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NewHendoLib

(60,014 posts)
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 04:06 PM Jan 2022

Wow. Just...wow. "NASA's revolutionary James Webb Space Telescope reaches final orbit in space"

https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/24/22895050/nasa-jwst-space-telescope-final-orbit-lagrange-point

After traveling hundreds of thousands of miles through space over the last month, NASA’s revolutionary new James Webb Space Telescope performed its last big course correction maneuver this afternoon, putting itself into its final resting place in space. Now, the observatory will live in perpetuity at a distance of roughly 1 million miles from the Earth, giving the vehicle a front-row view of the most ancient stars and galaxies of the Universe.

Launched on Christmas Day, NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope, or JWST, has had a wild ride to its destination. Too enormous to fly to space in its final form, the telescope had to launch folded up inside its rocket. Once it reached space, JWST began an extremely complex routine of shape-shifting and unfurling, a type of choreography that no spacecraft had ever performed before. Yet JWST performed every step flawlessly, completing its major deployments on January 8th and blossoming into its full configuration.


Plenty of anxiety surrounded those deployments, as they had to work as planned; one failure could have jeopardized JWST’s entire mission. But the mission team’s unease didn’t end when unfurling was complete. JWST still had to get into its final position in space in order to do its job properly. If the observatory didn’t slow down just right today, the vehicle ran the risk of getting into the wrong orbit or missing its target trajectory completely. Such a failure could have complicated the mission’s future, making it incredibly difficult for scientists to communicate with the nearly $10 billion space observatory.

Fortunately, JWST performed this last maneuver flawlessly. “During the past month, JWST has achieved amazing success and is a tribute to all the folks who spent many years and even decades to ensure mission success,” Bill Ochs, the JWST project manager at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, said in a statemen


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This just remarkable, just brilliant - and...science! Shows what our species CAN do (such a contrast to what we've see lately in the world in so many awful examples).
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Wow. Just...wow. "NASA's revolutionary James Webb Space Telescope reaches final orbit in space" (Original Post) NewHendoLib Jan 2022 OP
K&R! Carlitos Brigante Jan 2022 #1
Amazing what humans can do when we allow ourselves to do it. Torchlight Jan 2022 #2
Photos or it didn't happen! ZZenith Jan 2022 #3
Wait about 6 months. lagomorph777 Jan 2022 #6
I'm an American, gawddammit - I shouldn't have to wait! ZZenith Jan 2022 #9
Where's Webb wyn borkins Jan 2022 #4
Click on this link right now!! What a great website. Look at the L2 orbit animation for sure. EarnestPutz Jan 2022 #8
It's a fun link TxGuitar Jan 2022 #10
Yes, fun and fabulous. There's an animation of Webb's orbit that Hortensis Jan 2022 #21
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Jan 2022 #5
History made Moebym Jan 2022 #7
Crazy how most people have no idea about the Webb. BradBo Jan 2022 #11
When is first light? TrogL Jan 2022 #12
we won't see anything until late spring/early summer - lots of work to NewHendoLib Jan 2022 #13
nah-- fake telescope, housecat Jan 2022 #14
. NewHendoLib Jan 2022 #15
how did you know? housecat Jan 2022 #18
It is if he calls it fake, then takes credit for building and launching it..... lastlib Jan 2022 #23
K&R x 1000 BlueJac Jan 2022 #16
Fantastic! Snackshack Jan 2022 #17
Take a selfie!! Grins Jan 2022 #19
You're last statement is spot on. Like MRNA vaccines. mjvpi Jan 2022 #20
Amazing nothing went wrong! scipan Jan 2022 #22
According to this link: lastlib Jan 2022 #25
Oh thanks! I should have tried looking it up myself. scipan Jan 2022 #28
So it's kinda similar to the moon scipan Jan 2022 #32
I watched the event on the whereiswebb site. TNNurse Jan 2022 #24
Nice timing. electric_blue68 Jan 2022 #27
Ditto 3auld6phart Jan 2022 #40
Do you get the spotthestation.nasa.gov emails TNNurse Jan 2022 #41
No 3auld6phart Jan 2022 #43
The emails tell you when the ISS goes over your location. TNNurse Jan 2022 #44
The last 4 days I was like a Kid - Are We There Yet?! ... electric_blue68 Jan 2022 #26
It's good to be alive scipan Jan 2022 #29
Yeah, imagine, 6000 years! NewHendoLib Jan 2022 #33
Wow. scipan Jan 2022 #35
Careful, don't want to get usshered out... Tommymac Jan 2022 #38
I saw your's and scipan's headers only and didn't get your reply, but.. electric_blue68 Jan 2022 #45
I always wonder how the holy rollers square their understanding of "science" NewHendoLib Jan 2022 #46
Hmmm, I don't think I've ever seen a hr's take on what ... electric_blue68 Jan 2022 #48
Can't wait to begin seeing images. This summer I think? Magoo48 Jan 2022 #30
Great progress but, Disaffected Jan 2022 #31
Fingers crossed: Check! lastlib Jan 2022 #36
Yaaay, science!!! SheltieLover Jan 2022 #34
i'm so jealous of the telescope. wish i was out there with it lol Takket Jan 2022 #37
This thing is in LaGrange!!! Tommymac Jan 2022 #39
K&R n/t ChazII Jan 2022 #42
First image back from the James Webb telescope... Wounded Bear Jan 2022 #47

Torchlight

(3,330 posts)
2. Amazing what humans can do when we allow ourselves to do it.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 04:12 PM
Jan 2022

Flawless engineering on this thing. It's science, but it's so much more; it's also dreams and expectations and hopes and wonder and awe.

I'm really looking forward to when it begins sending data back to earth for analysis and reading the initial hypotheses.

ZZenith

(4,121 posts)
9. I'm an American, gawddammit - I shouldn't have to wait!
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 04:55 PM
Jan 2022

Just kidding.

Have been following the project for many years, just super eager to see what it sees. Feels like we’re finally crawling out of the muck as a species and taking a good look around for the first time. As much as we gleaned from the Hubble we can expect 10x that information from JWST.

Just gotta keep ourselves from blowing ourselves up in the meantime.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Yes, fun and fabulous. There's an animation of Webb's orbit that
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 05:52 PM
Jan 2022

shows how it slips into L2 orbit. The midcourse corrections were done halfway out, so that it mostly just finishes arriving and...settles into its L2 orbit with the rest of the equipment mankind has parked there.

BradBo

(529 posts)
11. Crazy how most people have no idea about the Webb.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 05:00 PM
Jan 2022

When I run into someone else that’s excited about it,its 10 minutes of fun talk about how amazing this accomplishment is.
This is one of the pinnacles of the human race.

NewHendoLib

(60,014 posts)
13. we won't see anything until late spring/early summer - lots of work to
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 05:04 PM
Jan 2022

do to get the 18 mirrors to see as one.

lastlib

(23,220 posts)
23. It is if he calls it fake, then takes credit for building and launching it.....
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 06:28 PM
Jan 2022

He did it all--stable jeenious, yanno......

scipan

(2,343 posts)
22. Amazing nothing went wrong!
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 06:25 PM
Jan 2022

Does anyone know the size of the orbit around L2? I am trying to picture it in my (poor little) head.

We can be so stupid yet this shows the best of us. And for the best of reasons.

lastlib

(23,220 posts)
25. According to this link:
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 06:37 PM
Jan 2022
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/james-webb-space-telescope-reaches-orbit-destination-nasa/

For the rest of its operational life, Webb will circle L2 at distances between 155,000 and 517,000 miles, taking six months to complete one orbit. Because the orbit around L2 is not perfectly stable, small thruster firings will be carried out every three weeks or so to maintain the telescope's trajectory.


Good question--I had to look it up, too!

scipan

(2,343 posts)
28. Oh thanks! I should have tried looking it up myself.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 06:42 PM
Jan 2022

But people on this thread seemed so knowledgeable I thought most of them would know.

scipan

(2,343 posts)
32. So it's kinda similar to the moon
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 06:55 PM
Jan 2022
The moon's orbit around Earth is elliptical. At perigee — its closest approach — the moon comes as close as 225,623 miles (363,104 kilometers). At apogee — the farthest away it gets — the moon is 252,088 miles (405,696 km) from Earth. On average, the distance from Earth to the moon is about 238,855 miles (384,400 km).


https://www.space.com/24871-does-the-moon-rotate.html

But a lot more elliptical.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
24. I watched the event on the whereiswebb site.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 06:33 PM
Jan 2022

It was so cool to watch the distance go to 0000 and "distance complete".

3auld6phart

(1,046 posts)
40. Ditto
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 01:11 PM
Jan 2022

Did the same. Been chasing it several times a day since the
Launch. Checking ISS several times also And spend way too
much time on my favourite site DU Did the countdown also
A totally amazing feat altogether by all concerned .

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
41. Do you get the spotthestation.nasa.gov emails
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 02:12 PM
Jan 2022

so you can see the ISS go over??? We stand outside like big nerds to watch. It is so cool. It doesn't look like anything else in the sky.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
44. The emails tell you when the ISS goes over your location.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:11 PM
Jan 2022

Can you see light at a distance? That is really all we see in the night sky.

electric_blue68

(14,888 posts)
26. The last 4 days I was like a Kid - Are We There Yet?! ...
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 06:38 PM
Jan 2022

Instead of checking Where's Webb 1x day I was checking 3x-4xs/day! 😄

So exciting! An early summer of cool, and amazing surprises.

scipan

(2,343 posts)
29. It's good to be alive
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 06:48 PM
Jan 2022

to see such amazing instruments. And now we will all be able to see back almost to the beginning of time. Wow.

I guess there isn’t much that can go wrong now.

scipan

(2,343 posts)
35. Wow.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 07:35 PM
Jan 2022


Seriously,
The Radiation Era
10,000 years
The first major era in the history of the universe is one in which most of the energy is in the form of radiation -- different wavelengths of light, X rays, radio waves and ultraviolet rays. This energy is the remnant of the primordial fireball, and as the universe expands, the waves of radiation are stretched and diluted until today, they make up the faint glow of microwaves which bathe the entire universe.

Beginning the Era of Matter Domination
300,000 years
At this moment, the energy in matter and the energy in radiation are equal. But as the relentless expansion continues, the waves of light are stretched to lower and lower energy, while the matter travels onward largely unaffected. At about this time, neutral atoms are formed as electrons link up with hydrogen and helium nuclei. The microwave background radiation hails from this moment, and thus gives us a direct picture of how matter was distributed at this early time.

Birth of Stars and Galaxies
300 million years
Gravity amplifies slight irregularities in the density of the primordial gas. Even as the universe continues to expand rapidly, pockets of gas become more and more dense. Stars ignite within these pockets, and groups of stars become the earliest galaxies. This point is still perhaps 12 to 15 billion years before the present.


http://patrickgrant.com/BBTL.htm

How far back will Webb see? Webb will be able to see what the universe looked like around a quarter of a billion years (possibly back to 100 million years) after the Big Bang, when the first stars and galaxies started to form.


https://webb.nasa.gov/content/about/faqs/faqLite.html

electric_blue68

(14,888 posts)
45. I saw your's and scipan's headers only and didn't get your reply, but..
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:31 PM
Jan 2022

then seeing the full post "back in time"... and "...6000 yrs"

Now I do.



NewHendoLib

(60,014 posts)
46. I always wonder how the holy rollers square their understanding of "science"
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:37 PM
Jan 2022

with real science. Do they think stars are little splotches of paint? Fake news?

electric_blue68

(14,888 posts)
48. Hmmm, I don't think I've ever seen a hr's take on what ...
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 05:52 PM
Jan 2022

a star is.

Otoh the Jesuits believe in Science, and the Vatican has it's own astronomer.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
31. Great progress but,
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 06:54 PM
Jan 2022

there are months of commissioning left to go including mirror alignment and instrument turn on & calibration.

We ain't there quite yet and stuff could still go awry.

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