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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat the hell is happening in China? Dragging residents out of their apts
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2022/apr/14/police-in-hazmat-suits-scuffle-with-people-in-shanghai-videoPolice in hazmat suits were filmed grabbing screaming Shanghai residents in a video circulated on Chinese social media on Thursday. Users of the Chinese microblogging site Weibo claimed that local authorities had decided to take over several residential buildings in Zhangjiang county in Pudong district to quarantine Covid patients.
Videos show residents kneeling on the ground, begging the police not to take them away, and dozens of officers scuffling with civilians and dragging some of them to the middle of the street
Demovictory9
(32,421 posts)PatSeg
(47,260 posts)at the beginning of the COVID outbreak. So disturbing.
progressoid
(49,945 posts)I heard some jagoff saying that he thinks Fauci would love to do this in America.
Cheezoholic
(2,006 posts)maybe something new or a newer scarier variant . Who the fuck knows anymore.
634-5789
(4,175 posts)Not paranoid but if it's something as bad as I think, we're going to get it too.
womanofthehills
(8,661 posts)It sure seems extreme
joshdawg
(2,646 posts)then one should NOT vote for ANY republican.
republicans won't do this to quarantine covid patients, they will do it because they can..............if America does not wake up and not allow any republican to gain any office. They only want power and money.
Phuque republicans!
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)in this country with so many armed with multiple guns? That isnt going to be happening any time soon.
joshdawg
(2,646 posts)Well, see what happens IF republicans win back in '22 or '24.
Don't know about you, but I have never trusted republicans for the last 6 decades to do anything but follow a fascist playbook.
SergeStorms
(19,186 posts)started making the rounds of Wuhan they welded everyone's doors shut. That's a little harsh too. The Chinese government does not fuck around.
And this totalitarian bullshit looks good to certain right-wing nutsacks in our country?
Roy Rolling
(6,908 posts)Dictators and their sycophants dont care as long as theyre on the right side of the door.
You can tell who they arethey own the door-welding corporation.
speak easy
(9,177 posts)ding ding ding!
SergeStorms
(19,186 posts)how bad the virus was and made the initial predictions about how bad it could get in the U.S.
Dr. Nancy Messinnier, a CDC official, saw the Chinese news clip about Chinese officials welding people's doors shut in Wuhan and knew how bad this was going to get. This was then reported to Trump......and the rest is history. Dr. Messianic was silenced, and Trump fucked everything up beyond belief.
Yes, a very true and extremely sad story. If only Hillary had been president then, hundreds of thousands of lives would have been saved.
Irish_Dem
(46,492 posts)speak easy
(9,177 posts)The owners of the compound said five of its vacant buildings had been converted into isolation facilities A resident of the compound said the buildings were unsuitable for quarantine
In an incident live streamed on Chinese messaging platform WeChat on Thursday afternoon, about 30 people wearing hazmat suits with the word "police" on their back could be seen scuffling with other people outside a housing compound, taking away at least one person.
A woman could be heard weeping as she filmed the scene, which was watched by more than 10,000 people before it was abruptly cut, with the WeChat live-stream platform announcing it had contained "dangerous content".
"It's not that I don't want to cooperate with the country, but how would you feel if you live in a building where the blocks are only 10 metres apart, everyone has tested negative, and these people are allowed in?," said the woman who was filming and did not disclose her real name.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-15/shanghai-turns-residences-into-covid-isolation-facilities/100994772
keopeli
(3,491 posts)Celerity
(43,097 posts)SOEs (state-owned enterprises). It is (to a fairly large degree) a centrally-planned economy (mimicking some elements of dirigisme) when looking at some of the linkages.
Deffo not communism (as China allows private share ownership in many enterprises), regardless of whatever label anyone, including the Chinese themselves, slaps on it.
SmallFry
(349 posts)I stay somewhat well read and do read a good amount about China. Im not sure I fully understand how their government operates outside of grand basics. I think a lot of people think they understand its structure but simply rely on historical perceptions and propaganda. Only so much time to learn. 😁
Celerity
(43,097 posts)Elizabeth C. Economy
https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781509537495
Description
An economic and military superpower with 20 percent of the world's population, China has the wherewithal to transform the international system. Xi Jinping's bold calls for China to "lead in the reform of the global governance system" suggest that he has just such an ambition. But how does he plan to realize it? And what does it mean for the rest of the world?
In this compelling book, Elizabeth Economy reveals China's ambitious new strategy to reclaim the country's past glory and reshape the geostrategic landscape in dramatic new ways. Xi's vision is one of Chinese centrality on the global stage, in which the mainland has realized its sovereignty claims over Hong Kong, Taiwan, and the South China Sea, deepened its global political, economic, and security reach through its grand-scale Belt and Road Initiative, and used its leadership in the United Nations and other institutions to align international norms and values, particularly around human rights, with those of China. It is a world radically different from that of today. The international community needs to understand and respond to the great risks, as well as the potential opportunities, of a world rebuilt by China.
Polity Press, 9781509537495, 304pp.
Publication Date: January 4, 2022
Chinas true ambitions, and what they mean for the U.S.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/01/28/chinas-true-ambitions-what-they-mean-us/
That Chinas rise poses a deep challenge to the United States is a belief now widely shared among policymakers and the public, with roughly 9 in 10 Americans viewing the country as a threat or a competitor, according to a recent Pew survey. Too often what is lacking, however, is the why, with China portrayed as a one-dimensional villain out to eat our lunch, a framing all too common in Washington these days. That simplistic characterization ignores a much more complicated reality in which both countries economies and societies are deeply entwined, and it avoids considering what drives Beijings deeply ambitious leaders and what they hope to achieve. That is an obstacle to effective policymaking.
The World According to China, a new book by Elizabeth C. Economy, goes a long way toward addressing that problem. By carefully examining Chinese leaders economic, political and military goals and explaining how they aim to displace the United States from its ascendant status, Economy has written a guidebook to understanding and dealing with this rising superpower. Economy, on leave from Stanford Universitys Hoover Institution while she serves as a senior adviser at the Commerce Department, makes it painfully clear that the earlier policy of strategic engagement, which was behind the decision to welcome China into the World Trade Organization in 2001, is badly outdated. Inevitably, Washington and Beijing will increasingly butt heads over global leadership, with President Xi Jinping aiming for no less than the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation, as he has put it. The world according to China one which celebrates Chinese centrality as a geographic, as well as political and economic construct is one that leaves little room for the United States, its allies, and the values and norms they support, Economy writes.
As China pushes to expand its influence around the world, Economy distinguishes among its uses of three kinds of power. Soft power is seen in Beijings efforts to boost its international reputation by presenting its authoritarian governing style as a model for dealing with the pandemic, including by providing vaccines to countries around the world, and in the expansion of its state-owned media outlets to reach new audiences in Africa and Latin America. Hard power is on display in its ongoing military intimidation of Taiwan and the squelching of Hong Kong democracy, as well as the construction of airstrips on reefs in the contested South China Sea and the opening of its first overseas military logistics base, in Djibouti. In one of many instances where Economy describes her interactions with key actors in the rise of China, something that makes her book even more convincing, she recounts talking to two military scholars in Beijing who casually tell her that their country eventually should have just as many military bases around the world as the United States does.
Economy does a masterful job of explaining Chinas use of sharp power, which centers on distraction and manipulation, as the Journal of Democracy put it in a 2018 report describing the new concept. Sharp power is increasingly on display as Beijing uses access to Chinas vast market as leverage over multinational corporations. When, for example, international airlines websites seemed to suggest that Taiwan was separate from China, and when global brands publicly stated their concern about human rights abuses against the Muslim ethnic minority in Xinjiang, consumer boycotts organized on Chinas tightly controlled Internet were wielded to ensure that those companies quickly reversed course and toed the partys line. Similarly, the longtime practice of coerced technology transfer, or demanding that multinationals transfer technology as the price of doing business in Chinas enticing market, falls into this category.
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okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)keopeli
(3,491 posts):lol:
I do appreciate your clarity. Still, I was referring more specifically to this particular episode, which is very typical of communist control mechanisms over property that is all owned by the state.
Celerity
(43,097 posts)obamanut2012
(26,046 posts)And hasn't been for a long time.
Hekate
(90,555 posts)Amishman
(5,554 posts)We really need to understand and accept that China is an evil on the same level as Russia, just one that is currently focused inward.