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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 03:28 AM Apr 2022

War Crimes



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Her neighbours in a neat brick house four doors down had been tied hand and foot and killed. Down the road, territorial defence fighters said they had found a basement where 18 bodies, men, women and children as young as 14 lay dead, their bodies mutilated.
This is what the Russian forces have left behind as they retreat, destroying everything as they go. Mines have been hidden in the corpses that litter the streets.
Homes are left hollowed out and burnt. Newly built dachas, their gates torn open, are studded with bullets from the firefights that raged here between Ukrainian and Russian forces a few days ago.

Emphasis mine

If Putin ever leaves his bunker again... The Hague needs to put his war criming arse on trial for every single death, every single one.
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War Crimes (Original Post) Soph0571 Apr 2022 OP
Give Ukraine what it needs to WIN this war!! blue-wave Apr 2022 #1
K&R Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #2
And Russian Officers aeromanKC Apr 2022 #3
+1 2naSalit Apr 2022 #8
And some republicans endorse Putin... MiHale Apr 2022 #4
Seriously. They really do. My WWII vet Dad would be outraged over the GOP Russian cult. Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #6
+1 2naSalit Apr 2022 #9
How many more atrocities are NATO leaders willing to accept? Lonestarblue Apr 2022 #5
"Sanctions will not end this war." No, they won't. We are watching more genocide. And it will expand Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #7
... ck4829 Apr 2022 #10
Hold Putin accountable for every gibraltar72 Apr 2022 #11

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
5. How many more atrocities are NATO leaders willing to accept?
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 06:14 AM
Apr 2022

The Russians are brutal, and Putin has brought in forces from Chechnya because they are even more brutal than the Russians. We doubt the Syrian forces being brought in to help Russia will be any better.

It will take months for the sanctions to have a meaningful effect on the Russian economy, and even then Russians are unlikely to rise up against Putin either because of fear or because they support him and think that the invasion is just, that Russia has every right to murder Ukrainians and take their land. I know that government propaganda has an impact on what people believe, but Putin has done this before in Georgia and in Chechnya when Russians had full access to world media and they still supported Putin.

Sanctions will not end this war. Russia needs to be handed a sound defeat and forced out of Ukraine. Even with more weapons, I believe Ukraine will need help to do that. Or they will be forced to give up eastern and southern Ukraine all the way to Odessa for a ceasefire. In a couple of years, Putin will be back for the rest of the country. Giving him any sort of win now will just prolong this war and encourage future wars. I know there is a risk that Putin will order the use of tactical nuclear weapons, but the other risk is a decimated Ukraine and many thousands of Ukrainians murdered by a butcher who cares only for his own power.

Give Ukraine the no-fly zone they need. Otherwise, this war will drag on for many more months if not years.m

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