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Barry Manilow is joining Neil Young in leaving Spotify (Original Post) FelineOverlord Jan 2022 OP
Good for him. blueinredohio Jan 2022 #1
Exactly! RockCreek Jan 2022 #12
Agreed! Sherman A1 Jan 2022 #13
Peter Frampton too. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #27
Manilow says "NO".. Cha Jan 2022 #46
The only easy way to leave @Spotify is L. Coyote Jan 2022 #49
"Swarmed", eh? TY Rt Cha Jan 2022 #51
They will regret this attention. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #54
As they should.. Wow.. I'd Cha Jan 2022 #55
Stock price: L. Coyote Jan 2022 #57
Wow.. Good but sad Cha Jan 2022 #58
Whoa.. ".. Lost $4 Billion this Week! Cha Jan 2022 #59
Yes Peter, We feel like you do Zambero Jan 2022 #56
Joni Mitchell too. luvtheGWN Jan 2022 #64
Good. But let's see some real powerhouses vote with their feet: Beyonc etc. LuckyLib Jan 2022 #2
This geardaddy Jan 2022 #7
Manilow is not exactly obscure localroger Jan 2022 #30
I think you are thinking of Neil Diamond with the America song. NT cinematicdiversions Jan 2022 #33
Yep -- well, neither of them is really obscure /nt localroger Jan 2022 #37
This is from Manilow.. Cha Jan 2022 #47
Why not create a better music service? rockfordfile Jan 2022 #3
Better ones are out there, nothing special or great about Spotify TeslaNova Jan 2022 #28
So far now, I've only heard about Manilow and Nickleback joining Neil. 70sEraVet Jan 2022 #4
I don't think Nickelback has AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2022 #5
Morning sip meme (no graphic) Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2022 #17
Peter Frampton has joined Neil and Barry nt AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2022 #8
The labels need to get involved here RainCaster Jan 2022 #6
Seen on FB, "Neil Young's really gonna miss that $1.37 he gets from Spotify every month." -nt CrispyQ Jan 2022 #9
Yeah, Neil's Taking A Principle'd Stand Here, But... GB_RN Jan 2022 #10
Sirius XM has picked Neil up and will be playing his music. We can hope they help Manilow too. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2022 #16
Unfortunately The Grand Illuminist Jan 2022 #25
Please Sirius XM is much worse than Spotify. nt cinematicdiversions Jan 2022 #36
Other services are picking up Neil Young too Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2022 #41
You act like thats a bad thing TeslaNova Jan 2022 #29
I'm Not Sure You Read What I Wrote... GB_RN Jan 2022 #32
Your "third rate streamer" sold half his catalogue for 40-50 million bucks. Not bad for "third rate" Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2022 #42
Oi... GB_RN Jan 2022 #43
according to this article, it is the label that needs to get the artist pulled orleans Jan 2022 #21
Sometimes it just takes one person to be the first to exit, & others realize they don't have to stay Hekate Jan 2022 #11
Much respect Mr Manilow. StarryNite Jan 2022 #14
Bravo Barry TuxedoKat Jan 2022 #15
Consumers cancelling Spotify is the other end of the equation Sherman A1 Jan 2022 #40
You mean the Republican asshat Barry Manilow? BradBo Jan 2022 #18
What are you talking about? Manilow has been a liberal Democrat for years AZLD4Candidate Jan 2022 #35
Barry Manilow is a life-long liberal. n/t Greybnk48 Jan 2022 #39
Oh Mandy. johnthewoodworker Jan 2022 #19
For me, this is the best thing BM has ever done. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2022 #20
And me. Wasn't a Manilow fan but I DO appreciate him now. calimary Jan 2022 #26
I'll drink to that! BobTheSubgenius Jan 2022 #67
Barry Manilow and Neil Young....talk about an odd couple...more power to them ashredux Jan 2022 #22
A lot of artists are going to NFTS YoshidaYui Jan 2022 #23
Good for him. I hope Spotify ends up with Ted Nugent and Joe Rogan. Vinca Jan 2022 #24
Looks like he made it peppertree Jan 2022 #31
+1 BeckyDem Jan 2022 #34
Good man! We need a few more musical icons and powerhouses like these two Greybnk48 Jan 2022 #38
Well maybe not DashOneBravo Jan 2022 #44
There's a Tweet from Manilow that Cha Jan 2022 #45
fake news, and not the first time Amy Siskind has spread bullshit on Twitter Celerity Jan 2022 #48
Siskind definitely sends up major red flags. I always double check anything she asserts... FreepFryer Jan 2022 #63
This needs to be pulled. It's false. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2022 #50
Years ago, I went to a Barry Manilow concert with my brother. He was great, performed several encores Rhiannon12866 Jan 2022 #52
Manilow's disclaimer tweet ificandream Jan 2022 #53
Lots of outlets are reporting it's not true. Duppers Jan 2022 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author DesertGarden Jan 2022 #66
And Joni Mitchell BlueMTexpat Jan 2022 #61
@Spotify is to remove your credit card payments in profile settings. They are getting swarmed and Trueblue1968 Jan 2022 #62
If Taylor Swift applied pressure on Spotify... OneGrassRoot Jan 2022 #65
What's the average age of the Spotify user? Polybius Jan 2022 #68

Cha

(296,679 posts)
55. As they should.. Wow.. I'd
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 10:03 PM
Jan 2022

never even heard of "Spotify" before Neil Young brought it to my attention.. but I don't get out much.

Brilliant Tweet by Lovin Lyrics.. Rt TY!

Cha

(296,679 posts)
58. Wow.. Good but sad
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 11:50 PM
Jan 2022

for those interested in Not seeing the price fall so steadily

May it Continue!

Rt TY!

localroger

(3,617 posts)
30. Manilow is not exactly obscure
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 02:22 PM
Jan 2022

His style may be a bit dated but his catalog is still extremely popular. And one of his most famous songs, "America," is an anthem to the opportunities provided by immigration.

AZSkiffyGeek

(10,942 posts)
5. I don't think Nickelback has
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 11:57 AM
Jan 2022

I think there was a joke meme going around about Spotify could keep Nickelback, but I don't know that they've actually announced they were pulling their music.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,925 posts)
17. Morning sip meme (no graphic)
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 12:51 PM
Jan 2022



𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓔𝓪𝓻𝓵 𝓸𝓯 𝓡𝓪𝓶
@The_Earl_of_Ram
Antivaxxers are so triggered about folks canceling Spotify they nearly spit out their morning sip of piss.
Jan 28, 2022·Twitter for Android

RainCaster

(10,792 posts)
6. The labels need to get involved here
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 12:03 PM
Jan 2022

Barry and Neil have little appeal to the ages that are the base of Spotify. Until the hip hop artists step up, this won't affect Spotify.

GB_RN

(2,317 posts)
10. Yeah, Neil's Taking A Principle'd Stand Here, But...
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 12:22 PM
Jan 2022

He's not exactly losing a lot of money from this. A lot of his music was already pulled from Spotify a while back, IIRC. Then there's the fact that Spotify doesn't exactly pay much in terms of royalties per play, either. It takes a LOT of song streams for artists to make any kind of money off of Spotify, and most artists don't get that kind of bandwidth from Spotify.

I'm not saying he's doing the wrong thing, just that one way or the other, it's not really going to affect his bottom line much.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,925 posts)
41. Other services are picking up Neil Young too
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 03:39 PM
Jan 2022

https://www.wsj.com/articles/neil-youngs-radio-channel-on-siriusxm-is-revived-after-spotify-removal-11643321014

Neil Young’s Radio Channel on SiriusXM Is Revived After Spotify Removal
After Spotify refused to cut Joe Rogan’s lucrative podcast, Sirius re-upped with Mr. Young; other streamers promote the folk-rocker


While he said he is losing out on 60% of his streaming income, the market is adjusting as other services take steps to capitalize on courting the folk-rock singer and his loyal listeners. The dustup drew supporters and detractors to social media voicing their views on Mr. Young and Spotify.


...

In another post on his website Wednesday, Mr. Young made a plug for other services, pointing to Amazon Music, Apple Music and Qobuz, which “present my music today in all its high-resolution glory—the way it is intended to be heard.”

Other streaming services this week promoted that they carried Mr. Young’s music.

Hi-fi streaming service Tidal, which Mr Young has championed for its sound quality, retweeted a fan’s observation: “Love that Neil Young is trending on Tidal” and then shared a meme welcoming fresh recruits.


GB_RN

(2,317 posts)
32. I'm Not Sure You Read What I Wrote...
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 02:34 PM
Jan 2022

I said that he wasn't doing the wrong thing. I also said that him having his music pulled isn't exactly costing him a whole lot in terms of his protest against Joe Rogan. I did NOT say, nor did I even imply what he's doing is a bad thing.

But, just to clarify things, so that there's no further confusion: Spotify isn't going to give two shits about what amounts to a third rate streamer asking to have his music pulled over Joe Rogan's lying and BS'ing. Nor will they give a damn until their big money makers start protesting or enough people start cancelling subscriptions. If Young's protest marks the start of a trend that ultimately gets Rogan's show yanked, all well and good. However, I have a feeling that it's going to be a lot nothing, at least in terms of the artists: Those artists who actually do make money off of Spotify aren't going to risk their royalties in protest. As far as Spotify and Joe Rogan are concerned, the little bit of controversy stirred up by Young will just serve as free advertising for them ("No such thing as bad press", and all that).

GB_RN

(2,317 posts)
43. Oi...
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 04:24 PM
Jan 2022

I'm well aware of what he sold his music catalog rights for. My comment wasn't intended a personal hit on him or on his fans: I didn't call him a "third-rate musician".

My comment was simply to point out that he's not a top tier, nor even second tier streamer, as far as Spotify's streaming service is concerned. If he were, they wouldn't have dropped him like a hot potato.

I'm done here.

orleans

(34,039 posts)
21. according to this article, it is the label that needs to get the artist pulled
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 01:34 PM
Jan 2022

neil young is on warner brothers
manilow is on columbia

"In Removing Neil Young’s Music, Spotify Didn’t Need to Listen to the Artist, but Did Have to Heed His Label"
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/removing-neil-young-music-spotify-233318840.html

Hekate

(90,496 posts)
11. Sometimes it just takes one person to be the first to exit, & others realize they don't have to stay
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 12:27 PM
Jan 2022

Thanks, Neil Young for being the first. Thanks, Barry Manilow for heading for the exit door right behind him.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
40. Consumers cancelling Spotify is the other end of the equation
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 03:23 PM
Jan 2022

The more pressure exerted on their income the better. It is after all a for profit service, no profit, no service.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,639 posts)
35. What are you talking about? Manilow has been a liberal Democrat for years
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 02:43 PM
Jan 2022

He has some libertarian views, but most liberals have that too. Libertarians, at least the ones I've met, didn't believe that gay marriage should not illegal and ending the drug war should happen immediately.

Those are the only two things I truly agree with libertarians on.

https://hollowverse.com/barry-manilow

BobTheSubgenius

(11,557 posts)
20. For me, this is the best thing BM has ever done.
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 01:05 PM
Jan 2022

Although, I have to leave room for his acts of kindness that might not be known. His message to John Pavlovitz doesn't seem like it would be a one-off.

YoshidaYui

(41,817 posts)
23. A lot of artists are going to NFTS
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 01:47 PM
Jan 2022

with the chance to manage their own careers, and how much money they can sell a song for, an investment.

Greybnk48

(10,161 posts)
38. Good man! We need a few more musical icons and powerhouses like these two
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 03:20 PM
Jan 2022

to show people what the MAJORITY wants.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
63. Siskind definitely sends up major red flags. I always double check anything she asserts...
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 07:18 AM
Jan 2022

...fact isn’t always her forte.

“Siskind Voted for McCain / Palin rather than Obama / Biden”

Rhiannon12866

(204,471 posts)
52. Years ago, I went to a Barry Manilow concert with my brother. He was great, performed several encores
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 09:53 PM
Jan 2022

Awhile after that, my parents just happened to run into him and his band while in Britain. He was new to them there at the time and weren't recognized yet(!), but my mother did and stopped to talk to him, said her kids had seen his concert in the States. They were very nice, seemed pleased to be recognized, and they posed for a couple of photos.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
60. Lots of outlets are reporting it's not true.
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 04:06 AM
Jan 2022

Unless he says it's true, I'm not believing he left Spotify.

Response to ificandream (Reply #53)

Trueblue1968

(17,184 posts)
62. @Spotify is to remove your credit card payments in profile settings. They are getting swarmed and
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 07:15 AM
Jan 2022

@Spotify is to remove your credit card payments in profile settings.
They are getting swarmed and they will not help you cancel. #cancelspotify

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
65. If Taylor Swift applied pressure on Spotify...
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 09:43 AM
Jan 2022

I bet they'd cave. I think they'd rather have her than Rogan.

Polybius

(15,309 posts)
68. What's the average age of the Spotify user?
Sat Jan 29, 2022, 02:16 PM
Jan 2022

Aren't they mostly under 40? If yes, I don't know how much of an impact this will have.

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