we were so busy, we could not complete the yearly hospital accreditation online courses we were required to complete. Most of us did them at home, online, on our personal time. No OT allowed.

By these measures, she came in under budget and solely benefited. “Time to go shopping and get that lovely little XXX that I’ve been just dying to get”.

Yea, I am not surprised at all if these staff walked enmasse. Sounds like management pushed them beyond their limit.

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