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drray23

(7,686 posts)
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 09:10 PM Apr 2022

The media needs to show the actual videos of slaughtered civilians

not hide behind the bullshit argument "we made the editorial decision not to show it because it's horrible " as I heard on Nicole Wallace show. It's true across the media. Yet you can find the video Zelensky showed at the UN on YouTube.
Everybody needs to see that, no matter how horrible. Sanitizing the war by censoring the horrible stuff is what led to apathy about the wars in Afghanistan and elsewhere. It's repeating again.

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The media needs to show the actual videos of slaughtered civilians (Original Post) drray23 Apr 2022 OP
I've seen them all day long on CNN. madaboutharry Apr 2022 #1
They were showing them yesterday as well. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2022 #10
They learned the lesson from Viet Nam FoxNewsSucks Apr 2022 #2
The Fucking American Media Is USELESS SoCalDavidS Apr 2022 #3
There's plenty of... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #4
yes and you can indeed find it as I said drray23 Apr 2022 #5
Gun violence in the US, US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Israel/Palestine, US in Vietnam, the US RockRaven Apr 2022 #6
I think they are. stopdiggin Apr 2022 #7
Graphic. Igel Apr 2022 #8
I'm not sure if I agree stopdiggin Apr 2022 #12
Why? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #9
Here's the video from the UN today. rgbecker Apr 2022 #11
All the photos one could ever want are right out in the open. DUers seem to have no difficulty... Hekate Apr 2022 #13
As I said in my OP, its easy to find the actual uncensored videos on the internet drray23 Apr 2022 #14
Troubling thought, but if I were killed like that bhikkhu Apr 2022 #15

madaboutharry

(40,434 posts)
1. I've seen them all day long on CNN.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 09:13 PM
Apr 2022

I don’t know what is going on at MSNBC, but they have been showing dead bodies on CNN since early this morning.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,530 posts)
2. They learned the lesson from Viet Nam
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 09:13 PM
Apr 2022

If the public can see the actual horrors of war, it will be massively opposed.

Censoring the media coverage worked so well for Pappy Bush's Iraq invasion, they will probably never change now.

SoCalDavidS

(9,999 posts)
3. The Fucking American Media Is USELESS
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 09:15 PM
Apr 2022

They won't show the carnage from the daily MASS SHOOTINGS in this country, so why would they show the carnage from Ukraine?

Wouldn't want to damage the delicate sensitivities of squeamish Americans.

2naSalit

(88,823 posts)
4. There's plenty of...
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 09:15 PM
Apr 2022

Images on MSNBC and CNN.

The video that was shown at the UNSC meeting today showed nothing but.

drray23

(7,686 posts)
5. yes and you can indeed find it as I said
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 09:19 PM
Apr 2022

but as I watch msnbc now all images of dead bodies are blurred. They are censoring it because it's horrible and I don't think they should.

RockRaven

(15,515 posts)
6. Gun violence in the US, US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Israel/Palestine, US in Vietnam, the US
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 09:22 PM
Apr 2022

media never properly shows the facts of the subject they are discussing...

stopdiggin

(11,811 posts)
7. I think they are.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 09:38 PM
Apr 2022

we (and they) might disagree somewhat on just how graphic (or close up shots) things need to be. But the 'coverage' is certainly there. (and the world is appropriately sickened and appalled)

Igel

(35,698 posts)
8. Graphic.
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 09:43 PM
Apr 2022

Any blurring "fakes" the news.

People react badly?

They should.

In which case "blurring" keeps them from their true, real, authentic reactions--and lets them continue to say, "Eh, not really that bad."

stopdiggin

(11,811 posts)
12. I'm not sure if I agree
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 10:18 PM
Apr 2022

And I'm not sure if others - both in the general public, but more specifically in print and media executives - agree. It might be possible to argue that you lose a certain amount of 'audience' - by 'pushing' toward either end of the spectrum. I guess that why we have discussions.
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And the percentage of people saying "Eh .. not that bad" - in reaction to what we're seeing today?
Awfully low - my opinion.

Hekate

(92,320 posts)
13. All the photos one could ever want are right out in the open. DUers seem to have no difficulty...
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 10:28 PM
Apr 2022

…finding them and posting (with suitable warnings of their graphic nature) the photos, the links, the sources.

What more do you want? What’s missing, in your opinion? Lotsa gore with your dinner? The skeletal buildings and bodies scattered in the street aren’t enough? Are close-ups needed?

I agree with both Nicolle Wallace and Katy Tur, by the way. They both have young children, and both of them send the kids out of the room during the evening news.

Yet they are reporting honestly, interviewing war correspondents on-site who are themselves interviewing civilian victims. They show enough and they use their words to describe what’s going on.

If you think that’s “sanitizing” rather than using a certain amount of judgment, well…

drray23

(7,686 posts)
14. As I said in my OP, its easy to find the actual uncensored videos on the internet
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 10:38 PM
Apr 2022

What I object to is the fact that on live TV it is sanitized. War is ugly and horrible. There is no way around it. Making it less shocking for people sitting in their living room is what leads to apathy. At least, that is my opinion.

bhikkhu

(10,738 posts)
15. Troubling thought, but if I were killed like that
Tue Apr 5, 2022, 10:53 PM
Apr 2022

I'd be fine with my gruesome remains being aired publicly as long and as often as it took for something to be done about it. Being dead. of course I wouldn't care about my privacy or whatever being respected. Just absolutely whatever it took for the same to not happen to someone else.

Preventing more of that requires eyes wide open, which is going to make some people uncomfortable. So it goes.

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