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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI live out in the country where guns are always sounding. But today, a minute ago it sounded
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like a friggin' cannon went off. Shook the windows 1/4 mile away. WTF are these people using to "target practice" with?
What kinds of weapons are illegal in this country? Wow!!! It just happened again! Huge boom! How does the FBI know who is a threat?
This shit scares me to death. My dogs are hiding under the house. I might join them.
LastDemocratInSC
(3,625 posts)BComplex
(7,984 posts)I live in an extremist area. Lots of white supremacists and KKK types. This makes me feel really unsafe, but I'm scared to call the FBI or anyone, because there are so many nazi types infiltrated into that agency. I don't want to put myself in harms way by reporting this kind of explosives going on.
My husband commented that this "neighbor" has probably gone through $1,000 worth of ammunition in the past hour and a half. They have a lot of seriously automatic machine guns or some such...fires a whole slew of huge bullets in really quick succession.
NickB79
(19,114 posts)The two powders sold in the kit separately aren't explosive. It only becomes an explosive after you mix the two. And then, it only explodes when hit by a bullet travelling over 1,000 feet per second.
Lots of loopholes, I know, but that's why it's technically legal, even though it's as powerful as dynamite.
ProfessorGAC
(64,425 posts)2# of tannerite (904 grams) is equivalent to one stick of dynamite.
Commercially available dynamite comes in 190-200g per stick.
So, it's about 23% the energy release of dynamite. Much higher than gun powder.
Also, a projectile needs to be closer to mach 2 to detonate tannerite. (600 meters/sec.)
A subsonic round won't do it.
All that said, the law should be rewritten to restrict tannerite sales. It's still a bigtime explosive and mixing the two components can be done by anyone with a kitchen spatula & a plastic pail.
It's definitely under-regulated.
SergeStorms
(18,903 posts)No special license needed, nothing signed to register it. My brother bought a case of the stuff (he's a gun nut, but not a crazy gun nut, if that makes sense). I've been with him when he detonated it and IT IS LOUD! I'm from the country orriginally and I've heard farmers using dynamite to blow stumps etc. and it's just as loud as dynamite. YouTube is full of Tannerite explosions.
I imagine this is what the OP heard.
LiberalFighter
(50,504 posts)wnylib
(21,146 posts)doing training practice for their next coup attempt.
csziggy
(34,120 posts)And several other similar ones:
ironflange
(7,781 posts)IronLionZion
(45,261 posts)and killing friends nearby
txwhitedove
(3,922 posts)BComplex
(7,984 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)leftieNanner
(14,998 posts)up in the air though.
BComplex
(7,984 posts)DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,904 posts)or an actual cannon, though likely a black powder one
Tannerite is an explosive target, legal in all but 2 or 3 states I think.
Cannons are legal to own, especially black powder cannons. Black powder guns and cannons are entirely unregulated by Federal law since they aren't considered firearms.
Far greater likelihood that it's tannerite or something similar.
essaynnc
(792 posts)'Cept maybe nuclear weapons, anti aircraft missiles, land mines.
on a slightly different not, can a private citizen own a Javelin anti tank missile system????
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,904 posts)Explosives like that would be considered Destructive Devices, which are regulated somewhat similarly to machine guns. Both fall under the National Firearms Act. Registration and approval by the ATF would be needed, just like a machine gun. There would be additional storage requirements as well.
There are civilian owned grenades and grenade launchers, as well as artillery, and tanks with live main guns. But just because its technically legal to own doesn't mean you can get one. Someone still has to sell them to you and Raytheon isn't going to be selling them to anyone but the government or entities approved by the government.
BComplex
(7,984 posts)worth of ammunition every weekend?
Asking for a friend.
doc03
(35,148 posts)enneacanthus
(51 posts)It's likely tannerite. The neighbors have a gravel pit about a quarter mile from my property in south AL. They explode tannerite in large quantities that knocks the tools and other stuff off the walls of my shop and terrifies the dogs. I've called the sheriff and they say "It's likely tannerite".
Sorry.
BComplex
(7,984 posts)Or just noisy?
Disaffected
(4,508 posts)DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,904 posts)Its still an explosion. Standing too close is dangerous. Putting inside something that then blowing it up with tannerite still produces shrapnel. There was a guy on youtube who lost his leg because he shot a lawnmower packed with tannerite and the shrapnel cut his leg off.
albacore
(2,387 posts)BComplex
(7,984 posts)COL Mustard
(5,783 posts)Where in south AL? I grew up near Mobile.
Runningdawg
(4,496 posts)BComplex
(7,984 posts)soldierant
(6,648 posts)but might the county have some kind of moise ordinance?
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)BComplex
(7,984 posts)After that, the deputies are in bed.
soldierant
(6,648 posts)Chewy carries a noise generator which has several diffrent sounds - not as many as some noise generators, but I use it for myself and all need is white noise. It is very sturdy, can be hung on a hook or peg, The battert is recharged through aUSB cord; I got nan adapter plug to keep it connected to house currant at all times.
have used a noise genrator to sleep since I was 20 (76now) and I can testify that they can block noises which are louder than they are. That might not go all the way up to even dynamite, but it does wotk for normal gunshots even if they are quite close. I lived for about a year (in the early nineties) in an apartment building where apparently there were not infrequent gunshots - I didn't know it until I moved out and someone mentioned it as apossible reason for my moving. HUbs had not heard any either. We were both astonished.
I have no pets but shop at Chewy when possible because they are just such nice people.
Runningdawg
(4,496 posts)Accurate description of a still blowing.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)I visit every weekend and now that the weather is warmer, the gunshots are nearly constant. My husband talks about moving to the country for the peace and quiet. It makes me laugh when he says that. There's no such thing as peace and quiet in the boonies.
BComplex
(7,984 posts)These people don't live in that great of a house, but they have a HUGE arsenal of weapons and ammunition! I mean, seriously? They can continue shooting for hours on end! That's really expensive!
Emile
(21,909 posts)is a country church with a huge lawn that borders my woods. There was an old man on a John Deere tractor mowing the church grounds. I was deep in a hollow cutting up a huge Honey Locust tree. I stopped to take a break and was sitting on the tree stump when across the hollow on top the hill that old man with his tractor running started shooting his hand gun blindly into my woods. I stood up with both arms waving and screaming to get his attention. He couldn't hear me over his tractor noise. I started up my small John Deere and turned on my flashers and headlights. He pretended he didn't see me and turned around and got on his tractor and drove off. Whenever I hear gun shots outside now, it scares the shit out of me.
BComplex
(7,984 posts)And really scary. WTF are these people thinking? They've got snakes in their heads.
Emile
(21,909 posts)PXR-5
(522 posts)I'm in Union County NC, non-stop shooting and blasting. Dogs are terrified, can't call the county council or the sheriff's department, because they tell me to mind my own business.
In another year or so we will be moving out of state to a more blue area.
BComplex
(7,984 posts)We're not but 45 minutes east of the big city.
This is beyond what anyone needs in the way of ammunition! What Ukraine wouldn't do to get hold of these guns and bullets! They'd actually put them to good use for a higher purpose.
wnylib
(21,146 posts)czarjak
(11,194 posts)BComplex
(7,984 posts)We've all heard they want a war inside our own country. These people are absolutely nuts.
wnylib
(21,146 posts)performance and the world turning against Putin (and Trump by extension).
I live in an apartment in small city. No explosives here, but the neighbor across the hall from me has two crisscrossed Russian flags on the door, with a Z right below them. At least I know who to beware of when the fighting starts.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Sorry you and your dogs have to go through this. We have some explosion like type of sounds here from the wackos here too, starting from spring through past July 4th. In fact it happens all year round now although more leading up to then and during the summer.
BComplex
(7,984 posts)It really sounded like a huge explosion. They've done it about 5 times today.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)I hope a solution can be figured out. Ours are not as bad and not as often.
aurora the great
(71 posts)I don't live in the country. I don't live in the boonies. I live in the Mid Atlantic states in a small town where you can hear the gun shots firing away at night. Oh this is Trump Country alright and I pray to God every time some "special date" occurs like the Anniversary of Jan 6 or the latest Trump rally that these fine citizens *(translate trigger happy yahoos) don't make a concerted effort to join forces and kick it up a bit. Oh well, we chose to move here (god knows why), But I can't wait to retire and move back to the civilized world, where I lived for almost 60 years give or take a few and I pray. Sorry for prattling but this really hit home.
BComplex
(7,984 posts)Every time there is one of their "hard-on for trump" days, they are out there shooting like there's no tomorrow.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)summer_in_TX
(2,685 posts)The Southern Poverty Law Center probably knows about the group/individuals involved but it wouldn't hurt to contact them with whatever info you have who/what/when/where. They may have advice and resources for you.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)No personal experience with this, but I read a lot.
Great idea Southern Poverty Law Center!
ratchiweenie
(7,744 posts)have them and shoot them off all the time. Often in the middle of the night. I figure they are drunk. I have a guy down my road that comes by all the time with the huge flags flying off the back of his pickup. He had huge Trump banner all over his property. They finally came down a couple of months ago. I assume it's him and his gang. The gunshots always seem to come from that end of the road. It terrifies my little dogs too.
BComplex
(7,984 posts)They sound totally different than fireworks. Automatic weapons. AK-47s. And they have a machine gun of some sort. It's enough to make you terrified.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)sort? They're quite loud, 50 times louder than an AR-15. It's hard to say.
BComplex
(7,984 posts)It's because these guns are sold to crazy people with a bad attitude!
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)NickB79
(19,114 posts)Among other things I enjoy (gardening, planting trees, raising livestock, etc).
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)BComplex
(7,984 posts)how much ammunition costs?
These guys go on for hours on end. One Saturday they started about 2:00 and ended about 8:30 pm.
That's thousands of dollars worth of ammunition.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)way I could afford to shoot for such a length of time on a regular basis.
BComplex
(7,984 posts)Mostly to scare off the buzzards that try to get the squirrels my dogs catch. I don't shoot them to kill them. Just to make them go away. Ok. That's gross. But, hey. It's the country.
NickB79
(19,114 posts)If I'm feeling rich I'll throw a dozen .17 or .223 rounds downrange and call it good 🤣
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)Chuuku Davis
(564 posts)Pigs are active at night so we use night vision. You would be shocked at what pigs can do to a soybean field in a night.
And the occasional coyote gets shot.
marie999
(3,334 posts)It said that the amendment has two parts, the first is about the militia and the second part is about the right of the people.
sanatanadharma
(3,639 posts)...according to the less than a Supreme Court.
A court of last resort, an end of the line, but nothing 'supreme' about this one generation's court of failed men.
No women were responsible for the unmaking of the precedent of "sanity".
sanatanadharma
(3,639 posts)Sounds like a great cover story, a cover-up for the occasional illegal homemade good-ol-boys bomb test.
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)The explosives would be the second.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)doc03
(35,148 posts)Some local guys shot several hundred dollars worth of
Tannerite all at once one day it shook the ground a mile away. The 911 got several calls people thinking a gas well blew.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)with tannerite. Idiots.
BComplex
(7,984 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,178 posts)I can own and fire real cannons without a permit or license in most states. Massachusetts has a license, but it has no fee and is valid for 5 years. Its basically an exam and background check.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,178 posts)Our 1841 mountain howitzer would have in real war fired spherical case, but our target practice in competitions has been with solid shot. We've also demonstrated canister, which is brutal. We set up cardboard targets and counted the hits. Yikes!
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)mbusby
(822 posts)... was used to remove stumps. My grandfather on my dads side used them on the farm.
Wednesdays
(17,249 posts)A canon is a camera, a religious rule, or "Row, row, row your boat."
BComplex
(7,984 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)... to add some spice to their shooting sessions.
Like, putting some inside old tin cans so when you score a hit there's an immediate indication of it.
Understand that shooting paper doesn't give audio or visual feedback and trying to see where bullets are making holes is difficult, so shooting steel targets that move or fall over is popular, especially at longer ranges.
Some people like a touch more feedback, it seems.
If it's during daylight hours and the explosions aren't damaging your property, there probably isn't anything you can do, legally.
SYFROYH
(34,127 posts)Blowin stuff up safely is fun.
This guy got into some trouble for a super large tannerite explosion that caused a dump-truck box to fly.
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vercetti2021
(10,150 posts)A few of my friends make it and go out to a far property outside of the city to shoot guns. Been a few times myself. It's a pretty decent explosion
kcr
(15,300 posts)And have long wondered about the random booms.