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Last edited Tue Mar 1, 2022, 01:31 PM - Edit history (1)
Link to tweet
?t=QM2r5R4dfQlRtJ8igpE71g&s=19
Edited to embed original tweet (once wonderful DU members taught me how).
(My original post
From 11:32 AM today. I don't know how to do a twitter link. Pasting text and google translation.
"Навіщо 80 років повторювати «Ніколи знову», якщо, коли бомба падає на Бабин Яр, світ залишається мовчазним? Ще 5 життів втрачено. Історія повторюється...L"
Google translate-
"Why repeat "Never Again" for 80 years, if when the bomb falls on Babyn Yar, the world remains silent? 5 more lives were lost. History repeats itself ... " )
Donkees
(32,294 posts)RockCreek
(753 posts)Celerity
(46,154 posts)this yields:
Link to tweet
the other way is to use the 'share' button
then select
this also yields
Link to tweet
ShazzieB
(18,243 posts)I tried clicking on the 3 dots and "embed" wasnt listed in the options provided.
Celerity
(46,154 posts)place a block of code called an embed code into the HTML editor of another website. When you hit 'Save' or 'Publish,' the media then renders on the published page.
Grokenstein
(5,798 posts)Like so (parts replaced with asterisks for illustrative purposes): h***s://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1498697538085568514
And voilà! The system takes care of the rest!
Link to tweet
RockCreek
(753 posts)It sounds like posting a picture on Twitter and then embedding here could be the easiest way to post a picture. Is that true? I never post pictures on DU because the process seems so cumbersome.
Grokenstein
(5,798 posts)Images have to come from a host that allows hotlinking (I guess that's the right term?) and they're becoming rarer and rarer. You'd either have to post images to someplace like Imgur (and I'm not even sure about that) or use Twitter as you mentioned.
Donkees
(32,294 posts)Whatever I have shared with you I learned here on DU when Twitter sharing first began
RockCreek
(753 posts)SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Lets stipulate now that we are watching a snuff film.
JasonMain
(79 posts)Marius25
(3,213 posts)Next to that TV tower is the Babyn Yar Holocaust memorial which is where the smoke is coming from.
Link to tweet
?s=20&t=CTHZBZ_6yUaCJWbynCwnrQ
Nothing says "DeNazifying" Ukraine like bombing the memorial where tens of thousands of Jews were murdered.
RockCreek
(753 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)The Babyn Yar Holocaust Memorial was established to memorialize the Nazi murder of about 100,000 people, including the entire Jewish population of #Kyiv.
Link to tweet
Beastly Boy
(10,888 posts)It was a catalyst for the "never again" rallying cry.
Lucky Luciano
(11,384 posts)liberalla
(9,815 posts)LakeArenal
(29,631 posts)Roc2020
(1,689 posts)The fruits of Trump's Lies are what we are reaping right now in Ukraine. Putin even calls us The Empire of Lies. Consequences of Trump.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)brilliant points?. Ew if I was advising any other leader in the world, I'd tell them to lay low and let the master Z speak.
onecaliberal
(35,313 posts)multigraincracker
(33,730 posts)3..2..1...
Hekate
(93,947 posts)Well, Ill keep my eye out .
multigraincracker
(33,730 posts)Karadeniz
(23,169 posts)said that Russia's statement of denazification is unsupportable when they themselves behave like Nazis.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)seen any.
Karadeniz
(23,169 posts)be renamed Freedom Square, I immediately pictured the Trump Square or whatever that NYahoo put up. Unbelievable that a Jewish nation would glorify a man who incited racism, even on campaign.
Response to Samrob (Reply #27)
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RockCreek
(753 posts)However, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency had a ridiculous "both-sides" article about Jewish Russian oligarchs. I am Jewish, and hate posting this. The article, however, infuriated me.
Russias Jewish oligarchs and their donations come under threat of Western sanctions amid Ukraine war
BY ASAF SHALEV
MARCH 1, 2022 1:21 PM
(JTA) "Jewish communities in Ukraine received a $10 million gift from a perhaps unlikely source Monday: a charitable organization founded by three Russian Jewish oligarchs who are being accused of having supported the regime of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The donation is small for the three billionaires behind Genesis Philanthropy Group Mikhail Fridman, Petr Aven and German Khan who are together worth $21 billion. But it is significant in part because it signals daylight between them and Putin, who on Thursday invaded Ukraine and plunged the region into crisis.
....
Abramovich has long denied that he is an ally of Putin, and his representatives told The Guardian newspaper last week that it would be ludicrous to suggest that our client has any responsibility or influence over the behavior of the Russian state.
Current sanctions appear not to have deterred Putin as yet, making it likely that the West will seek to go further in pressuring the Russian president however it can. That leaves uncertainty for the recipients of the largesse of Russias Jewish billionaires."
Much longer article than these excerpts at link:
https://www.jta.org/2022/03/01/global/russias-jewish-oligarchs-and-their-donations-come-under-threat-of-western-sanctions-amid-ukraine-war
soldierant
(7,707 posts)we might be informed. I don't for a moment think that was easy.
RockCreek
(753 posts)It is thanks to the open and respectful atmosphere of DU that I felt OK posting it here. I did not believe it would lead to a string of nasty statements; this is very different from the reception it would receive on many other sites.
Karadeniz
(23,169 posts)said that Russia's statement of denazification is unsupportable when they themselves behave like Nazis.
ShazzieB
(18,243 posts)I am very familiar with the story of what happened there, but I knew it as Babi Yar, and I needed to confirm that Babyn Yar and Babi Yar are indeed the same place. What happened there was horrible, and it happened in lots of other places as well. As the German army invaded and occupied Soviet territory, they were followed by units known as the Einsatzgruppen (task forces, special action groups) that proceeded to carry out one mass murder after another. If you have the stomach for it, you can read more about this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen
That Putin decided to bomb the Babyn Yar Memorial should fill all thinking people with utter revulsion. I can't think of any words that are even close to being adequate to describe just how despicable this is.
Karadeniz
(23,169 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(10,736 posts)Maybe because my major was initially linguistics and my mind goes fairly rapidly between one similar language and another, even if I don't know either one, I got it right away. Or maybe because I knew, from my Russian History course, that Babi Yar/Babyn Yar was in Ukraine (when I took the class it was still the USSR, yikes).
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)RockCreek
(753 posts)IronLionZion
(46,803 posts)And Odessa massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_Odessa_massacre
All this is why it's extra Orwellian for Putin to claim he's "denazifying" Ukraine. Zelensky is Jewish and his ancestors perished in the holocaust. Putin is using blitzkrieg and siege tactics to starve out Ukrainian cities.
catbyte
(35,499 posts)We went to Moscow, Kiev (Kyiv) and Leningrad (St. Petersburg), When we went to Kyiv, we took a side trip to Babi Yar, and it was one of the most profoundly moving experiences of m life. I'm utterly horrified that this is happening all over again.
Shame on Russia. More than shame on Putin. He really, really, really wants to be Stalin (or Hitler) 2.0, doesn't he?
NQAS
(10,749 posts)After WWII, the world proclaimed, "Never Again."
Although Never Again largely refers to the Holocaust, Zelenskyy is right. The Russians are bombing Babyn Yar, the site of the murders of more than 100,000 innocents, including Jews, Ukrainians, Russians, Gypsies, and so many more. Putin is desecrating a spot where his fellow Russians were murdered by soldiers of the Third Reich.
We are relieved to see European countries providing weapons and aircraft. Unfortunately, we all realize the implications if the US and other nations decide to expand their support/involvement. Ukraine is not a NATO country, Russia has put its nuclear forces on alert, etc. Notwithstanding widespread moral and financial support in the US for Ukraine, I don't think the US has the stomach for another US military entanglement, however noble. (And then are the political implications.) But if all we do is stand by to await the outcome, then we have to admit that Never Again was only a slogan. When Never Again should have been a century-long rallying cry, it may turn out to have been a meaningless feel-good trope.
SunSeeker
(53,326 posts)Particularly on people of color.
burrowowl
(17,942 posts)SunSeeker
(53,326 posts)Hekate
(93,947 posts)Written 1961 to protest the USSRs refusal to build a monument at Babi Yar, where 33,000 were murdered and dumped in the ravine in September 1941. The dissident poet reflects on that number, as he has just become 33 years old.
Dmitri Shostakovichs 13th Symphony is based in part on this poem.
(I am still trying to find an English translation that I can copy here. For something I remember so well, it is turning out to be difficult to find when I want to.)
Meanwhile I leave you with this.
Bongo Prophet
(2,729 posts)Poetry should be heard, as well as read. Each provides different aspects of the richness of words.
I have this in my copy buffer for those who can't play the video for any reason.
Babi Yar
By Yevgeni Yevtushenko
Translated by A.Z. Foreman
Requested by Ruth Blumenthal
No monuments stand over Babi Yar,
A sudden drop sheer as a gross graveslab.
I am here terrified.
Today I am
As old as all the Jewish people are.
Now it seems that I am
an Israelite.
There I am wandering Ancient Egypt's lands,
And there I perish, pierced and crucified,
And to this day bear nail-scars on my hands.
And Dreyfus too is
me,
there I have been
Sentenced, sold out
by petty philistines.
I am behind bars,
rounded up and battered,
I have been
hounded, hunted,
slandered, spat on,
And demoiselles dolled up in Brussels lace
Shrieked as they poked their parasols in my face.
And now I am
a boy in Białystok.
Blood runs across the floor. Blood on the wall.
The bar-room rabble-rousers run amok
Reeking of onion and hard alcohol.
Boots kick my body aside, helpless. Head gushing,
I plead in vain with thugs of the pogrom
To hoots of
"Smash the fucking kikes! Save Russia!"
And some grain-seller beats and rapes my mom.
My People! Russian nation!
I know,
you
Are internationalist at the core,
But men with filthy hands too often boomed
Your clean sweet name into a jingo roar.
I know the good, the kindness of your land.
How vile it is
that, with no pinch of scruple,
those pompous antisemites tried to brand
themselves a "Union of the Russian People."
It seems that what I am is
Anne Frank
Transparent
as a fragile April branch.
And I love.
And I need no puffy phrase.
I need for us
to meet each other's gaze.
So little we can see or smell,
we who
Have been denied the sky,
denied the leaves.
But we can do so much:
to tenderly
Embrace each other in a darkened room.
"They're coming!"
"Don't be scared.
That's just the clamor
of early spring.
It is spring coming here!
Come here.
Give me a kiss, quick."
"Are they ramming
The door?"
"Shhhh...no, that's cracking ice you hear."
The wildgrass rustles over Babi Yar.
Trees stare down stern,
judicial,
cold as day.
All things scream silent here.
Hat in my arm,
I feel myself now
slowly growing grey.
And I myself
am one all-out soundless scream
For the thousand buried thousands in this char.
I'm every old man
shot in this ravine,
I'm every baby
burned in Babi Yar.
No fiber in me
will forget this ever.
Let the Internationale
thunder forth
When we have buried, finally and forever,
The final antisemite on this earth.
There is no Jewish blood in me, it's true.
But with their callous ossified revulsion
Antisemites must hate me like
a Jew
And that is what makes me
a real Russian.
Hekate
(93,947 posts)RockCreek
(753 posts)ancianita
(37,937 posts)RockCreek
(753 posts)soldierant
(7,707 posts)I've heard the symphony more than once.
Hekate
(93,947 posts)Vindman is always so stoic, but he referenced their common Jewish and Ukrainian ancestry in a very moving way.
Rhiannon12866
(218,722 posts)Polybius
(17,116 posts)We've done plenty. Russia's economy is in the toilet.