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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTexas: We're Going To Bus Undocumented Migrants To D.C.; Florida: Hold My Beer
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis race to pull the most reactionary culture war stunt in response to the Biden administration's decision to lift Title 42 border restrictions.Texas Governor Greg Abbott and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis appear locked in a competition: Who can best channel the latest free-floating right-wing grievance into state policy? The rules of this game are simple: Every time one of these governors releases a salvo into the nations culture wars, the other has to match it or exceed it. Voting rights, the pandemic, reproductive rights on issue after issue, these two have raced to put forth the most reactionary policy possible. Now, with Joe Biden announcing plans to lift his predecessors pandemic-era border restrictions, a policy known as Title 42, the GOP governors have turned to immigration.
On Wednesday, Abbott announced plans to bus undocumented immigrants to the steps of the United States Capitol as a kind of protest against the Biden border disaster, as he described it. To help local officials whose communities are being overwhelmed by hordes of illegal immigrants who are being dropped off by the administration, Abbott said in a press conference in Weslasco, near the U.S. border with Mexico, Texas is providing charter buses to send these illegal immigrants who have been dropped off by the Biden administration to Washington, D.C.
Though he presented the plan as something no state has done in American history to secure our border, it doesnt quite go as far as he claimed; as the Texas Tribune reported, the program as proposed would be voluntary for the migrants, and they could only get on the buses or planes to D.C. after theyd been processed by the Department of Homeland Security. Still, Abbotts plot was immediately denounced by immigration advocates. If Abbott focused on solutions instead of stunts, Democrat Beto ORourke, who is challenging Abbott for the governors mansion this fall, said in a statement, then Texas could have made some real progress on the issue over the last seven years.
Not to be outdone, though, DeSantis teased his own plan later Wednesday suggesting that he, too, could bus out undocumented immigrants to Bidens home state of Delaware. What were doing in Florida is saying, Were not gonna let the recklessness of those policies impact our state, DeSantis said. If Biden is dumping people we now have money where we can reroute them to sanctuary states like Delaware.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/ron-desantis-greg-abbott-title-42-immigration
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Texas: We're Going To Bus Undocumented Migrants To D.C.; Florida: Hold My Beer (Original Post)
Zorro
Apr 2022
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Gov. Greg Abbott's plan to bus migrants to Washington, D.C., will be voluntary
LetMyPeopleVote
Apr 2022
#2
Isn't forcibly transporting & abandoning someone against their will a form of kidnapping ?
eppur_se_muova
Apr 2022
#4
meh. Abbott hopes to win the hearts of Texas' Gas Oil & Petroleum gang
struggle4progress
Apr 2022
#6
"Wait...you're offering me a free bus ride out of this hellhole state? Yes, please!"
tanyev
Apr 2022
#10
Gov. Abbott's threat to bus migrants to Washington isn't quite what he made it out to be
LetMyPeopleVote
Apr 2022
#14
lame54
(37,274 posts)1. More meth for the rest of them
usedtobedemgurl
(1,462 posts)9. Are you saying undocumented workers...
Are meth addicts?
LetMyPeopleVote
(156,367 posts)2. Gov. Greg Abbott's plan to bus migrants to Washington, D.C., will be voluntary
This is a stunt https://www.texastribune.org/2022/04/06/greg-abbott-texas-border-title-42/
But soon after the press conference, Abbott's office released more details about the plan that struck a notably softer tone.
The governor's office clarified that the program is completely voluntary for migrants and would happen only after they had been processed and released by the Department of Homeland Security. And in addition to buses, Abbott also ordered the state to charter flights to transport migrants to the nation's capital. The migrants would have to show documentation that they had already been processed by DHS. Many immigration advocates have noted that providing transportation services for asylum-seekers to reach their final destination is something the state should invest in.
Abbott's announcement led to immediate criticism from both his left and his right. Immigration rights groups said his rhetoric was still dangerous.
"Any forcible busing of migrants across the country would be outrageous and blatantly unconstitutional," Kate Huddleston, a staff attorney at ACLU of Texas, said in a statement. "Given that Abbott cannot dictate where people are sent, he has already backpedaled on this heinous plan, announcing that it will be only voluntary."
The governor's office clarified that the program is completely voluntary for migrants and would happen only after they had been processed and released by the Department of Homeland Security. And in addition to buses, Abbott also ordered the state to charter flights to transport migrants to the nation's capital. The migrants would have to show documentation that they had already been processed by DHS. Many immigration advocates have noted that providing transportation services for asylum-seekers to reach their final destination is something the state should invest in.
Abbott's announcement led to immediate criticism from both his left and his right. Immigration rights groups said his rhetoric was still dangerous.
"Any forcible busing of migrants across the country would be outrageous and blatantly unconstitutional," Kate Huddleston, a staff attorney at ACLU of Texas, said in a statement. "Given that Abbott cannot dictate where people are sent, he has already backpedaled on this heinous plan, announcing that it will be only voluntary."
Greg's own staff made clear that persons can only bussed if they agree and only after they have been processed and released by DHS
Link to tweet
No one will bus without their consent and only after being processed by DHS. This is a rather lame stunt
UTUSN
(72,910 posts)7. Kidnapping yesterday, consent today. These 2 pos wingnuts arrgh
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)3. Oh FFSake, ABBOTT!! HOW MUCH MORE AWFUL CAN YOU GET WHILE YOU SLAM
YOUR HANDS DOWN ON YOUR WHEELCHAIR OR THE DAMNED TABLE IN FRONT OF YOUR SORRY ASS?? GOOD GOSH ALMIGHTY, YOU MUST BE TOSSED IN NOVEMBER!!!!
eppur_se_muova
(37,877 posts)4. Isn't forcibly transporting & abandoning someone against their will a form of kidnapping ?
Sounds like TX could be about to break the law.
Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)8. Per the article, going on the buses will be voluntary.
eppur_se_muova
(37,877 posts)12. Texas "voluntary", we can assume. nt
C_U_L8R
(45,845 posts)5. Kidnapping political hostages
This will get interesting when they take their captives across state lines.
Even with consent, it seems like coercion or blackmail.
struggle4progress
(120,660 posts)6. meh. Abbott hopes to win the hearts of Texas' Gas Oil & Petroleum gang
by threatening to sending a convoy of hundreds of empty buses to DC to drive in endless circles around the beltway
tanyev
(44,902 posts)10. "Wait...you're offering me a free bus ride out of this hellhole state? Yes, please!"
FSogol
(46,918 posts)11. Bragging about an interstate kidnapping plan?
Since every single restaurant, construction company, farm, brewery, and retail store in the VA/MD/DC area is hiring, please proceed.
Deep State Witch
(11,443 posts)13. We Have A Labor Shortage Here in the DC Area
We have a labor shortage in the DC area, because a lot of people left service jobs during the lockdown. We'll be happy to put them to work!
LetMyPeopleVote
(156,367 posts)14. Gov. Abbott's threat to bus migrants to Washington isn't quite what he made it out to be
Greg lied about his program. It is voluntary
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https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/Gov-Abbott-s-threat-to-bus-migrants-to-17064833.php?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=twitter.com
When Gov. Greg Abbott announced Wednesday that Texas would transport apprehended migrants to Washington, D.C., he left the impression that people would be forcibly shipped off to the U.S. Capitol as soon as they crossed the border illegally and were rounded up by state authorities.
But a few hours after Abbott rolled out the plan at a press conference, the governor's office revealed several new details that painted a much different picture. In a news release, Abbott's office clarified that Texas would only transport migrants to Washington and other destinations outside the state if they wanted to go there and had already been processed and released by federal authorities.
Asked Thursday by Fox News host Dana Perino about the plan, Abbott said forced bus trips would run afoul of the law.
Dana, if I were to go to Washington, D.C. and put you on a bus and take you down to the Rio Grande Valley, that would be kidnapping, Abbott said. Same thing applies to anybody who refuses to get onto a bus. That would be kidnapping, even though it would be by a law enforcement agency. So, there are laws that have to be followed in this process.
But a few hours after Abbott rolled out the plan at a press conference, the governor's office revealed several new details that painted a much different picture. In a news release, Abbott's office clarified that Texas would only transport migrants to Washington and other destinations outside the state if they wanted to go there and had already been processed and released by federal authorities.
Asked Thursday by Fox News host Dana Perino about the plan, Abbott said forced bus trips would run afoul of the law.
Dana, if I were to go to Washington, D.C. and put you on a bus and take you down to the Rio Grande Valley, that would be kidnapping, Abbott said. Same thing applies to anybody who refuses to get onto a bus. That would be kidnapping, even though it would be by a law enforcement agency. So, there are laws that have to be followed in this process.
Link to tweet