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SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 12:52 PM Jan 2022

Very Nice How They're Avoiding Mention Of How Meat Loaf Died

The only place that did go there is TMZ, and they’re almost always correct.

He was VERY opposed to vaccine mandates, stating support for anti-vaxxers in Australia.

He supposedly died from Covid, very soon after contracting it.

Also an outspoken supporter of TFG.

Do The Math!

Far be it from them to make known the need to be vaccinated to save future deaths. They would rather protect his image, and save the realization his death was likely very preventable.

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Very Nice How They're Avoiding Mention Of How Meat Loaf Died (Original Post) SoCalDavidS Jan 2022 OP
Meat Loaf was a Meat Head - there I said it WA-03 Democrat Jan 2022 #1
Daily Mail has that report too. nt BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #2
Must be true then. The King of Prussia Jan 2022 #51
Lol...I'm more likely to believe TMZ than the DM. nt BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #60
dammit DonCoquixote Jan 2022 #3
TMZ is often correct, but they are trigger happy unblock Jan 2022 #4
It's because it isn't officially confirmed yet xmas74 Jan 2022 #5
Correct gristy Jan 2022 #9
Would not Rebl2 Jan 2022 #16
"If I Die, I Die" SoCalDavidS Jan 2022 #6
Another hero of the "antivaxer community". Who's next? Walleye Jan 2022 #7
Ted Nugent? Please? CaptainTruth Jan 2022 #19
👍 Walleye Jan 2022 #20
yes please E. Normus Jan 2022 #25
+1000 Jilly_in_VA Jan 2022 #27
Absolutely. (nt) Paladin Jan 2022 #33
+10 nt reACTIONary Jan 2022 #34
OMG, I would pay into a go fund me for this to happen. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2022 #41
Yes, please!!! Raster Jan 2022 #45
I could believe that in a heartbeat. BComplex Jan 2022 #79
in that case we would not be losing a talented musician DBoon Jan 2022 #83
Quite a few other outlets are beginning to report this. mn9driver Jan 2022 #8
Ya know... it took a few days to get Betty White's cause of death MissMillie Jan 2022 #10
That wouldn't surprise me at all PatSeg Jan 2022 #11
"He would do anything for love louslobbs Jan 2022 #12
HAHAHA- Great post!! jovibennett Jan 2022 #21
Oh that's good! Dr. Shepper Jan 2022 #46
Meatloaf has been quite ill for some time. hamsterjill Jan 2022 #13
His best friend died this past year Sympthsical Jan 2022 #35
Yep hamsterjill Jan 2022 #50
Thou Shall Not Speak Ill of the Dead modrepub Jan 2022 #14
I follow Maude's words Jilly_in_VA Jan 2022 #15
+ llashram Jan 2022 #17
Might wake up a few ignorant types empedocles Jan 2022 #22
true, we can only hope llashram Jan 2022 #30
Bette Davis on the death of Joan Crawford. Dry wit, black humor Walleye Jan 2022 #23
I think that's an old old joke. I first heard it from Moms Mabley. Patterson Jan 2022 #42
If You Don't Have Anything Good To Say... modrepub Jan 2022 #58
To be fair, Herman Cain Awards are for the Dead aeromanKC Jan 2022 #26
Me either. Initech Jan 2022 #47
A lot of families choose to hide unvaccinated COVID deaths IronLionZion Jan 2022 #18
Yep, had a unvaccinated magaloon cousin die from covid KS Toronado Jan 2022 #36
I hate to say it but I don't have any YoshidaYui Jan 2022 #24
The only person I feel sorry for is his daughter Amanda MurrayDelph Jan 2022 #28
wow.... YoshidaYui Jan 2022 #61
Happy Birthday! Stay young. panader0 Jan 2022 #63
I noticed that Traildogbob Jan 2022 #29
Who is "they"? brooklynite Jan 2022 #31
+100 nt ... reACTIONary Jan 2022 #38
RIP. I was introduced to him through The Apprentice. ecstatic Jan 2022 #32
That incident made me think he might be on the spectrum. gldstwmn Jan 2022 #48
Meat Loaf explains his side of the blowup starting at the 34 minute mark of this ARPad95 Jan 2022 #77
thank you for sharing this. OhioBlue Jan 2022 #81
You're welcome! I enjoyed his music, too. Graduated high school in the late 1970s and he was like ARPad95 Jan 2022 #84
Never heard the attraction of Bat Out Of Hell. argyl Jan 2022 #37
yes, that was one of the most unlistenable popular albums for me LymphocyteLover Jan 2022 #40
Many Of The Songs Are... ProfessorGAC Jan 2022 #54
Music reveals so much about the creator. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2022 #55
Thank you. My recollection is he was a rightwing douche and I never cared for his music either LymphocyteLover Jan 2022 #39
I don't think there's any conspiracy to hide it. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author mahina Jan 2022 #44
He was right wing garbage. This planets a better place without him. BradBo Jan 2022 #49
I'm sorry but yours is just a shitty post in my view. hamsterjill Jan 2022 #69
Amen. nolabear Jan 2022 #78
exactly. OhioBlue Jan 2022 #82
Protect his image? He'd probably want them to alter his image. He was an ugly dude. NoMoreRepugs Jan 2022 #52
Post removed Post removed Jan 2022 #53
So what is it about people who were in rzemanfl Jan 2022 #56
Rocky Horror is Tim Curry xmas74 Jan 2022 #62
Sarandon didn't have a bit part rzemanfl Jan 2022 #66
But she didn't "make" that movie. xmas74 Jan 2022 #68
I must be one of the few people that has never seen Rocky Horror. panader0 Jan 2022 #64
I'll take your word for it. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2022 #67
I saw it when it first came out Retrograde Jan 2022 #70
Rocky Horror was quite the cult classic for years. argyl Jan 2022 #71
It's goes like this: LeftInTX Jan 2022 #72
Me either SallyHemmings Jan 2022 #74
TMZ quoted WillUSAF Jan 2022 #57
Paradise by the Dashboard Light and Bat Out of Hell PatrickforB Jan 2022 #59
Yet another patriot claims his Herman Cain Memorial Freedom Award (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Jan 2022 #65
Did Meatball have a GoFundMe page? Hassler Jan 2022 #73
Like a bat out of Wuhan he's gone, gone, gone. 48656c6c6f20 Jan 2022 #75
NY Post says drmeow Jan 2022 #76
The Magat angle was not exactly played up in the news. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2022 #80

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(52,118 posts)
4. TMZ is often correct, but they are trigger happy
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:00 PM
Jan 2022

They are quick to get the story out and they are pretty quick to pull it or correct if when it turns out wrong.

Which is fine if you know to take early reports with a grain of salt.

In this case though, I'd say Covid is a damn good guess....

xmas74

(29,671 posts)
5. It's because it isn't officially confirmed yet
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:00 PM
Jan 2022

TMZ knows how to grease palms and get this information before most nowadays. It's their bread and butter.

Others will mention it as it's confirmed.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
45. Yes, please!!!
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:40 PM
Jan 2022

Unfortunately, #TeddyboyShittypants is probably a closet vaxxer and wears a mask when no one is looking.

mn9driver

(4,419 posts)
8. Quite a few other outlets are beginning to report this.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:05 PM
Jan 2022

Looks like it is true. Most of them are still saying it is “unclear” whether he was vaccinated, although he was a pretty outspoken anti-mask, anti- lockdown figure.

MissMillie

(38,531 posts)
10. Ya know... it took a few days to get Betty White's cause of death
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jan 2022

Your suspicions could be right--I'm not saying they're not.

PatSeg

(47,267 posts)
11. That wouldn't surprise me at all
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:13 PM
Jan 2022

It is really hard to feel any sympathy for him. Hopefully, he didn't make anyone else sick.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
13. Meatloaf has been quite ill for some time.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:23 PM
Jan 2022

He’s had several surgeries over the last couple of years for back problems, etc. It was almost like, to me, that there was a drastic change in his mentality. Could it have been a drug addiction from pain killers for the back issues that caused his change in mentality? Who knows.

I loved his music. I don’t support Trump and I think it’s important to be vaccinated. But I’m not going to villify the man in his death. He’s dead. That’s punishment enough. Whether or not he was vaxxed isn’t known. Like so many idiot politicians, he may have railed yet vaxxed himself. I don’t know. Surely his doctors would have strongly urged him to get vaccinated.

The articles say his family was at his side and that makes me wonder if it was COVID. Don’t know.

I think the media has moved beyond the mention of COVID when there are other health issues.

Sympthsical

(9,038 posts)
35. His best friend died this past year
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:15 PM
Jan 2022

He referred to him in the past as his platonic life partner and said he wouldn't last long without him.

Plus, just in ill health in general for quite awhile.

modrepub

(3,491 posts)
14. Thou Shall Not Speak Ill of the Dead
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:34 PM
Jan 2022

That's the discretion I follow. Others are free to say what they want. And truth be told, I appreciate the information even if it's conjecture at this stage.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,941 posts)
15. I follow Maude's words
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:45 PM
Jan 2022

as spoken by the great Beatrice Arthur: ""You shouldn't speak anything but good of the dead. He's dead. Good." Well, not quite that, but he was in a high-risk category and unvaxxed. Therefore...he got the bulldozer that was headed straight for him. Sorry not sorry.

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
26. To be fair, Herman Cain Awards are for the Dead
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:02 PM
Jan 2022

And I have ZERO Thoughts and Prayers for Herman Cain Award recipients.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
47. Me either.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:42 PM
Jan 2022

In addition to posting anti-vaccine memes, many of them post extremely racist and hateful shit on their Facebook pages. Wouldn't be surprised in the least if Meat Loaf had a lot of those same feelings.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
18. A lot of families choose to hide unvaccinated COVID deaths
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 01:50 PM
Jan 2022

because it's stupid and embarrassing for them. Oh well. One less TFG supporter

KS Toronado

(17,151 posts)
36. Yep, had a unvaccinated magaloon cousin die from covid
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:17 PM
Jan 2022

her magaloon siblings said not covid at her funeral, they forgot the obit stated it was.

YoshidaYui

(41,818 posts)
24. I hate to say it but I don't have any
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:01 PM
Jan 2022

sympathy left for THOSE who refuse to take the shot. They made their choice and unfortunately death made the choice for them.

Traildogbob

(8,674 posts)
29. I noticed that
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:06 PM
Jan 2022

He was not a healthy person. But he was on page with Nugent politically. Was never a fan, amazing vocal range but just not to my liking. Fucked around and found out. Just a shame.

brooklynite

(94,350 posts)
31. Who is "they"?
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:10 PM
Jan 2022

I suspect most media aren't giving it a news angle because an 80s era singer is more entertainment.

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
32. RIP. I was introduced to him through The Apprentice.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:11 PM
Jan 2022

Unfortunately, I used to watch the show, but with scenes like this, can you blame me? lol

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
48. That incident made me think he might be on the spectrum.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:49 PM
Jan 2022

It also illustrated why his nickname was Meat. Thank goodness for Mark McGrath.

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
77. Meat Loaf explains his side of the blowup starting at the 34 minute mark of this
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 08:35 PM
Jan 2022

Last edited Sun Feb 6, 2022, 12:13 PM - Edit history (2)

episode of Dan Rather's "The Big Interview" in 2016:



He seemed pretty normal to me, even self-deprecating, during the interview.

He was diagnosed with Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome, a heart condition, in 2003 after collapsing on stage (it happened more than once after that):

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/wolff-parkinson-white-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20354626

He never appeared to be physically fit or truly healthy even when he lost weight. I think he'd be a fool not to be vaccinated if he didn't have a medical condition contraindicating it.

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
81. thank you for sharing this.
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 01:14 AM
Jan 2022

I hadn't seen it before. I enjoyed watching the interview. His music was so much of my teens and 20s. Just the first few notes of one of his songs can make me smile and remember....

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
84. You're welcome! I enjoyed his music, too. Graduated high school in the late 1970s and he was like
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 01:20 AM
Jan 2022

nobody else when he came on the scene. It's good he gave credit to John Belushi and Gilda Radner for his appearance on SNL that launched his BOOH album into the stratosphere.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
37. Never heard the attraction of Bat Out Of Hell.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:20 PM
Jan 2022

It's immense popularity really surprised me. I had a hard time listening to a single song.

If Covid killed him, I hope he didn't seriously infect anyone else and he gets a few anti vaxxers to roll up their sleeves.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
54. Many Of The Songs Are...
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 03:14 PM
Jan 2022

...very overproduced to the point that production doesn't match the song.
Then, that Dashboard tune is just boring, despite it's great success.
BTW: The husband of my wife's good friend was high school friends with Karla DeVito who was the video for that song and did it on tour with Meatloaf for years. She did not sing the original version. That was Ellen Foley.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,082 posts)
55. Music reveals so much about the creator.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 03:31 PM
Jan 2022

Reading how Mr Loaf didn't want to be controlled. What if he had ovaries and became pregnant via rape?

Little time for the libertarian with the sense of entitlement.

Bon Voyage Meat!

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
43. I don't think there's any conspiracy to hide it.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 02:35 PM
Jan 2022

The reputable news organizations will wait for verification.

Response to SoCalDavidS (Original post)

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
69. I'm sorry but yours is just a shitty post in my view.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 06:02 PM
Jan 2022

You didn’t like him? No problem. Hell, I disagree with his political views, etc. But every person who dies leaves behind collateral damage in people who cared about them.

I just think posts such as yours make “us” seem like “them”. Why is it necessary to get so ugly about him?

Response to SoCalDavidS (Original post)

xmas74

(29,671 posts)
62. Rocky Horror is Tim Curry
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 04:49 PM
Jan 2022

Meat was just a bit player. Tin Curry tore up and owned every inch of it.

Retrograde

(10,129 posts)
70. I saw it when it first came out
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 06:05 PM
Jan 2022

in a nearly-empty theater, mainly because I had seen Tim Curry in Travesties on Broadway. The movie was initially a flop: it took a while for it to get popular. I turned down a chance to see the Broadway production because I had a limited amount of time in NYC, there was something else I wanted to see at the time. By the time I got back it had closed.

Never went to one of the Rocky Horror "events".

argyl

(3,064 posts)
71. Rocky Horror was quite the cult classic for years.
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 07:18 PM
Jan 2022

There was a lot of audience participation in it and all. I went with a girl I was quite fond of, and vice versa.

She'd begged me to go with her for awhile. I preferred sawdust covered hippie bars for Saturdays with her and from what I'd heard of Rocky Horror it had no attraction for me.

We were at a double screen movie house in Highland Park, a very wealthy suburb of Dallas( a mere two screens; imagine that) and the other being played was a Lynyrd Skynyrd movie and after about 45 minutes I quietly slipped into the Skynyrd show. Told her I'd see her after the shows.

She was a real sweetie. I think she knew my chances of actually liking it were nil. We dated a while longer than that and kind of lost track. It was for the best. I was way too wild for her. And she came from a pretty high toned background and was very lovely.

Back then having long, pretty hair, being thin as a rail, and having a guitar you could actually play went a long way.

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
72. It's goes like this:
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 07:22 PM
Jan 2022

It's late Saturday night.
You're already out on the town.
Someone says, "What should we do next?"
There's a theater showing Rocky Horror Picture Show...
OK.."Let's go"

I think it takes all five of the above for it to happen...

SallyHemmings

(1,819 posts)
74. Me either
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 08:03 PM
Jan 2022

It was popular when I was in college. They had a showing every Wednesday at a local theater.

 

WillUSAF

(91 posts)
57. TMZ quoted
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 04:00 PM
Jan 2022

"Id rather die than be controlled"....well guess what? You got your wish. One less anti-vaxxer spreading their stupidity...

PatrickforB

(14,559 posts)
59. Paradise by the Dashboard Light and Bat Out of Hell
Fri Jan 21, 2022, 04:47 PM
Jan 2022

were a part of the soundtrack of my youth.

Meatloaf clearly made a mistake in judgement not getting vaxxed, but he's had health and emotional problems for years.

I will say about him what I say for all who die: May he rest in peace and be surrounded by the perpetual light of Divine love and learning. He has moved on.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,559 posts)
80. The Magat angle was not exactly played up in the news.
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 12:08 AM
Jan 2022

For my part, indifference is about all I can manage.

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