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None of these abortion laws are written by people who become pregnant. (Original Post) kpete Jan 2022 OP
Abortion is, in fact, a form of birth control. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2022 #1
+1000 Johnny2X2X Jan 2022 #4
Yep, it creates a worthy/unworthy moral judgment when there doesn't need to be one. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2022 #6
Mainly by old white men . . .. Lovie777 Jan 2022 #2
Sure, those are good reasons to keep it legal. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2022 #3
And before Roe, so many young and not-so-young women Bettie Jan 2022 #5
Tragic scenarios are meant to appeal to people who simply don't give a fuck if Solly Mack Jan 2022 #7

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,316 posts)
1. Abortion is, in fact, a form of birth control.
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 09:53 AM
Jan 2022

People get abortions so they don't give birth. The majority of people who get abortions are also on another form of birth control, which failed in some way.

Finally, focusing on the most gruesome and heartbreaking cases when abortion is needed creates the impression that we need abortion *only* for those cases and erases the fact that getting an abortion is an unpleasant but routine health-care procedure that most people don't agonize over when the decision comes to them.

Johnny2X2X

(19,024 posts)
4. +1000
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 10:22 AM
Jan 2022

Abortion is a right, and it's a women's choice whether or not to terminate a pregnancy. I agree that the focus on the special cases makes it seem like those are the cases we should be basing the law on instead of the law being based on individual citizens having control of their own bodies.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,490 posts)
3. Sure, those are good reasons to keep it legal.
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 10:14 AM
Jan 2022

But having one just because you don’t want to be pregnant is as a legitimate as any of those extreme examples.

I don’t know that the reason matters at all.

Bettie

(16,086 posts)
5. And before Roe, so many young and not-so-young women
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 10:40 AM
Jan 2022

died from botched abortions.

The fact is, making it illegal won't end abortion, it will push it underground, ending only the safe, legal ones.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
7. Tragic scenarios are meant to appeal to people who simply don't give a fuck if
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 10:47 AM
Jan 2022

your life is in danger. If your fetus isn't viable. If your father, brother, uncle, cousin, neighbor, teacher, stranger raped you.

They don't care.

It's about punishing and controlling women.

If your life is in danger, they just think you did something wrong to make it that way. Or their fallback - "It's God's will".

If the fetus isn't viable - they think you did something wrong to cause that. Or their fallback - "It's God's will".

These are the same people that blame the rape victim for getting raped. What were you wearing? Were you drinking? Why were you out so late? And on and on and on. Or their fallbacks - "It's God's will" and, in the case of rape, the hateful and idiotic - "Don't blame the baby".

A woman doesn't owe anyone an explanation for having an abortion.

And she for damn sure doesn't need a tragic event to justify having an abortion.

It's her life that matters.

Hers.











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