With Justice Breyer retiring, I just hope Sinema and Manchin don't screw things up. With the

[JohnSJ]

censure of Sinema by the Arizona Democratic party, I really hope that does not backfire on us with the judicial appointments

[Elessar Zappa]

1. So far,

they’ve been confirming Biden’s judges without a hitch. Hopefully that will continue.

[JohnSJ]

2. I know, and that is why I was very much against the personal attacks against them, but with the

censure of Sinema in Arizona, I think that may be a wild card

[WA-03 Democrat]

5. What is the alternative?

She was correct to be censured. Being against equal voting rights is antithetical to being a Democratic Representative. Condemnation was due and was delivered. She made her choices and her voters are not happy. If she does not care about this for over a year why would a simple censure of a body that supports Democrats hurt her now?

[JohnSJ]

9. It is a misguided strategy. Biden had 42 judicial appointments in his first year, and that was WITH

Manchin and Sinema

Both are NOT up for re-election in the midterms, and going out of your way to piss the two Senators whose votes you need for judicial nominations, is playing with fire.

Censure does NOT do a damn thing.

[WA-03 Democrat]

16. So just be nice and get a long?

Censure does NOT do a damn thing. Is it right to do this-yes. 81,000,000 Americans are pissed at two Senators. I am going to go with the majority on this one and wonder why in the hell these two Senators cannot see nor count.

[FBaggins]

3. With Breyer retiring - I hope the "Sinema and Manchin might as well be Republicans" crowd will STFU

nt

[JohnSJ]

4. no kidding. That is why I was very happy with the personal attacks toward them. Disagreeing is one

thing, but doing the censure, and some threatening to primary them is a dangerous strategy

[Cuthbert Allgood]

12. There will be no Biden appointment to the bench.

That's my guess.

[JohnSJ]

20. We have the majority, and the republicans have changed the rules on judicial appointments to suit

their fancy, we can do the same thing.

[Demsrule86]

22. Your prediction is wrong...all of Biden's judges have been seated.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

25. You don't think there is anything different about a SCOTUS appointment

that will make the Republicans play dirty?

[FBaggins]

28. "Play dirty" how?

This comes down to only whether Biden can keep all 50 Democrats on the reservation or not. Republicans can't do anything but slow things down by days/weeks. They can't block a nominee.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

30. Committees are 50/50 as per agreement with Schumer

They can stop the nominee from getting out of committee and then, when brought to the floor, it isn't a nomination and can be filibustered.

[aocommunalpunch]

6. Good gawd. Let's continue to be terrified of EVER saying an unkind word to these people.

Just put them in charge officially and get this charade the FUCK OVER WITH ALREADY.

[Mad_Machine76]

15. +1

[Demsrule86]

21. We have a 50 50 Senate, gerrymandering in the house and a right wing court...maybe some

should have voted for the Democratic nominee in 16...and yeah there is no point in attacking either Sinema or Manchin...we must have them. I suggest you look at the Senate map in 22 and 24 with a realistic viewpoint and please check out where we have opportunities...slim pickings.

[JohnSJ]

24. FFS. With a 50-50 Senate, how about working to gain more seats in the Senate in the midterms

to make Manchin and Sinema irrelevant instead

It isn't about being terrified, it is about being realistic.

Biden made 42 judicial appointments in his first year, and that was with BOTH Manchin and Sinema.

What has fucked over more than manchin and sinema has been those self-identifed progressives who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2000 and 2016.

[a kennedy]

7. and again there will not be one damn Repub we can count on for a confirmation vote??

🤬 🤬

[Micronova]

38. Not so fast

Most trumpefarians hate Mitt Rmoney. He's a possible turncoat, probably just have to funnel him some money.

[a kennedy]

42. Say, you're new here right?? Not putting to much into what you have to say.....

just saying…… 😝

[onenote]

44. Romney voted against Jackson

I don't see him switching.
The likely R votes are Collins and Murkowski, especially if it is Jackson (who both of them voted to confirm last June).

[agingdem]

8. a couple of things..

this is Sinema's last best chance to resurrect her political career if and only if she votes Yes on Biden's Supreme Court nominee...Manchin is different...he is a wealthy sanctimonious elitist, loyal only to his donors...that he was called out for his BBB and voting rights bullshit pisses him off....afterall, don't you know who he is?!...he's more powerful than the president of the United States..with just one NO vote he can derail the Biden's agenda..here's hoping this very little man with an overblown ego has a moment of conscience and votes YES on the nominee...not holding my breath...

[JohnSJ]

13. That is what you get with a 50-50 Senate, which is why the best strategy would have been to work to

gain more seats in the Senate to make them irrelevant, rather than doing censuring, personal attacks, etc.

It is taking an unnecessary risk

[Demsrule86]

19. I agree...It is stupid to attack those you must keep in office and in the caucus.

[agingdem]

23. so we don't hold Manchin and Sinema accountable

for going against the will of the people because maybe Biden gets a SCOTUS nominee?...gee whiz, if only the Terrible Two hadn't hit every media outlet "explaining" their No vote, blaming Biden for not kissing ass...if only Klain hadn't hurt Manchin's tender little feelings, maybe, just maybe, Manchin would find some time in his busy schedule of pandering to his donors, ferrying his riverboat, driving his Maserati, and entertaining Mitch to take a call from the President of the United States...at least this time, unlike Garland, the SCOTUS nomination will reach the floor of the Senate...

[JohnSJ]

26. You hold them accountable by electing more DEMOCRATS to the Senate in the midterms, which will make

them IRRELEVANT.

[FBaggins]

33. I suppose it depends on what you mean by "hold accountable"

And what price you are willing to pay to accomplish it.

[agingdem]

45. maybe accountable is not the right word but

is it ok for Sinema to dam up BBB and vote no on a filibuster carve-out for the voting rights bill without some kind of push back?...or do we ignore her ridiculous theatrics as we would a 5 year old that gets caught putting lipstick on the family dog, in hopes that she has an adult moment and does the right thing?...I know we Dems have a habit of eating our own but Sinema is no Barbara Jordan or Bella Abzug...she's a pathologically self absorbed cartoon character...and she shames all of us...

[mcar]

10. They have voted aye for all of Biden's judicial nominees

His SCOTUS nominee will no doubt be from among those who were confirmed in 2021. There is no reason to suspect that they won't support the pick.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

11. The Republicans will block any appointment

Are we thinking they won't?

[Demsrule86]

18. They can't. There is no 60 vote requirement for SCOTUS

[Cuthbert Allgood]

29. They can stop it from getting out of committee.

Then when it's brought to the floor, it can be filibustered.

[ibegurpard]

27. They can't

They nuked the filibuster for Supreme Court justices

[Cuthbert Allgood]

32. They can. They can stop it from getting out of committee.

[FBaggins]

34. No. They can't

The power-sharing agreement allows things that get stuck in committee to be pulled to the full Senate by a majority vote.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

35. It's a motion to discharge then and not a nomination.

Hence it can be filibustered.

[FBaggins]

36. Nope

Debate is limited to four hours and cannot include any other motions, points of order, or amendments.

[onenote]

43. For the umpeenth time, that's incorrect.

A motion to discharge a nomination requires only a simple majority. I've posted these examples before.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1171/vote_117_1_00462.htm

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1171/vote_117_1_00161.htm

[Demsrule86]

17. They won't.

[In It to Win It]

31. I don't think they will. That's all they've been good for is judicial confirmations

[lame54]

37. You just gave her an out...

If she up and double agents again it's not the fault of those who called her out the last time

[JohnSJ]

39. You mean I personally gave her "an out"? GEE, I am more powerful than I realized. I thought I was

just posting a comment to a forum. I sure didn't realize that I had this kind of power

[lame54]

40. Now you know...

Wield it wisely, Grasshopper

[JohnSJ]

41. Thanks