Mon Feb 7, 2022, 02:17 PM
drray23 (6,944 posts)
The Trump strategy to get away with crimes
Commit so many infractions that you overwhelm the system. Clog it by filling frivolous appeals.
Go from one scandal to another one by constantly spewing bullshit to keep the media off balance. The poor DOJ and 1/6 committee keep having to issue more subpoena, talk to more witnesses because Trump and his crew raised the bar to a level that is order of magnitudes worse than Watergate. Hopefully this will run to an end eventually and Trump will be caught. This strategy has worked all his life so far.
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drray23 | Feb 2022 | OP |
Walleye | Feb 2022 | #1 | |
Orrex | Feb 2022 | #2 | |
Mr.Bill | Feb 2022 | #14 | |
lees1975 | Feb 2022 | #22 | |
Probatim | Feb 2022 | #26 | |
Pinback | Feb 2022 | #33 | |
LastLiberal in PalmSprings | Feb 2022 | #36 | |
TreasonousBastard | Feb 2022 | #3 | |
milestogo | Feb 2022 | #4 | |
Probatim | Feb 2022 | #27 | |
Gregory Peccary | Feb 2022 | #35 | |
Baked Potato | Feb 2022 | #5 | |
SleeplessinSoCal | Feb 2022 | #6 | |
Moostache | Feb 2022 | #24 | |
SleeplessinSoCal | Feb 2022 | #34 | |
Norbert | Feb 2022 | #7 | |
Qutzupalotl | Feb 2022 | #8 | |
budkin | Feb 2022 | #9 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Feb 2022 | #10 | |
SeattleVet | Feb 2022 | #11 | |
spanone | Feb 2022 | #12 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Feb 2022 | #13 | |
sop | Feb 2022 | #15 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Feb 2022 | #16 | |
sop | Feb 2022 | #20 | |
Paladin | Feb 2022 | #17 | |
thesquanderer | Feb 2022 | #18 | |
NoMoreRepugs | Feb 2022 | #19 | |
Moostache | Feb 2022 | #28 | |
calimary | Feb 2022 | #21 | |
gab13by13 | Feb 2022 | #23 | |
Nululu | Feb 2022 | #25 | |
Pepsidog | Feb 2022 | #29 | |
gab13by13 | Feb 2022 | #30 | |
slumcamper | Feb 2022 | #31 | |
AZLD4Candidate | Feb 2022 | #32 | |
kairos12 | Feb 2022 | #37 |
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 02:31 PM
Walleye (21,787 posts)
1. And lie, lie, lie
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 02:35 PM
Orrex (62,064 posts)
2. It really is a shame that he hasn't yet suffered a massive, skull-popping stroke.
Response to Orrex (Reply #2)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 03:39 PM
Mr.Bill (19,652 posts)
14. I don't think he has the emotional capacity
to be stressed about anything.
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Response to Orrex (Reply #2)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:17 PM
lees1975 (2,332 posts)
22. A stroke requires a brain...
Response to lees1975 (Reply #22)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:23 PM
Probatim (1,640 posts)
26. And a heart...
Response to Probatim (Reply #26)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 05:02 PM
Pinback (11,542 posts)
33. And courage!
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Response to Orrex (Reply #2)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 07:38 PM
LastLiberal in PalmSprings (12,244 posts)
36. My hope is that TFG gets a disease which totally incapacitates him.
I want him to be mentally acute, but unable to speak or move any part of his body. I want him on a ventilator for the rest of his life, being fed through a tube, and unable to get anyone to change the channel the television, which is locked on MSNBC.
Oh, and I want him to be incapable of wiping his own ass. Then I want him to have the distinction of being the former president who has lived the longest -- maybe to 101 years old. Is that too much to ask? |
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 02:42 PM
TreasonousBastard (41,907 posts)
3. If you can't dszzle them with your brilliance...
baffle them with your bullshit.
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Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 02:43 PM
milestogo (14,278 posts)
4. Delay, delay, delay.
Response to milestogo (Reply #4)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:23 PM
Probatim (1,640 posts)
27. That's the key to the political crimes.
Response to milestogo (Reply #4)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 05:18 PM
Gregory Peccary (460 posts)
35. Lather, rinse, repeat
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 02:52 PM
Baked Potato (7,211 posts)
5. And frame government as evil to
create sympathy for wrongdoers.
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Response to Baked Potato (Reply #5)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 02:57 PM
SleeplessinSoCal (7,774 posts)
6. As if the crimes weren't bad enough, he's tearing the country into pieces
Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #6)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:20 PM
Moostache (9,718 posts)
24. No...I don't give his fans that as an out.
Trump is a carnival barking narcissist of the highest order. He is nothing more than an evil W.C. Fields but more clownish and thus more evil.
People who openly support Trump's racist and authoritarian bullshit are 100% to blame for their own actions. I am not going to wait until after the war to call them out as the same people who will gleefully burn down the nation only to try to bury their uniforms and pretend later they were duped or coerced. Nuh-uh...no sale! Trump is being himself, self-absorbed, moronic and boorish. So too are his loyal peons. They are the one's tearing apart the country because they want to say someone told them it is OK to be open and free bigots and fools. |
Response to Moostache (Reply #24)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 05:03 PM
SleeplessinSoCal (7,774 posts)
34. I've been waiting for his comeuppance since the late 80s.
He needs to be the model for justice meaning "nobody is above the law" in the times of winner-take-all, 21st century America. Otherwise there will be no JUSTICE. He is plowing ahead with his model of redefining justice as not applying to him or those in his circle because he can just willfully usurp our nation of laws.
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Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 02:59 PM
Norbert (5,522 posts)
7. And what ever crimes you commit, accuse your enemy of doing the same thing
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 03:21 PM
Qutzupalotl (13,182 posts)
8. And stay in power as president for life
so you can't face consequences.
Okay, that one didn't work out. |
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 03:23 PM
budkin (6,423 posts)
9. It's worked so far!
And most likely will keep on working.
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Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 03:26 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,801 posts)
10. Why it was SO important to get him EARLY. Aides
literally started getting their resumes ready over Comey, anticipating FG's demise. His approval was at it's lowest at end of 2017. When we just blew off impeachment. Brilliant articles presented on 11-15-2017 by Steve Cohen D-TN.
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Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 03:33 PM
SeattleVet (5,211 posts)
11. He's mastered the Gish Gallop of crime.
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 03:37 PM
spanone (132,931 posts)
12. He's forever the victim. Always Persecuted.
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 03:38 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (44,189 posts)
13. Bannon called it "Flood the Zone". . . . nt
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 03:46 PM
sop (8,927 posts)
15. What's stopping authorities from focusing on one crime and prosecuting the hell out of it?
Response to sop (Reply #15)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 03:51 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,801 posts)
16. Good question. What do you think the most slam dunk
Crimes are?
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #16)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:15 PM
sop (8,927 posts)
20. His latest crime, violation of the Presidential Records Act, would be a good place to start.
And Fulton County's special grand jury investigating Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election in Georgia would be another.
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Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 03:58 PM
Paladin (26,311 posts)
17. If it's that obvious, why aren't we fucking DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT? (nt)
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:06 PM
thesquanderer (11,496 posts)
18. Another strategy of his is to do it in plain sight.
Like he couldn't have been doing anything unseemingly if he was doing it so publicly.
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Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:10 PM
NoMoreRepugs (7,739 posts)
19. Seriously - does anyone TRULY believe the SlobFather has a STRATEGY about ANYTHING?
I for one doubt he's capable of developing one.
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Response to NoMoreRepugs (Reply #19)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:24 PM
Moostache (9,718 posts)
28. He is Heath Ledger's Joker portrayal brought to life....
A true dog chasing cars (an actual insult dogs)...and he honestly doesn't have a clue what to do with one if he catches it either...
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Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:16 PM
calimary (74,075 posts)
21. And don't forget the delaying tactics.
Often he can just wait out the plaintiffs because they’ll run out of money first and will drop it or settle for pennies. In this case here and now, I bet he’s adding generous amounts of delay, anticipating that he’ll steal his way back into the White House and can just make it all go away.
I think too many people underestimate him, still. To this day. Even knowing (or conceding) what they know he’s already done and how many times and different ways he’s tried to cheat. Seems to me there’s a point where the average person would sniff “naaaaah, he wouldn’t do THAT…” because the average person would tend to have at least some basic knowledge of morals and having a conscience and obeying the law. I’d guess the average person simply wouldn’t involve themselves in so many layers of shenanigans. And certainly couldn’t afford to. And few have his kind of chutzpah. So, seems to me that would make it hard to wrap one’s mind around shady entanglements like his. Most of us simply don’t have that mentality or worldview, and/or weren’t brought up that way. And I suspect he understands that very keenly. I bet that’s how and why he’s been able to find so many patsies and pushovers throughout his lifetime. Hell, he’s not only rolled the biggest banks and lending/funding outfits in the world, he’s taken ownership of roughly half the American voting-age population. I think it comes down to simple denial. Nobody but another con artist would imagine conning people as shamelessly and recklessly and on such a colossally huge scale could recognize this. Lucky for him, everybody else, including his millions of “marks”, is probably in denial. “Naaaaaah. Couldn’t happen.” Or, as this other mom I knew who was a Republican but who was sure Roe v Wade would always remain untouchable would say, “s’not happening.” It’s not in their so-called “wheelhouse” to operate that way. Therefore, the logical extension of that is the assumption that nobody else operates that way, either. Only bad guys (and maybe Democrats and others they hate and resent). But not him. Really nice the way you’ve set this up, donald. Boatloads of chumps you’ve conned and conned and they’re so into you they keep coming up for more. He’s the modern-day P. T. Barnum, who keenly understands how many suckers are born every minute. |
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:18 PM
gab13by13 (14,766 posts)
23. To get to Trump we need to do what DOJ did for Watergate,
create a special grand jury. You can't start at the top to convict the top.
Let's look at Mark Meadows, the select committee sent a criminal referral 54 days ago. We have evidence in writing implicating Meadows in the plot to overthrow the election. Bring him before a grand jury, no excuses for executive privilege like we are going through now trying to get a conviction for contempt of Congress. Let's look at Jeffrey Clark and John Eastman, they go before the select committee and plead the 5th 100 times. Bring them both before a grand jury, stop wasting time with this executive privilege bs. We have documents that Eastman wrote on overturning the election. Clarke wanted DOJ to send out bogus notices of election fraud. The Watergate grand jury indicted numerous Nixon aides and cabinet members and named Nixon as an unindicted co-conspirator only because he was a sitting president. Executive privilege does not apply when used to hide crimes. |
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:21 PM
Nululu (720 posts)
25. Same as any other crime family. Roll them up one by one
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:40 PM
Pepsidog (5,978 posts)
29. Why can't he be indicted for Stormy Daniels campaign finance matter? It's a start.
Response to Pepsidog (Reply #29)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:49 PM
gab13by13 (14,766 posts)
30. Good idea, slam dunk case,
too late, the statute of limitations has expired.
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Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 04:49 PM
slumcamper (1,514 posts)
31. Time for a new legal strategy?
The concept of "omnibus" (as in bills) is accepted practice in lawmaking/legislation.
Given that, why not omnibus lawsuit? Wrap the entire shit-show up in a massive, single federal suit and file it in DC. Too much dicking around otherwise, and the OP is spot on. |
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 05:01 PM
AZLD4Candidate (4,227 posts)
32. Classic narcissistic, sociopathic behavior. Run and hide, attack, lie, and deflect
Response to drray23 (Original post)
Mon Feb 7, 2022, 07:56 PM
kairos12 (11,954 posts)