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JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:28 PM Jan 2022

A "Sovereign Citizen" is travelling cross country with no license

Last edited Thu Jan 27, 2022, 01:50 AM - Edit history (2)

Just begging to be pulled over so he can prove he doesn't need a license or plates on his car...er "wagon".

I've heard of these people before, but this guy wants to be made into an example:

Yes, Sovereign Citizens, You Do Need A Driver's License
And registration, and car insurance, and the ability to adhere to basic traffic laws

ByErin Marquis

A urine-drinking anti-COVID-19 activist is currently driving across the country with the intention of making a citizen’s arrest of every Democratic governor while warning Americans about the “bio-weapon” hiding in the vaccine. Are you ready for the really crazy part? He’s doing it without a driver’s license.


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“You only drive if you are committing commerce,” Key added. “The only people that need a driver’s license are truck drivers, Uber drivers, FedEx drivers, but if you understand your constitutional rights, you have the ‘life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.’”

The anti-vax leader, who swears by drinking copious amounts of his own urine, added: “I am a free man living on the land.” “There is no crime,” he said when asked about the possibility of police pulling him over and asking for a driver’s license. In the United States, where Key is “traveling,” one must have a valid driver’s license to operate a motor vehicle.

So what the heck is the reason Key thinks the average Joe doesn’t need a driver’s license? It has to do with a movement called sovereign citizenship, adherents of which use fake legal gobbledygook and flawed logic to claim they don’t need to follow certain inconvenient state or federal laws. Here’s how the University of North Carolina’s School of Government defines a sovereign citizen:

Continued here via Jalonik:
https://jalopnik.com/yes-sovereign-citizens-you-do-need-a-drivers-license-1848423810


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A "Sovereign Citizen" is travelling cross country with no license (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Jan 2022 OP
Jails and prisons are full of fools. There's always room for one more. nt abqtommy Jan 2022 #1
Why do I have to drive on the right side of the road, anyways? OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2022 #2
Thus the "opposition". denbot Jan 2022 #3
Freedumb! DBoon Jan 2022 #4
Wow! He has opened my eyes! I now know the truth about everything! dchill Jan 2022 #5
If someone robs him, who does he call? keithbvadu2 Jan 2022 #6
Denver Boots were made for guys like these Vogon_Glory Jan 2022 #7
Every "Sovereign Citizen" is an illegal alien. In It to Win It Jan 2022 #8
Anyone who drinks "copious" amounts of his own urine... luv2fly Jan 2022 #9
I hope he goes through Ohio. roamer65 Jan 2022 #10
Trust me. Ohio has plenty of sovereign citizens. Ms. Toad Jan 2022 #22
Why didn't the sovereign citizen build his own highways? Goodheart Jan 2022 #11
is he driving a Chevy Malibu? DBoon Jan 2022 #12
My, my, my. Solly Mack Jan 2022 #13
Bet he is not paying income taxes as well. IRS will know what to do with him. andym Jan 2022 #14
Sovereign citizens are way beyond libertarians. I know a couple of these niyad Jan 2022 #17
Ha. A Moorish Sovereign Citizen near me... Captain Zero Jan 2022 #23
OK, he can "travel" by walking, jumping or crawling on his hands and knees. LastDemocratInSC Jan 2022 #15
A lawyer was talking to a s-c client... ret5hd Jan 2022 #16
I doubt it is copious enough. He needs people to volunteer their urine. LiberalFighter Jan 2022 #18
Not only drinks his own urine, apparently also eats his own shit. Midnight Writer Jan 2022 #19
the sewage has llashram Jan 2022 #20
If he drinks bleach with that ammonia in the tummy.... Baked Potato Jan 2022 #21
If he understood his "constitutional rights," he'd know Buns_of_Fire Jan 2022 #24
Sounds pretty jerky to me. calimary Jan 2022 #25

OAITW r.2.0

(24,449 posts)
2. Why do I have to drive on the right side of the road, anyways?
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:34 PM
Jan 2022

I like the left side,,,,who decided what side to drive on and where is it in the Constitution? Nobody asked me!

keithbvadu2

(36,768 posts)
6. If someone robs him, who does he call?
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:38 PM
Jan 2022

If someone robs him, who does he call?

To enforce inapplicable laws?

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
7. Denver Boots were made for guys like these
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:39 PM
Jan 2022

If this guy wants to travel without using a public conveyance, he can walk, bicycle, ride a horse or pogo-stick.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
9. Anyone who drinks "copious" amounts of his own urine...
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:44 PM
Jan 2022

... has a significant problem and needs to be detained on a 72-hour hold during which time he should be evaluated.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
10. I hope he goes through Ohio.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:46 PM
Jan 2022

That’s where his little parade will end for sure.

Ohio Highway Patrol don’t play around with this kinda shit.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
22. Trust me. Ohio has plenty of sovereign citizens.
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 01:40 AM
Jan 2022

I've had to draft judicial opinions responding to this nonsense. Unfortunately, they have just enough grains of real law to require copious amounts of research and time to smack down.

DBoon

(22,354 posts)
12. is he driving a Chevy Malibu?
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:48 PM
Jan 2022

are there radioactive space aliens in the trunk?

Has someone paid repo man a lot of money to take this car?

andym

(5,443 posts)
14. Bet he is not paying income taxes as well. IRS will know what to do with him.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:50 PM
Jan 2022

He seems to be a libertarian conspiracy theorist.

niyad

(113,257 posts)
17. Sovereign citizens are way beyond libertarians. I know a couple of these
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 12:29 AM
Jan 2022

whack jobs, although they are not quite as bad as the moorish sovereign citizen bunch. So far at least, they have not commandeered other people's houses.

Captain Zero

(6,801 posts)
23. Ha. A Moorish Sovereign Citizen near me...
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 01:51 AM
Jan 2022

With a Moorish Sovereign Citizen plate on his 1977 Jaguar always seems to back his car into the parking spots at the apartment complex. Would that be because he doesn't want police patrols to see that plate?

Kinda pisses me off as a taxpayer, he's avoiding the road use taxes that come out of a plate fee. So he's 'traveling' the roads on my road taxes that I and others pay. I guess he's the 'smart businessman' though as TFG claims.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
15. OK, he can "travel" by walking, jumping or crawling on his hands and knees.
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 12:10 AM
Jan 2022

But if he's going to participate in the privilege of driving on the roads he must follow the laws that everybody else does. It's not hard and it's not a burden for a reasonable person.

ret5hd

(20,489 posts)
16. A lawyer was talking to a s-c client...
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 12:15 AM
Jan 2022

the client wanting to fight every charge rights rights blah blah etc

The lawyer looked at him and said something like:
Let’s assume you are 100% correct…on everything. So what? There’s a judge, a bailiff, a jailer, jail guards, hundreds of cops, etc etc THAT DON’T GIVE A FUCK! You will go to jail. Today. And the next. And next. The appeals judge don’t give a fuck. The Supreme Court don’t give a fuck. You will stay in jail. So what do you want to do…pay your fine or go to jail?

The way I heard it, he chose to pay the fine.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,174 posts)
24. If he understood his "constitutional rights," he'd know
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 02:39 AM
Jan 2022

that the phrase "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution, which wouldn't apply to him anyway because he is filled with FREEDUM (along with some other stuff).

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