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gab13by13

(21,304 posts)
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 08:48 AM Mar 2022

The War in Ukraine - Democracy v Autocracy

Democracies around the world hinge upon Ukraine not falling to Russia.

On the other hand, autocracies around the world hinge on Putin annexing Ukraine.

I am not being overly dramatic. Look at what the war in Ukraine has done to the far right anti-democratic Republican party, it is cowering away from its praise of Putin, from its praise of Russia and Hungary. Even anti-democratic Fox News understands that supporting an autocracy, right now,is extremely unpopular. If Russia takes over Ukraine they will go right back to supporting autocracy.

If Putin succeeds is taking over Ukraine it will solidify autocracies all over the world, if Ukraine beats back Russia it will bolster democracies all over the world.

I am not being overly dramatic, plans have leaked out that Putin was planning to move right into Moldova (not a NATO member) after Ukraine.

The US and our allies need to do all that we can to see that Ukraine and democracy win out.

Send those Stingers and Javelins, and more arms and ammunition.

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The War in Ukraine - Democracy v Autocracy (Original Post) gab13by13 Mar 2022 OP
You are right. And it is the same battle here in the US. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #1
Finally it seems governments and their people are waking up to this threat Tadpole Raisin Mar 2022 #2

Irish_Dem

(46,914 posts)
1. You are right. And it is the same battle here in the US.
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 09:00 AM
Mar 2022

Democracy vs PutinGOP autocratic rule, white christian minority rule.
As we watch the GOP take over our voting apparatus.

If the world wants to preserve democracy we are going to have to fight.

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
2. Finally it seems governments and their people are waking up to this threat
Wed Mar 2, 2022, 09:01 AM
Mar 2022

and becoming unified to prevent it from happening. There can be no hesitation in our efforts to stand up to the monster Putin or the monsters we have in the United States who have quietly infiltrated our police, local, state, and federal government. They were bolstered by TFG and thought it was time to come out and show themselves for who they were, positive that their patience with hiding in the shadows for decades would now be rewarded.

I don’t know why but I have always been struck by a LOTR scene where Merry relays why it is so important to fight when Pippin says they should just go home because it is not really their fight anyway -

“The fires of Isengard will spread, and the forests of Tuckborough and Buckland will burn. And all that was once great and good in this world will be gone. There won't be a Shire, Pippin.”

This is where we are now!

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