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BComplex

(7,984 posts)
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:03 PM Mar 2022

I live out in the country where guns are always sounding. But today, a minute ago it sounded

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like a friggin' cannon went off. Shook the windows 1/4 mile away. WTF are these people using to "target practice" with?

What kinds of weapons are illegal in this country? Wow!!! It just happened again! Huge boom! How does the FBI know who is a threat?

This shit scares me to death. My dogs are hiding under the house. I might join them.

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I live out in the country where guns are always sounding. But today, a minute ago it sounded (Original Post) BComplex Mar 2022 OP
It's probably tannerite. LastDemocratInSC Mar 2022 #1
So it's not illegal? I don't know if that's what they're doing, but it sounds like a cannon. BComplex Mar 2022 #5
So, tannerite is a binary explosive NickB79 Mar 2022 #11
Not Quite, But Packs Quite A Punch Nonetheless ProfessorGAC Mar 2022 #44
They're sold over the counter as "targets". SergeStorms Mar 2022 #72
How much of a mess did he have to clean up? LiberalFighter Mar 2022 #84
Sounds like the fascist militia is wnylib Mar 2022 #51
I don't know much about tannerite, but there is this video csziggy Mar 2022 #60
The #1 choice of gender reveal idiots ironflange Mar 2022 #22
Great for starting wildfires IronLionZion Mar 2022 #73
Possibly blowing up tree stumps? txwhitedove Mar 2022 #2
No. Too many different kinds of automatic guns going along with the cannon sounding booms. BComplex Mar 2022 #7
So, skeet shooting tree stumps maybe? L. Coyote Mar 2022 #56
Really hard to get those tree stumps leftieNanner Mar 2022 #61
.... BComplex Mar 2022 #69
Tannerite or something similar... DetroitLegalBeagle Mar 2022 #3
Ain't nothing illegal in the country....... essaynnc Mar 2022 #4
Technically......yes, sorta DetroitLegalBeagle Mar 2022 #6
So, is anyone on our side doing this kind of practicing to the tune of a couple of thousand dollars BComplex Mar 2022 #12
Not me I am too cheap. nt doc03 Mar 2022 #40
Me too. enneacanthus Mar 2022 #8
So tannerite? Is it lethal? BComplex Mar 2022 #9
Both. Disaffected Mar 2022 #15
It can be lethal if misused DetroitLegalBeagle Mar 2022 #26
Tannerite... perfect for the "Here, hold muh beer." crowd. albacore Mar 2022 #81
BTW, enneacanthus! Welcome to DU! BComplex Mar 2022 #10
Welcome to DU! COL Mustard Mar 2022 #14
Could it have been a still? Runningdawg Mar 2022 #13
Hahaha! BComplex Mar 2022 #18
I get it that you are not in a city or a town, soldierant Mar 2022 #65
Shooting is typically allowed in such areas, though it wouldn't hurt to check. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #67
Only after 11:00 pm BComplex Mar 2022 #70
Dang. Clearly not good enough. soldierant Mar 2022 #75
You mentioned you were used to gun fire but THIS sounded like a "cannon" Runningdawg Mar 2022 #83
I grew up in the country. My dad still lives there. GreenEyedLefty Mar 2022 #16
There sure isn't out here! BComplex Mar 2022 #21
Last year I was out in my woods cutting firewood. Next to my back property Emile Mar 2022 #17
That's crazy! BComplex Mar 2022 #19
What's crazy is some bible thumper thinking he needs a handgun to mow grass. Emile Mar 2022 #38
Here also, PXR-5 Mar 2022 #20
I live in Franklin County, east of Wake County where the capitol, Raleigh, is. BComplex Mar 2022 #23
Might want to move up that timeline. wnylib Mar 2022 #53
Trial runs. Matter of time. czarjak Mar 2022 #24
That is exactly what terrifies me most. WTF are they "practicing" for? BComplex Mar 2022 #27
They are angry over Russia's poor wnylib Mar 2022 #58
Report it for noise level issues maybe? Meowmee Mar 2022 #25
These guys go year 'round. But today was the first day I heard this cannon type boom. BComplex Mar 2022 #28
That is awful 😿 Meowmee Mar 2022 #85
God bless America aurora the great Mar 2022 #29
I totally get it. BComplex Mar 2022 #31
Get a burner phone & make anon tip? SheltieLover Mar 2022 #30
Good idea. summer_in_TX Mar 2022 #64
Drive away from home when you call & pull sim or destroy phone after you call. SheltieLover Mar 2022 #74
Could it be M80's or other fireworks? I know they are illegal but lots of folks here in Montana ratchiweenie Mar 2022 #32
No, ratchiweenie. It's totally guns. BComplex Mar 2022 #34
As others have speculated, tannerite or a cannon are likely candidates. Perhaps a .50 rifle of some Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #33
How do we have so many deadly weapons in rural USA? BComplex Mar 2022 #35
Because many people in rural USA want them and they're legal. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #36
I specifically bought a house on acreage so I could shoot outdoors NickB79 Mar 2022 #46
Nice. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #50
We shoot outdoors sometimes. Target practice. But we're done in about 10 minutes. Do you know BComplex Mar 2022 #52
.22 LR can still be had for as little as 8 cents a round if you shop around. That would be the only Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #57
That's what I have; a .22. BComplex Mar 2022 #68
Oh yeah. I pretty much just shoot .22's now NickB79 Mar 2022 #59
I don't want to think about how much every shot from my .577 Snider costs.... Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #62
I shoot wild pigs with mine, of course I don't think I am crazy. Chuuku Davis Mar 2022 #82
All these weapons are legal because the Supreme Court ruled on a comma in the 2nd Amendment. marie999 Mar 2022 #37
Those brilliant founding fathers shoud have used a period... sanatanadharma Mar 2022 #41
Humm! Shooting Tannerite sanatanadharma Mar 2022 #39
I'm gonna go with a .50BMG rifle of some sort as my first guess. LiberatedUSA Mar 2022 #42
I wouldn't be surprised, they're not that uncommon these days. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #45
One if my MAGAt neighbors shoots about every afternoon. doc03 Mar 2022 #43
I've seen a number of vids of guys almost being killed by shrapnel while shooting something filled Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #48
That does it. I'm going to go hide under my bed now. BComplex Mar 2022 #55
As a civil and revolutionary war re-enactor for artillery, I can state that cannons are unregulated. NutmegYankee Mar 2022 #47
It's my understanding that as long as you don't shoot explosive shells, you're good. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #49
Yes. NutmegYankee Mar 2022 #78
A 12 pounder firing grapeshot is no joke! Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #80
A quarter stick of dynamite ... mbusby Mar 2022 #54
Cannon. Wednesdays Mar 2022 #63
Oooops! At first I was wondering what you were talking about, then I went to my original post. BComplex Mar 2022 #71
Some people put some tannerite in their targets... krispos42 Mar 2022 #66
Binary explosive targets are fun as hell. SYFROYH Mar 2022 #76
Definitely tannerite vercetti2021 Mar 2022 #77
I live in a small town surrounded by semi-rural kcr Mar 2022 #79

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
5. So it's not illegal? I don't know if that's what they're doing, but it sounds like a cannon.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:19 PM
Mar 2022

I live in an extremist area. Lots of white supremacists and KKK types. This makes me feel really unsafe, but I'm scared to call the FBI or anyone, because there are so many nazi types infiltrated into that agency. I don't want to put myself in harms way by reporting this kind of explosives going on.

My husband commented that this "neighbor" has probably gone through $1,000 worth of ammunition in the past hour and a half. They have a lot of seriously automatic machine guns or some such...fires a whole slew of huge bullets in really quick succession.

NickB79

(19,114 posts)
11. So, tannerite is a binary explosive
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:24 PM
Mar 2022

The two powders sold in the kit separately aren't explosive. It only becomes an explosive after you mix the two. And then, it only explodes when hit by a bullet travelling over 1,000 feet per second.

Lots of loopholes, I know, but that's why it's technically legal, even though it's as powerful as dynamite.

ProfessorGAC

(64,425 posts)
44. Not Quite, But Packs Quite A Punch Nonetheless
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:44 PM
Mar 2022

2# of tannerite (904 grams) is equivalent to one stick of dynamite.
Commercially available dynamite comes in 190-200g per stick.
So, it's about 23% the energy release of dynamite. Much higher than gun powder.
Also, a projectile needs to be closer to mach 2 to detonate tannerite. (600 meters/sec.)
A subsonic round won't do it.
All that said, the law should be rewritten to restrict tannerite sales. It's still a bigtime explosive and mixing the two components can be done by anyone with a kitchen spatula & a plastic pail.
It's definitely under-regulated.

SergeStorms

(18,903 posts)
72. They're sold over the counter as "targets".
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:24 PM
Mar 2022

No special license needed, nothing signed to register it. My brother bought a case of the stuff (he's a gun nut, but not a crazy gun nut, if that makes sense). I've been with him when he detonated it and IT IS LOUD! I'm from the country orriginally and I've heard farmers using dynamite to blow stumps etc. and it's just as loud as dynamite. YouTube is full of Tannerite explosions.



I imagine this is what the OP heard.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,904 posts)
3. Tannerite or something similar...
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:14 PM
Mar 2022

or an actual cannon, though likely a black powder one

Tannerite is an explosive target, legal in all but 2 or 3 states I think.

Cannons are legal to own, especially black powder cannons. Black powder guns and cannons are entirely unregulated by Federal law since they aren't considered firearms.

Far greater likelihood that it's tannerite or something similar.

essaynnc

(792 posts)
4. Ain't nothing illegal in the country.......
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:14 PM
Mar 2022

'Cept maybe nuclear weapons, anti aircraft missiles, land mines.


on a slightly different not, can a private citizen own a Javelin anti tank missile system????

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,904 posts)
6. Technically......yes, sorta
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:21 PM
Mar 2022

Explosives like that would be considered Destructive Devices, which are regulated somewhat similarly to machine guns. Both fall under the National Firearms Act. Registration and approval by the ATF would be needed, just like a machine gun. There would be additional storage requirements as well.

There are civilian owned grenades and grenade launchers, as well as artillery, and tanks with live main guns. But just because its technically legal to own doesn't mean you can get one. Someone still has to sell them to you and Raytheon isn't going to be selling them to anyone but the government or entities approved by the government.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
12. So, is anyone on our side doing this kind of practicing to the tune of a couple of thousand dollars
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:25 PM
Mar 2022

worth of ammunition every weekend?

Asking for a friend.

 

enneacanthus

(51 posts)
8. Me too.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:21 PM
Mar 2022

It's likely tannerite. The neighbors have a gravel pit about a quarter mile from my property in south AL. They explode tannerite in large quantities that knocks the tools and other stuff off the walls of my shop and terrifies the dogs. I've called the sheriff and they say "It's likely tannerite".

Sorry.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,904 posts)
26. It can be lethal if misused
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:42 PM
Mar 2022

Its still an explosion. Standing too close is dangerous. Putting inside something that then blowing it up with tannerite still produces shrapnel. There was a guy on youtube who lost his leg because he shot a lawnmower packed with tannerite and the shrapnel cut his leg off.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
18. Hahaha!
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:29 PM
Mar 2022
No. It's about 7 or 8 different types of guns and explosives. It goes on for hours. And no, it's not a commercial shooting range. It's a house on a street in the country that is perpendicular to my road.

soldierant

(6,648 posts)
65. I get it that you are not in a city or a town,
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:49 PM
Mar 2022

but might the county have some kind of moise ordinance?

soldierant

(6,648 posts)
75. Dang. Clearly not good enough.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 11:33 PM
Mar 2022

Chewy carries a noise generator which has several diffrent sounds - not as many as some noise generators, but I use it for myself and all need is white noise. It is very sturdy, can be hung on a hook or peg, The battert is recharged through aUSB cord; I got nan adapter plug to keep it connected to house currant at all times.

have used a noise genrator to sleep since I was 20 (76now) and I can testify that they can block noises which are louder than they are. That might not go all the way up to even dynamite, but it does wotk for normal gunshots even if they are quite close. I lived for about a year (in the early nineties) in an apartment building where apparently there were not infrequent gunshots - I didn't know it until I moved out and someone mentioned it as apossible reason for my moving. HUbs had not heard any either. We were both astonished.

I have no pets but shop at Chewy when possible because they are just such nice people.

Runningdawg

(4,496 posts)
83. You mentioned you were used to gun fire but THIS sounded like a "cannon"
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 05:31 PM
Mar 2022

Accurate description of a still blowing.

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
16. I grew up in the country. My dad still lives there.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:28 PM
Mar 2022

I visit every weekend and now that the weather is warmer, the gunshots are nearly constant. My husband talks about moving to the country for the peace and quiet. It makes me laugh when he says that. There's no such thing as peace and quiet in the boonies.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
21. There sure isn't out here!
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:32 PM
Mar 2022

These people don't live in that great of a house, but they have a HUGE arsenal of weapons and ammunition! I mean, seriously? They can continue shooting for hours on end! That's really expensive!

Emile

(21,909 posts)
17. Last year I was out in my woods cutting firewood. Next to my back property
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:28 PM
Mar 2022

is a country church with a huge lawn that borders my woods. There was an old man on a John Deere tractor mowing the church grounds. I was deep in a hollow cutting up a huge Honey Locust tree. I stopped to take a break and was sitting on the tree stump when across the hollow on top the hill that old man with his tractor running started shooting his hand gun blindly into my woods. I stood up with both arms waving and screaming to get his attention. He couldn't hear me over his tractor noise. I started up my small John Deere and turned on my flashers and headlights. He pretended he didn't see me and turned around and got on his tractor and drove off. Whenever I hear gun shots outside now, it scares the shit out of me.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
19. That's crazy!
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:31 PM
Mar 2022

And really scary. WTF are these people thinking? They've got snakes in their heads.

PXR-5

(522 posts)
20. Here also,
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:31 PM
Mar 2022

I'm in Union County NC, non-stop shooting and blasting. Dogs are terrified, can't call the county council or the sheriff's department, because they tell me to mind my own business.

In another year or so we will be moving out of state to a more blue area.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
23. I live in Franklin County, east of Wake County where the capitol, Raleigh, is.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:35 PM
Mar 2022

We're not but 45 minutes east of the big city.

This is beyond what anyone needs in the way of ammunition! What Ukraine wouldn't do to get hold of these guns and bullets! They'd actually put them to good use for a higher purpose.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
27. That is exactly what terrifies me most. WTF are they "practicing" for?
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:47 PM
Mar 2022

We've all heard they want a war inside our own country. These people are absolutely nuts.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
58. They are angry over Russia's poor
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:35 PM
Mar 2022

performance and the world turning against Putin (and Trump by extension).

I live in an apartment in small city. No explosives here, but the neighbor across the hall from me has two crisscrossed Russian flags on the door, with a Z right below them. At least I know who to beware of when the fighting starts.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
25. Report it for noise level issues maybe?
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:36 PM
Mar 2022

Sorry you and your dogs have to go through this. We have some explosion like type of sounds here from the wackos here too, starting from spring through past July 4th. In fact it happens all year round now although more leading up to then and during the summer.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
28. These guys go year 'round. But today was the first day I heard this cannon type boom.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:48 PM
Mar 2022

It really sounded like a huge explosion. They've done it about 5 times today.

aurora the great

(71 posts)
29. God bless America
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:50 PM
Mar 2022

I don't live in the country. I don't live in the boonies. I live in the Mid Atlantic states in a small town where you can hear the gun shots firing away at night. Oh this is Trump Country alright and I pray to God every time some "special date" occurs like the Anniversary of Jan 6 or the latest Trump rally that these fine citizens *(translate trigger happy yahoos) don't make a concerted effort to join forces and kick it up a bit. Oh well, we chose to move here (god knows why), But I can't wait to retire and move back to the civilized world, where I lived for almost 60 years give or take a few and I pray. Sorry for prattling but this really hit home.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
31. I totally get it.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:54 PM
Mar 2022

Every time there is one of their "hard-on for trump" days, they are out there shooting like there's no tomorrow.

summer_in_TX

(2,685 posts)
64. Good idea.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:48 PM
Mar 2022

The Southern Poverty Law Center probably knows about the group/individuals involved but it wouldn't hurt to contact them with whatever info you have who/what/when/where. They may have advice and resources for you.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
74. Drive away from home when you call & pull sim or destroy phone after you call.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 10:09 PM
Mar 2022

No personal experience with this, but I read a lot.

Great idea Southern Poverty Law Center!

ratchiweenie

(7,744 posts)
32. Could it be M80's or other fireworks? I know they are illegal but lots of folks here in Montana
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:57 PM
Mar 2022

have them and shoot them off all the time. Often in the middle of the night. I figure they are drunk. I have a guy down my road that comes by all the time with the huge flags flying off the back of his pickup. He had huge Trump banner all over his property. They finally came down a couple of months ago. I assume it's him and his gang. The gunshots always seem to come from that end of the road. It terrifies my little dogs too.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
34. No, ratchiweenie. It's totally guns.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:00 PM
Mar 2022

They sound totally different than fireworks. Automatic weapons. AK-47s. And they have a machine gun of some sort. It's enough to make you terrified.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
33. As others have speculated, tannerite or a cannon are likely candidates. Perhaps a .50 rifle of some
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:00 PM
Mar 2022

sort? They're quite loud, 50 times louder than an AR-15. It's hard to say.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
35. How do we have so many deadly weapons in rural USA?
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:02 PM
Mar 2022

It's because these guns are sold to crazy people with a bad attitude!

NickB79

(19,114 posts)
46. I specifically bought a house on acreage so I could shoot outdoors
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:51 PM
Mar 2022

Among other things I enjoy (gardening, planting trees, raising livestock, etc).

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
52. We shoot outdoors sometimes. Target practice. But we're done in about 10 minutes. Do you know
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:29 PM
Mar 2022

how much ammunition costs?
These guys go on for hours on end. One Saturday they started about 2:00 and ended about 8:30 pm.

That's thousands of dollars worth of ammunition.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
57. .22 LR can still be had for as little as 8 cents a round if you shop around. That would be the only
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:35 PM
Mar 2022

way I could afford to shoot for such a length of time on a regular basis.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
68. That's what I have; a .22.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:05 PM
Mar 2022

Mostly to scare off the buzzards that try to get the squirrels my dogs catch. I don't shoot them to kill them. Just to make them go away. Ok. That's gross. But, hey. It's the country.

NickB79

(19,114 posts)
59. Oh yeah. I pretty much just shoot .22's now
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:36 PM
Mar 2022

If I'm feeling rich I'll throw a dozen .17 or .223 rounds downrange and call it good 🤣

Chuuku Davis

(564 posts)
82. I shoot wild pigs with mine, of course I don't think I am crazy.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 03:42 PM
Mar 2022

Pigs are active at night so we use night vision. You would be shocked at what pigs can do to a soybean field in a night.

And the occasional coyote gets shot.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
37. All these weapons are legal because the Supreme Court ruled on a comma in the 2nd Amendment.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:18 PM
Mar 2022

It said that the amendment has two parts, the first is about the militia and the second part is about the right of the people.

sanatanadharma

(3,639 posts)
41. Those brilliant founding fathers shoud have used a period...
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:40 PM
Mar 2022

...according to the less than a Supreme Court.

A court of last resort, an end of the line, but nothing 'supreme' about this one generation's court of failed men.

No women were responsible for the unmaking of the precedent of "sanity".

sanatanadharma

(3,639 posts)
39. Humm! Shooting Tannerite
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:32 PM
Mar 2022

Sounds like a great cover story, a cover-up for the occasional illegal homemade good-ol-boys bomb test.

doc03

(35,148 posts)
43. One if my MAGAt neighbors shoots about every afternoon.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:44 PM
Mar 2022

Some local guys shot several hundred dollars worth of
Tannerite all at once one day it shook the ground a mile away. The 911 got several calls people thinking a gas well blew.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
48. I've seen a number of vids of guys almost being killed by shrapnel while shooting something filled
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:02 PM
Mar 2022

with tannerite. Idiots.



NutmegYankee

(16,178 posts)
47. As a civil and revolutionary war re-enactor for artillery, I can state that cannons are unregulated.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:01 PM
Mar 2022

I can own and fire real cannons without a permit or license in most states. Massachusetts has a license, but it has no fee and is valid for 5 years. It’s basically an exam and background check.

NutmegYankee

(16,178 posts)
78. Yes.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 01:38 PM
Mar 2022

Our 1841 mountain howitzer would have in real war fired spherical case, but our target practice in competitions has been with solid shot. We've also demonstrated canister, which is brutal. We set up cardboard targets and counted the hits. Yikes!

mbusby

(822 posts)
54. A quarter stick of dynamite ...
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:31 PM
Mar 2022

... was used to remove stumps. My grandfather on my dads side used them on the farm.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
71. Oooops! At first I was wondering what you were talking about, then I went to my original post.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:10 PM
Mar 2022
I fixed it.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
66. Some people put some tannerite in their targets...
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:50 PM
Mar 2022

... to add some spice to their shooting sessions.

Like, putting some inside old tin cans so when you score a hit there's an immediate indication of it.

Understand that shooting paper doesn't give audio or visual feedback and trying to see where bullets are making holes is difficult, so shooting steel targets that move or fall over is popular, especially at longer ranges.

Some people like a touch more feedback, it seems.

If it's during daylight hours and the explosions aren't damaging your property, there probably isn't anything you can do, legally.

SYFROYH

(34,127 posts)
76. Binary explosive targets are fun as hell.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 12:03 AM
Mar 2022

Blowin stuff up safely is fun.

This guy got into some trouble for a super large tannerite explosion that caused a dump-truck box to fly.

?t=14

vercetti2021

(10,150 posts)
77. Definitely tannerite
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 12:13 AM
Mar 2022

A few of my friends make it and go out to a far property outside of the city to shoot guns. Been a few times myself. It's a pretty decent explosion

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