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Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:31 AM

Liberal Media? CNN: Why a Putin summit would be a huge risk for Biden

You know what would be a bigger risk? No negotiations.

CNN: Why a Putin summit would be a huge risk for Biden.

(CNN) By agreeing in principle to a summit with Russia's Vladimir Putin, President Joe Biden is reaching for a signature foreign policy win, but accepting massive political and strategic risks that could easily backfire.

Biden's last-ditch, still-tentative and highly conditioned agreement to meet the Russian President came after a weekend of frenzied diplomacy and alarming new US claims that Russia was about to invade Ukraine.

There are real doubts that the meeting, brokered by French President Emmanuel Macron, will ever take place. The White House said Sunday it will go ahead only "if an invasion hasn't happened." White House says Biden has agreed to meet with Putin 'in principle' as long as Russia does not invade Ukraine

Any summit is contingent on the outcome of talks between Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in Europe this week. That meeting also depends on the condition that Moscow's troops don't further encroach into Ukraine.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/20/politics/us-russia-joe-biden-vladimir-putin-ukraine-politics-diplomacy/index.html

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Reply Liberal Media? CNN: Why a Putin summit would be a huge risk for Biden (Original post)
Botany Feb 2022 OP
OnDoutside Feb 2022 #1
Hortensis Feb 2022 #5
OnDoutside Feb 2022 #6
Hortensis Feb 2022 #7
doc03 Feb 2022 #2
msongs Feb 2022 #3
maxsolomon Feb 2022 #4

Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:38 AM

1. I tend to agree that this largely benefits Putin, as he has walked himself into this stupidity, but

it does provide an off ramp. It would provide a way of him saving face, and maybe more if the West makes a further misstep.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 21, 2022, 03:08 PM

5. Exactly, we want and need Putin to have an offramp.

Putin's reportedly depending on China to keep Russia's economy from tanking, but China has its own economic issues, and what support is given is liable to come with costs of its own. As for helping him find a way out, saving democracy in Ukraine would justify significant investment from western nations.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 21, 2022, 04:48 PM

6. But not TOO much of an offramp ! If there is one benefit for the West

it's that it may be the kick in the backside that they've been needing for a decade, especially the US need to keep the pressure on Germany above all....Uber alles ?

You could see China wanting Russia to run blocking for their own "adventures" in Asia and Africa.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 21, 2022, 06:42 PM

7. Sure. I'm not sure we've needed a kick,

or rather that the choice was measured and deliberate to not react more strongly to ones we did have. (tRump disaster aside.) A handicap this definitive action by democracies is that most people will strongly resist going to war to protect people in other nations. W didn't get broad support for the invasion of Iraq to protect Iraqis from oppression or to help establish a democracy.

Oh, yes for that last. How long, though, before their common interest in promoting authoritarian government over democracies is "blocked" by conflicts of building their respective empires? China should want/need Russia's decline to continue.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Feb 21, 2022, 12:05 PM

2. I think it could not only save a war but also democracy in

the US. If Russia carries out their war Democrats will be
slaughtered in November. Gas prices and general inflation!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Feb 21, 2022, 02:56 PM

3. if joe is gonna play the chamberlain role it will be a disaster nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 21, 2022, 03:03 PM

4. why do you think he would appease Putin?

anything he "gives" to Putin, like assurances that Ukraine will not get an anti-missile station as Poland and Romania have, would be spun as appeasement by the Right.

he could agree to keep using the ISS and that would be called appeasement.

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