Looks like Nixon's White House

[slater71]

Missing logs and probably more when they really start to dig in on this. Just imagine what they could find over his four years in office. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/investigators-find-gaps-in-trump-white-house-call-logs-from-jan-6-sources-say/ar-AATHA8I?li=BBnb7Kz

[Ocelot II]

1. It's much, much worse. Nixon was an amateur.

[Caliman73]

7. No. Nixon was smarter.

Nixon's paranoia did him in. He wanted to record for his own purposes, not thinking that the tapes would see the light of day.

He did have the attitude that "if the President does it, it isn't a crime" but he was much more adept at his corruption than Trump.

Trump is a low level thug who just happened to be born to a wealthy family. Had he been born to a middle class family, or even a rich but not wealthy family, he'd be in prison or dead by now.

The only thing that has saved Trump is his family's wealth.

[Ocelot II]

8. It's true that Nixon was much smarter.

He was smart enough to conceal his crimes; if it hadn't been for Deep Throat and the tapes they probably never would been discovered. But Nixon didn't manage to corrupt almost the entire executive branch the way TFG did, and he had a much smaller and less devoted cadre of sycophants - at the end, he just had Haldeman, Ehrlichman and Mitchell. I really think this is way worse than Watergate.

[Caliman73]

11. It is definitely worse than Watergate.

Trump is thoroughly corrupt. Has been his entire life. Not sure the same could be said for Nixon. Trump has way more experience being corrupt and criminal than Nixon.

Another major difference is that while Nixon had a cadre of people, he did not have a whole party apparatus behind him NOR did he have an entire media ecosystem that was running interference and promoting the corruption as non-corrupt.

[Vinca]

2. Are you kidding? Trump and company make the Nixon years look downright noble.

[uponit7771]

3. They've had more than a year to hide shit, I pray the DOJ etc are trapping them knowing they wouold

... do illegal shit like this

[Patton French]

4. Nixon was a piker in comparison. (n/t)

[moondust]

5. Or Reagan's.

The presidency of Ronald Reagan in the United States was marked by numerous scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any president in American history.
~
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_administration_scandals

TFG's administration likely even worse.

[Kid Berwyn]

6. Chatting with Putin.

Playing some solitaire in the Raymond sense.

[Ocelot II]

9. At least Nixon wasn't playing footsie with Kosygin.

During the 1968 campaign, however, he sent his aide Anna Chennault to the South Vietnamese embassy to encourage the South Vietnamese government to withdraw from the 1968 Paris peace talks, refuse to deal with Johnson, and to tell them that if Nixon was elected they would get a much better deal. So ol' Tricky Dick was traitor-adjacent, in the sense that he intentionally tried to prolong the war in order to improve his odds of being elected.

[Kid Berwyn]

10. He was just following orders.

Like when on stage with Prescott Bush, back in the Senate days…



The Lyndon Johnson tapes: Richard Nixon's 'treason'

by David Taylor
BBC Archive On 4, 22 March 2013

Declassified tapes of President Lyndon Johnson's telephone calls provide a fresh insight into his world. Among the revelations - he planned a dramatic entry into the 1968 Democratic Convention to re-join the presidential race. And he caught Richard Nixon sabotaging the Vietnam peace talks... but said nothing.

Snip…

It begins in the summer of 1968. Nixon feared a breakthrough at the Paris Peace talks designed to find a negotiated settlement to the Vietnam war, and he knew this would derail his campaign.
He therefore set up a clandestine back-channel involving Anna Chennault, a senior campaign adviser.

At a July meeting in Nixon's New York apartment, the South Vietnamese ambassador was told Chennault represented Nixon and spoke for the campaign. If any message needed to be passed to the South Vietnamese president, Nguyen Van Thieu, it would come via Chennault.

In late October 1968 there were major concessions from Hanoi which promised to allow meaningful talks to get underway in Paris - concessions that would justify Johnson calling for a complete bombing halt of North Vietnam. This was exactly what Nixon feared.

Chennault was despatched to the South Vietnamese embassy with a clear message: the South Vietnamese government should withdraw from the talks, refuse to deal with Johnson, and if Nixon was elected, they would get a much better deal.

So on the eve of his planned announcement of a halt to the bombing, Johnson learned the South Vietnamese were pulling out.

Continues…

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668



The Vietnam “intervention” may have ended years earlier, if not for Nixon's subterfuge