That Blood Thirsty Mutherfucker is Going to Start WWIII in the Ukraine

[Beetwasher.]

And he had a stooge in the WH shoveling him intel. God help us.

[C_U_L8R]

1. Who, what?

[maxsolomon]

2. Putin, one gathers.

[stopdiggin]

3. WWIII ?

which countries do you envision going to war with Russia - over the Ukraine?

[kirby]

5. which countries do you envision going to war

For the assassination of some unknown Archduke?

[former9thward]

6. He was unknown in the U.S.

He was very well known in Europe. Not everything is U.S. centered.

[stopdiggin]

14. I'll repeat. List the countries YOU think

are preparing to go to war with Russia (in the event of an invasion of Ukraine)? Here's mine ______

The OP is completely over the top - European history from 1914 not withstanding. Do you really want to hitch your wagon .. ?

[kirby]

15. Zero countries

And Putin knows it.

But what happens as things escalate?

[stopdiggin]

17. by 'escalate' do you propose that Putin

will attack a NATO country? Is there any rationale for such an action? Is there a real scenario being put forward here? Or is this just 'dangerous times' bugaboo being pushed around?

[PatSeg]

28. Much like when Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia

and we know how that ended. Is Putin playing the Hitler card, hoping history repeats itself and other countries stand down?

[alphafemale]

29. How many countries are you oK with Putin seizing?

Just wondering.

[stopdiggin]

30. I myself am pretty unhappy at the prospect of him

taking even one. But that doesn't change the facts on the ground one iota. You sidestepped the question - how many countries do YOU see going to war with Russia over the Ukraine? Crickets.

[Texaswitchy]

4. I saw some YouTube videos about the citizens from the Ukraine fighting back.

Not just the regular Army but citizens going into reserves.

Men and women both.

Military training with guns.

The citizens do not want Putin.

[ripcord]

7. Take out Putin

I would much rather see him assassinated than an untold number of innocents dying because of him.

[former9thward]

9. Assassination is an act of war.

The Russians would make a nuclear response.

[The Magistrate]

10. That I Doubt, Sir

I expect even most of his cronies would greet news of his death by whatever agency by a heartfelt sigh of relief....

[former9thward]

8. Nobody is going to fight for Ukraine.

There will be no WW III over Ukraine.

[Tommymac]

11. Putin is overreaching, just like his protege.

No war - but BRUTAL Global Economic Sanctions will bring Russia to its knees by next winter.

We are talking almost every industrial country in the World. And Mega Corporations too.

These are not the economic sanctions your grandpap was familiar with either. These will be sanctions on steroids.

Putin eventually will be facing an internal Civil War if he tries to annex the Ukraine. Think Saddam Hussein and multiply by 100.

[madville]

18. Europe/EU can't afford brutal sanctions

They are dependent on being supplied by Russian energy sources, natural gas for their power plants most of all. Germany shutting down almost all their nuclear plants and relying even more on natural gas has made this very tricky.

[Tommymac]

20. I disagree. I have family in several EU countries and

they tell me that their countries are all ready to stand firmly against Putin. They still remember appeasement and it's results.

NATO will stand strong and will prevail. No doubts at all.

[madville]

22. Does your family there need electricity and heat?

Because if the EU gets cut off from Russian NG supplies it’s gonna be bad. Multiple articles the last couple of days about that issue:

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/germanys-reliance-on-russian-gas-limits-europes-options-in-ukraine-crisis-11642939203

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-24/europe-s-economies-have-more-at-stake-than-u-s-in-russia-clash

[Tommymac]

23. Not buying it.

The first link is paywalled, and the WSJ is not exactly an unbiased paper of record.

Bloomberg is hedging bets in their article, it spins Putin's way which I would expect.

I did find this gem in the article though:

Sanctions against Russia would also benefit U.S. exporters who are seeking to ship more liquefied natural gas into Europe.

I'd expect the EU would also temporarily turn to other sources of energy, such as coal which could benefit the coal producing states.
Germany could delay the retirement of it's remaining Nuclear plants for a while. And it will spur construction of more Wind power and Solar Power farms.

The US and most sane Global Cartels will be assisting our NATO Allies in the EU. And Britain.

Won't be easy but stopping Authoritarian aggression has never been easy.

It's what NATO is designed to do.

Anyway, thanks for the links and have a good day. Made my case and moving on.

[former9thward]

24. The biggest industrial country in the world is China.

And they are allied with Russia. The rest of the Asia countries will ignore sanctions. As will the African countries.

[Kaleva]

26. A number of nations in Asia are aligning against China.

Vietnam, Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, India, Australia, Philippines to name a few.

[former9thward]

27. India is another Russian ally for one.

Australia is not in Asia.

[Kaleva]

34. India hates China far more then it loves Russia.

India is spending much to upgrade its military to counter China. Also India can restrict ocean traffic through the Malacca Straits where much of the oil China imports from the Middle East passes.

Australia is not in Asia but it is aligning itself with Asian countries that oppose China. As China doesn't produce enough coal to meet domestic demands, its imports coal from Australia.

Shortages of oil and coal would severely hamper industrial production in China.

[Jon King]

13. Yeah, this stuff is getting a bit over the top.

Somehow the USA with 81 million Biden voters and a military that is 45% minorities is the same as what German Jews faced when they were 0.5% of the total population. And now god needs to 'help us' because the entire planet is going to go to war for freakin Ukraine?

Geez, got to be better than this.

[electric_blue68]

25. I don't support going to war for Ukraine, but supply arms, and tech etc yes! ...

However I find as a 2nd Gen Half Ukrainian-American your use of the language "freaking Ukraine" very Offensive.

[Jon King]

12. What is with these breathless panicky threads lately?

So now we move from threads about Democrats being put into reeducation camps to this now?

[Takket]

16. i think he's going to take ukraine with very little fanfare

the world just can't be bothered with this, frankly. covid has cost the global economy trillions of dollars, every major power is dealing with political strife from right wing lunatics trying to spread the virus... we enough problems here and while i support helping ukraine with materials, we just cannot afford the cost in money or lives it would take to kick Russia out. There is just to much to deal with here.

of course, the Democrats will be CRUSHED for letting russia take ukraine, but they would also be CRUSHED for going to war over this when so many Domestic issues need attention. As always, there is nothing the Democrats can do that won't draw fury from the media.

[madville]

19. It's a no win situation, that's why

Putin is doing it. He knows we aren’t gonna go to war over it, and heavy sanctions would drive the price of worldwide energy sources even higher, hurting us here at home.

[Tommymac]

21. Again, disagree.

Putin is an authoritarian asshole who, seriously, is about to commit a huge overreach.

He ain't seen nothing yet. The West alone is going to KICK. HIS. ASS.

Sanctions will have his weak bullying ass facing a Civil War at home within a year.

[roamer65]

31. Poland 1939.

Ukraine 2022.

[roamer65]

32. Putin wouldn't be doing his without the approval of his puppeteer Xi.

Beijing approves of this bullshit.

[Earth-shine]

33. Putin thinks the US is too politically divided to be a threat.

He might be right.