Dec 18th-acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller ordered a "Pentagon-wide halt to cooperation"

[EleanorR]

I'd forgotten about this.

Link to tweet

Pentagon officials have been left "stunned" after acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller ordered a "Pentagon-wide halt to cooperation" with President-elect Joe Biden's transition, Axios reports.

Miller, according to the report, on Thursday night ordered officials to cancel transition meetings that had previously been scheduled, "which stunned officials throughout the Pentagon." Officials reportedly were not clear on what led to the decision, and Axios says a top Biden official wasn't aware of the order.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/pentagon-officials-reportedly-stunned-acting-165434546.html

[Cracklin Charlie]

1. The riot at the Capitol seems to have been a last-ditch effort.

After many, many previous efforts to halt election certification.

These revelations are incredible. Why would so many people throw their lives away for Donald Trump?

[brush]

5. They stupidly let themselves get caught up in a cosplay fantasy...

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and thought they could get away with it despite leaving paper trails, videos, signed "fake elector" documents, phone transcripts, emails etc. all over the place. And the J6 rally and coup attempt was nationally televised.

Stupidity got contagious through out the trump admin and republican party. They all lived in fantasy land for a few weeks before and after J6.

[monkeyman1]

10. bar them from office forever & a hell of a lot of other republican's!!!!

[brush]

12. 100%

[EleanorR]

6. I was reading an interview with author Anne Applebaum about authoritarians and their followers

And this really struck a cord. I think this explains people like Stefanik.

She is as wary of the commonplace view that supporters of Trump, say, are conformists, who have been brainwashed online or by Fox News. They may be now in some part, but brainwashing does not explain how populist movements begin. Their leaders weren’t from small towns full of abandoned shops and drug-ridden streets. They were metropolitans, with degrees from Oxford in the case of Johnson and Dominic Cummings. The men and women Applebaum knew were not loyal drones but filled with a dark restlessness. They may pose as the tribunes of the common people now but they were members of the intellectual and educated elite willing to launch a war on the rest of the intellectual and educated elite.

Populist activists are outsiders only in that they feel insufficiently rewarded. And their opponents should never underestimate what their self-pitying vanity can make them do.

[Hestia]

44. You know, the last sentence belies the whole notion that there are a very small number of

sociopaths walking the earth. Is covid uncovering these mutants of the human race, or do they feel justified in releasing their inner sociopath/psychopath, or both? Is there so many now that we are the mutants?

Do you have a link to the article?

Thanks in advance!

[EleanorR]

52. Here's the article-

One thing I appreciate about being a Democrat is we try to see the best in people, to assume they are decent and doing their best. I try to hang on to that notion while still acknowledging that humans can be capable of great atrocities, and those people mustn't be allowed to hold power.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jul/12/anne-applebaum-how-my-old-friends-paved-the-way-for-trump-and-brexit

[hadEnuf]

21. "Why would so many people throw their lives away for Donald Trump?"

It took Hitler 15 years to convince Germans to go insane and hand their lives over to him. We've had 30+ years of non-stop right wing propaganda blaring on our radios, TV's and computers all day and all night. Trump is simply the latest result of that. For now.

[uponit7771]

39. Worse, Hitler murdered opposition part members and even the sane in his own party ...

... in this case of the use the sane in RNC aren't being murdered yet and the opposition party is speaking up loudly.

Last 8 years of Hitler Nazis were in control of media, here in the US MAGA isn't in control

and

People STILL believe Putin's Whore stupidity.

We're screwed if MAGA ever takes over

[Hestia]

45. We can compare Hitler as a person, but not really the people. We aren't burning money for heat or

taking literal wheelbarrows of money for bread/food shopping (it just feels like it sometimes).

What was the inflation rate in Germany in 1923?

approximately 29,500 percent

1923. Hyperinflation was one of the major problems plaguing Germany's Weimar republic during its last years of existence. Reaching a monthly inflation rate of approximately 29,500 percent in October 1923, and with an equivalent daily rate of 20.9 percent it took approximately 3.7 days for prices to double.

When we start seeing those numbers, then we really will have something to talk about

[hadEnuf]

55. Hitler capitalized on economic reforms that were already in place by the Weimar government in the

mid and late 1920's after he manipulated himself into power in 1933. After Hindenburg passed in 1934, trade unions were outlawed, work programs were made compulsory and standard work ours were increased which pumped up the numbers for arms production.

A lot of blaming, vindictiveness, over the top racism & extreme nationalism was sold to the German people via blatant propaganda. And it worked.

[Nevilledog]

2. Good catch.

[DURHAM D]

3. Why hasn't that SOB Miller been charged with treason? nt

[Wicked Blue]

9. +1 nt

[Rebl2]

14. EXACTLY!

[gab13by13]

16. Didn't he meet with the select committee?

I know they asked him.

[fwvinson]

19. Miller, will be included with the next to last group to be charged with

treason (or whatever they call the charges). I'm thinking the next to last group charged with treason are the tfg's kids and close associates. The final charges will be tfg, guilliani, pence. IMO. And, guilliani might be in the kid's group.

[Walleye]

4. Biden's first year in office was even more impressive considering he had no transition

In fact the previous administration was working against him in every way they could. He just put his head down ignored them and did the work

[EleanorR]

8. And Cruz, Hawley, and Rubio blocking confirmations

Since we began tracking President Biden’s Cabinet and appointees, we have broken them down by department. This enables one to move beyond the aggregate figures and examine confirmations within each of the 15 departments. Such an examination reveals that the Biden administration has the fewest number of confirmed appointees in seven of the 15 departments including Commerce, Defense, Homeland Security, Housing and Urban Development, State, Transportation, and Treasury. Of these, the performance in the State Department is weakest; an unsurprising predicament given the emergence of a Republican blockade by Senators Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), Josh Hawley (R-Mo.), and more recently, Marco Rubio (R-Fla). Working together, they have stalled the confirmations of many senior State Department officials. To provide a clearer sense of just how many appointees are being held up, the Partnership for Public Service indicated that as of November 22, there were 85 pending State Department nominees, 47 of which were awaiting a full vote. This GOP blockade has clearly succeeded as demonstrated by the confirmation records of President Biden compared to his three predecessors on day 300: Biden 27, Trump 55, Obama 92, and Bush 133.

[Volaris]

20. State. These fools WANT putin to invade and subjugate Ukraine.

Good god...

[druidity33]

36. Recess appointments?...

Is there a reason Biden has not done that for some of these nominees?

[uponit7771]

40. +1, that's left out of the narrative but it should've been overstated

[Walleye]

42. The media is acting as if we had a normal election and now they can beat up on the incumbent

I never hear any mention of the incredible challenges the president faces because of the unlawful actions of the former guy

[Mad_Machine76]

53. +1000

[Hestia]

46. Right! Of course, let's not have our "media" discussing such facts - Dem's should start

touting this on the road - we've had to rebuilt a government from scratch.

Isn't there something like 38,000 positions *still* open across all agencies still to be filled? It's something astronomical like that.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. They were all-in. Sure they'd succeed. Suckers, all of them. . . . . nt

[monkeyman1]

11. Massive stupidity ! go figure!!!

[Biophilic]

13. Holy shit. In spite of all that has come before I'm still kind of left

feeling blind-sided. It just keeps getting worse and worse and more and more real.

[bucolic_frolic]

15. And those MEALEY-MOUTHED REPUBLICANS WERE OUT PREACHING UNITY after Jan 6

They've got a barn-burner underway now

[Hestia]

47. Which is why the word "bipartisanship" should never be used by anyone in the Democratic Party ever

again. It was used against us during the * years via Turdblossom, and is now being thrown in our faces again.

There is no working with the GQP and we should stop the nonsense. It bogs us down into the mud with the "media" and chews up time, which is why is appears the GQP is winning all arguments right now - it's because they keep coming up with the most ludicrious arguments ALL the time, then have their minions with microphones wanting to know why Democratic Senator or Representative so-and-so doesn't agree it.

Stop the madness, quit the talking head programs for awhile and get down to come up with a game plan for mid-terms. DNC is failing on this point. Plus, make actual Democrats pay their dues. DNC is allowing people like Simenma (sp?) use the "D" moniker but do absolutely nothing, not even financial, to support the Democratic Party.

[malaise]

17. Full blown attempted coup

That's what it was

[L. Coyote]

26. I prefer failed coup. Tried everything, including murdering police, and failed.

Too many people knew how insane #FailedCoupGuy is, imagine if a competent autocratic leader had tried this instead with sufficient military backing. #FailedCoupGuy tried to create a military-ruled government.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

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[malaise]

28. Yes it was a failed coup

Lock him up!

[Cha]

30. RT TY for the tweets.. Did General

Milley apologize for that photo? I seem to remember that.

I know the idiot Ingram was suppose to have cheered when Milley got COVID.

[L. Coyote]

31. It was a mistake in retrospect is what I recall.

Link to tweet

[Cha]

32. TY Rt.. I love it when people

admit their Mistakes.. and that was a Whopper!

[Hestia]

48. You know, almost all the generals would never have gotten their stars and bars until Iraq

happened. All the A-B-C team generals and other higher ups quit or retired when * and team absolutely insisted that they get geared up to invade Iraq. There was almost no higher up left with real combat experience. It was why we hadn't been at war, except for Bosnian crisis, for so long was because the Pentagon higher up's had seen real combat and said never again and meant it. They were pushed aside in Turdblossom's quest for * daddy getting revenge for a 20 year old blood feud. Well, that, and Iraq talking OPEC into getting off the dollar as the world's reserve financial currency. Sanctions do work...

[gratuitous]

18. Sort of off topic: "I'd forgotten about this"

A recurring problem that I think liberals and progressives have (and I am in no way meaning to impugn or single out EleanorR, just that her remark spurred this in me) is that we think everyone will pick up on stuff that happens or stuff we say the first time, and we hate repeating ourselves. We have to get over that, and I include myself.

We have to remind each other and tell others about the things that happened under the former guy. Far too much got swept under the rug, and a lot of people have no clue about why the January 6 Committee is even meeting. They've blanked that horrid day out of their minds, and the antecedents that led up to the failed insurrection have faded into the mists of time. I submit that that is on us; we don't remind people of the heinous acts.

The good news is that there are openings galore for bringing these things back up, and right now is a prime example. In the wake of President Biden's press conference, the popular media are doing all kinds of bad-mouthing of the administration. Toss the little fact that the Biden administration got no cooperation from the outgoing administration about the transition, and that agency heads went so far as to order their people not to meet with the incoming Biden transition team. NOW what do you have to say about the Biden record so far, media types? Why don't you include that in your analysis?

[Hestia]

50. Part of it, is that Zoe Lofgren (CA) was on All In last night and stated that unless 100% of the

committee agreed, no information would be released to any source. It's why we don't see Gym or others coming out their statements, they don't know what the Committee is discussing or subpoenas are the next to be handed out. I don't see Liz talking around the water color to any GQP, do y'all?

Also, because it is a crime to lie to Congress when testifying, it is why TFG's coterie is refusing to testify.

[LiberalFighter]

22. Miller needs to be blackballed from any government position and denied entry.

[Hestia]

49. His slimy ass needs to be taken out of society

[Augiedog]

23. Treason is all around

[DallasNE]

24. Top General Said Military Has No Role In Election

That may have thwarted this effort to seize the voting machines. At least, I would hope.

[L. Coyote]

33. White House Counsel would have tossed this in the trash really fast, totally illegal idea.

The Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement except when expressly authorized by law.

18 U.S. Code § 1385 - Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus

Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

[Hassler]

25. Step right up, Chris Miller. Take your ride on the Insurrection train.

[Cha]

29. Rt TY! Thank Goodness it

did NOT happen. And, I wonder what stopped the fuckers?

[empedocles]

34. Great question

[empedocles]

35. ty

[BSdetect]

37. Another act of treason and it deserves full treatment as such.

[uponit7771]

38. People, this was ... waaaaaaay ... deeper than a couple of memos

[Kid Berwyn]

41. Seditious Conspiracy.

We must find, try and imprison every single traitor.

[Baitball Blogger]

43. Military needs to stop being shocked about their officers' right-leaning bias.

They helped foster a messiah worship of their military men and, especially, officers. Criticism was shot on sight, and the person who dared to bring out information that questioned the decisions of old white guys was vilified for being unpatriotic. I'm just saying, they should not be shocked by how easily their branches can get couped by men who have not been checked for abusing their own messiah complexes.

[Hestia]

51. Plus, Faux News and RWNJ radio being blasted 24/7, doesn't take much to get

18, 19, 20+ y/o hearts and minds...

[malaise]

54. Remember this?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/28/biden-accuses-trumps-pentagon-and-omb-of-obstruction-demands-cooperation.html


Biden accuses Trump’s Pentagon and OMB of obstruction, demands cooperation with transition team

President-elect Joe Biden said Monday his transition team has run into “roadblocks” and “obstruction” from Trump administration officials at key agencies.
Biden singled out the Department of Defense and the Office of Management and Budget, saying his team has “encountered roadblocks from the political leadership” at those agencies.
“It’s nothing short, in my view, of irresponsibility,” Biden said.