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captain queeg

(10,170 posts)
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 11:55 PM Jan 2022

As the truth trickles out, will rethugs finally abandon TFG?

There will always be the devoted morons that will always justify anything he’s done. But I think ultimately many will leave him. Not like they’ll change their stance on anything else, but he will be such a liability they’ll distance themselves. As far as the politicians he has infected, I wonder what will come out once he starts feeling the walls closing in on him. Will he start divulging whatever blackmail he is holding against them? His MO has always been that of a middle school bully and that is a favorite tactic, to try to save himself by diverting attention to someone else. I could see him having a “heart attack” if he starts dragging a lot of others down.

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As the truth trickles out, will rethugs finally abandon TFG? (Original Post) captain queeg Jan 2022 OP
LOL Skittles Jan 2022 #1
They are in way too deep. Both feet and cement and it's hardened Walleye Jan 2022 #2
They already know the truth; they are proud of his crimes (and their own). lagomorph777 Jan 2022 #3
They admire what "he did" and Colgate 64 Jan 2022 #11
Bingo ! Nt jaysunb Jan 2022 #23
No. Trump indoctrinated (inoculated) them early. The magic words are: rsdsharp Jan 2022 #4
Absolutely not. RockRaven Jan 2022 #5
Many of them want to be just like him, they admire him, leader of the cult. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2022 #6
I mean this in the nicest way possible, Patterson Jan 2022 #7
Sunk cost fallacy Retrograde Jan 2022 #8
There is a persistent belief that repukes wiil become rationale Alpeduez21 Jan 2022 #9
They forget people in jail real fast. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #10
I quite mistakenly thought Trump would split the Republican party in 2016 Silent3 Jan 2022 #12
Reference your comment that "...Trump dropping dead,..." Dan Jan 2022 #19
Yes, many will abandon him. NanceGreggs Jan 2022 #13
I don't believe so Metaphorical Jan 2022 #14
"..according to the GQP... Septua Jan 2022 #20
Authoritarian leaders don't get abandoned. They get replaced. unblock Jan 2022 #15
I think if he's indicted, the donors will bail, but the base will never desert him. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2022 #16
Well, maybe. Septua Jan 2022 #17
Not as long as they think they can get votes out of it. GaYellowDawg Jan 2022 #18
Only when they know that their trump-endorsed primary challenger won't win. PSPS Jan 2022 #21
They might, for another fascist god. GoodRaisin Jan 2022 #22
Once they figure out that TFG has no longer has power to hurt democrats they will flee to DeSaintis. Hotler Jan 2022 #24
Screw them. kentuck Jan 2022 #25
No sakabatou Jan 2022 #26
No Johnny2X2X Jan 2022 #27
They won't hear about it Dirty Socialist Jan 2022 #28

Colgate 64

(14,732 posts)
11. They admire what "he did" and
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 12:53 AM
Jan 2022

.secretly wish they could be just like him. TFG is the answer to their prayers/

rsdsharp

(9,165 posts)
4. No. Trump indoctrinated (inoculated) them early. The magic words are:
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 12:11 AM
Jan 2022

Fake News. It’s the MAGA version of putting their fingers in their ears and saying Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah.

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
5. Absolutely not.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 12:12 AM
Jan 2022

It's never been about facts/evidence. Nothing can come out which will change their adoration of him. He's already been exposed saying/doing everything which ought to make them drop him -- based on their own supposed priorities/values -- and they haven't. Nothing additional will have that effect if all the prior stuff didn't. He hates and craps on the correct people to push their buttons, or postures as such anyway. That is all that matters, apparently.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
8. Sunk cost fallacy
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 12:41 AM
Jan 2022

they've already invested so much (time, emotion, money) in him and it would be a total loss if they stopped now - so a core base of them will keep supporting Donnie no matter what.

Alpeduez21

(1,751 posts)
9. There is a persistent belief that repukes wiil become rationale
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 12:43 AM
Jan 2022

This needs to stop. There is plenty of evidence that repukes have gotten less integrity and morality over the past couple decades. There is plenty of evidence that any sense of doing what's good for people will not get a repuke elected. There is OVERWHELMING evidence that the current iteration of the requplican party is anything but rational. There is NO evidence that a logical presentation of facts will cause the party that gleefully supplies weapons to mass murderers to change course. After Romney lost plenty of repuke think tanks said the party needs to get nicer and more egalitarian. The opposite direction was chosen. TFG is a symptom of the disease that is the republican party. They must be defeated so GOTV. Do not expect them to change.

Silent3

(15,201 posts)
12. I quite mistakenly thought Trump would split the Republican party in 2016
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 01:04 AM
Jan 2022

I was amazed at how willing Republicans were to give up all of the principles that I thought at least a handful of them had to appease Trump and "the base".

Even after they did that, I still figured many preferred Pence, and would happily amplify, rather than downplay, any subsequent Trump scandals in order to boot Trump and replace him with a more traditional, stable Republican like Pence.

Wrong again.

Two impeachments after that, I don't think there's anything left, except Trump dropping dead, that will shake them free from Trump. If Trump were suddenly out of the picture, they'd latch onto some new extremist, probably a more dangerously competent and intelligent one.

Dan

(3,550 posts)
19. Reference your comment that "...Trump dropping dead,..."
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 02:19 AM
Jan 2022

I think that maybe a number of them might do the Jim Jones route… and join him in death. I mean, some of them think of him as their God.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
13. Yes, many will abandon him.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 01:15 AM
Jan 2022

Those who have had their fingers in their ears for five years are about to hear things they've avoided up until now - and that's been the real problem. It's not that the MAGAts have heard the truth and disbelieved it - they've simply chosen not to listen.

That's about to change. What gets testified to in public hearings will be inescapable. It will be the topic of conversation in public places, and people will hear it, whether they want to or not.

Some will be horrified by the crimes, the corruption. Some will be appalled at their own willingness to be conned.

And some will see their fearless leader for what he's always been - a sniveling grifter whose 'leadership' never existed, a bully running a con game on the most gullible marks.

Metaphorical

(1,602 posts)
14. I don't believe so
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 01:38 AM
Jan 2022

Going by what I see on Linked-In, according to the GQP, the economy is set to collapse economically any day now, the stock market is going to crash harder than it did under Trump, inflation has everything to do with failed fiscal overspending and socialist policies and absolutely nothing to do with supply chain problems, the Pandemic was Biden's fault, and that he is going to resign soon due to senility issues and put Trump back in office.

The problem is that the Republicans who realized that the GOP had become an extremist party have already left, and are increasingly now in the gray zone Independents group who don't like progressive Democratic politics but think the GOP has become a cult. What's left is smaller, but more virulent, and these in turn are being amplified by the very wealthy who have no problem seeing this country collapse so long as they don't have to pay taxes.



Septua

(2,254 posts)
20. "..according to the GQP...
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 02:22 AM
Jan 2022

..the economy is set to collapse economically any day now, the stock market is going to crash harder than it did under Trump, inflation has everything to do with failed fiscal overspending and socialist policies and absolutely nothing to do with supply chain problems, the Pandemic was Biden's fault, and that he is going to resign soon due to senility issues and put Trump back in office."

That crappola really pisses me off...I'll bet not one 'conservative' media source is saying a word about all the Committee's info on the coup attempt.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
15. Authoritarian leaders don't get abandoned. They get replaced.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 01:40 AM
Jan 2022

They will stick with him until someone steps in his shoes, one way or another.

Septua

(2,254 posts)
17. Well, maybe.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 02:13 AM
Jan 2022

If he's indicted and acquitted, he'll still be in the game, bigger than ever. If convicted, it will depend on the sentencing term...past Nov 2024 or not.

GoodRaisin

(8,922 posts)
22. They might, for another fascist god.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 03:09 AM
Jan 2022

That means someone will have to have the courage to go up against him though. Someone the sheep can rally behind.

Hotler

(11,416 posts)
24. Once they figure out that TFG has no longer has power to hurt democrats they will flee to DeSaintis.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 09:54 AM
Jan 2022

A very mean, vengeful MFer.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
27. No
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 02:18 PM
Jan 2022

That party no longer cares about continuing our democracy, the more horrid things they find out about Trump, the better they love him.

It's like his popularity with Evangelicals, people don't seem to get that he's popular with them not in spite of his serial rape accusations, dozens of sexual assaults, and general abuse of women, he's popular with Evangelicals because of his abuse of women. They love him for brutalizing women.

Republicans love Trump for being anti American Democracy, they're ready for full authoritarian rule.

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