Did anyone watch the J/6 Committee interviews on Nicolle Wallace's show?

[kentuck]

It was quite enlightening.

The interviews with Dan Goldman and Betsy Woodruff, with the guidance of Nicolle Wallace, were very informative, in the way they have put the plot together. Who told them and why were the electors told to sign fake elector ballots?

They put together the plot very effectively. They discussed whether or not Rudy Giuliani did it by himself or whether he was informed by Donald Trump?

The interview with Zoe Lofgen indicated that the Committee probably has a grasp on how the entire conspiracy has gone down. They know how it all happened.

Also, that there is a better chance to get information from these subpoenaed electoral workers than from someone higher up the chain. One had already agreed to testify.

The pieces of the puzzle are coming together rather quickly.

Most of the crumbs lead to the door of the disgraced ex-President.

[leftieNanner]

1. I doubt whether TFG is smart enough

to come up with the fake electors scheme on his own.

But I can easily be convinced that he embraced the idea when someone floated it out there.

One of those fakers will squeal to save themselves.

[monkeyman1]

6. Clark & a whole bunch of other's did & TFG signed off on it !! TFG can't even tie his shoes!!

[soldierant]

19. Exactly.

What's that old ptinciple? Respondeat superior? Dammit, trump** would still be responsible even if Giuliani didn't tell him (which is inconceivanble.)

[spanone]

2. bet the slobfather was the godfather.....

[Evolve Dammit]

3. May it lead to locking his orange ass up, and anyone else who orchestrated this coup attempt.

[justhanginon]

22. I would love to see him arrested and perp walked out of one of his rallies.

I know it is only a dream but what the hell, why not dream big?

[agingdem]

24. I want that orange cretin found guilty in all civil suits..

stripped of his wealth...property, businesses, investments..all confiscated and sold..and then I want him criminally indicted, forced to wear an ankle tracking device, a court order confining him to his home and prohibiting any media contact...I want his trial televised and if he attempts to speak, I want him muzzled..I want him found guilty on multiple counts and then sentenced to Rikers Island to serve out a life sentence with no chance of parole...now that a dream!!!!

[Evolve Dammit]

25. No-knock late night FBI raid at MAGATLago would be sweet

[L. Coyote]

4. VIDEO:

National correspondent for Politico Betsy Woodruff Swan discusses her new reporting on the Trump documents the January 6th committee is receiving, including a draft executive order that would have allowed the Department of Defense to seize voting machines.

[kentuck]

5. Would they have confiscated the voting machines before or after Pence declared Trump the winner?

If they were going to accept the alternate "fake" ballots, then it would have made sense to confiscate the real ballots so no one could ever question whether or not Trump actually won the election. A very elaborate conspiracy worthy of several years of confinement.

[L. Coyote]

7. Before, and a compliant Sec. of Defense would say they were rigged.

It would all have been dressed up as a national security event, no doubt, with apparent distancing of the White House. Just seizing them would have been enough for the true believers to say they were rigged. Otherwise, why would they seize them, right?

[kentuck]

8. Then they would be out of sight and out of mind...

...they would hope.

Stop the Steal was a dare.

[kentuck]

9. Here is the video that puts it together.

Why did they need seven states? Because they were so far behind, they needed to take that many states from Biden in order to give Trump a majority of the electoral votes...

[gab13by13]

10. A group of seditionists

went straight to the Parliamentarians office and ransacked it looking for the ballots. Those ballots would have disappeared and the fake ballots would have appeared.

Smart thinking aides grabbed the ballots before fleeing.

[Emile]

11. The sooner they arrest these traitors, the more they'll talk.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

12. I really like Nicole Wallace

Link to tweet

[kentuck]

13. Nicolle asked why they needed seven states??

It was simple math.

Biden won the electoral vote 306 to 232.

So, if we take the seven states with the "fake" electors:

AZ - 11
GA - 16
NM - 5
NV - 6
PA - 20
WI - 10
MI - 16
_______
84 Voila!

Just enough to give Biden 222 electoral votes and Trump 232 electoral votes!

Trump could claim he legitimately won the election with more electoral votes than Biden.

Then he could sign the EO and confiscate the voting machines in those states and nobody would ever know the truth.

[ProfessorGAC]

14. Hold On Kentuck!

If Biden's total went down 84, the tally for TFG would go up 84.
Unless the plan was to wholly invalidate those states' votes, they didn't need 84 votes.
They only need 43 to flip. It's not clear to me if they were trying to flip or nullify.
If it were to flip, I think seven starts were chosen, hoping to win the game on enough of them to flip 43.
If they were attempting to nullify 7 states, then yes, 84 were needed.
But, if they were trying to nullify, why would they need fake electors?

[kentuck]

16. The "fake" electors were for the benefit of Mike Pence..

In my opinion, it is important to understand which came first?

When Pence did not give the "fake" electors to Trump, it was then that they put this part of the plan into action. Perhaps they believed the electoral votes from those states would be put into an "undecided" column or the state legislatures would name new electors?

Either way, Trump would win the vote.

Why would NM and NV be added to the states? Together they had 11 electoral votes, which would give Biden one more electoral vote than Trump. Hmmmm...

This was a very elaborate plot to overthrow our government.

[Trumpdumper]

20. Math fix

They needed 37 to make it a tie (269-269) or 38 to win (270-268).

[kentuck]

23. I do not think they believed they were going to take Biden's states and give them to Trump...

That would be too controversial.

So they would set them aside, if the state legislatures would not agree to give them to the losing candidate in the race.

Then they would confiscate the voting machines with an executive order. And hide the ballots in question.

There is an order in which these things happened.

Most of it hinged on whether or not Mike Pence certified the states for Trump or sent them back to the state legislatures?

The militias and the OathKeepers, with their weapons, were part of the plot, in my opinion. They were the last resort.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

15. Here is the interview with Zoe Loftgen

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=ecY486UuZs0i5bb_CyEMMQ

[kentuck]

17. Indeed!

They know.

[Mr. Ected]

18. Trump never sweats the details. He demands a particular result and leaves it to his lackies

To fill in the blanks.

So Trump ordered this, damned right he ordered this, like a mob boss would order a hit.

[DallasNE]

21. Can't Throw Caution To The Wind

These lower-level people are going to read off the responses and tell the J6 Committee what they want to hear so it must be carefully cross-checked against the hard evidence in hand. Just sayin...

[kentuck]

26. I think you are right.

They need to be very cautious in this part of the investigation. They should do it slowly and carefully.

[tikka]

27. Cleta Michell's fingerprints are probably all over this.

She was on TFG's phone call to Raffenberger about the Georgia totals.