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Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:15 PM

MTG hearing clearly shows that the obvious reason that MTG couldn't

simply and honestly say "No" to most of the questions is because she would be lying.

Who would have thought?

I personally do not think that the plaintiff's lawyer did a very good job. He could have pressed every "I don't recall
with a "So then, you are NOT denying that you were there or said that, correct?".

He only did that a handful of times.

That she was considered a hostile witness by the judge probably holds more weight than anything the plaintiff's lawyer got her to say during the hearing.

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Reply MTG hearing clearly shows that the obvious reason that MTG couldn't (Original post)
TeamProg Apr 2022 OP
onecaliberal Apr 2022 #1
Walleye Apr 2022 #2
niyad Apr 2022 #6
randr Apr 2022 #3
erronis Apr 2022 #5
Hamlette Apr 2022 #4
PJMcK Apr 2022 #7
elleng Apr 2022 #9
VGNonly Apr 2022 #8
wnylib Apr 2022 #10
TeamProg Apr 2022 #11
Captain Zero Apr 2022 #12
TeamProg Apr 2022 #13
brooklynite Apr 2022 #19
Leith Apr 2022 #14
kacekwl Apr 2022 #15
TeamProg Apr 2022 #17
chowder66 Apr 2022 #16
brooklynite Apr 2022 #18

Response to TeamProg (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:20 PM

1. She very clearly ran from her record.

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Response to TeamProg (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:29 PM

2. She stammered over whether she believes in QAnon or not

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Response to Walleye (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:49 PM

6. "Q is a patriot. We know that for sure"

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Response to TeamProg (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:29 PM

3. She didn't want to be caught telling the truth

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Response to randr (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:42 PM

5. Sadly, you are right. They are all on the side of falshoods now.

Not going to be easy having a discussion or especially any reconciliation with these brainwashed specimens.

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Response to TeamProg (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:36 PM

4. the ruling she was hostile is meaningless

half of all witnesses are considered adverse or hostile. All it means is that MTG was acting as an adversary and the attorney can ask leading questions. It's legal speak and happens in most if not all trials.

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Response to Hamlette (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:50 PM

7. Precisely

People shouldn’t make that big of a deal about it as it won’t affect the outcome.

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Response to Hamlette (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:32 PM

9. Thanks, hoped someone would clarify this: 'legal speak'

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Response to TeamProg (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:56 PM

8. Did the gazpacho police

attack with Jewish space lasers?

" Yes...um...wait...um...I don't recall"

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Response to TeamProg (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:48 PM

10. Couldn't the plaintiff's attorney produce

some video or audio recordings to help jog her memory?

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Response to wnylib (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:52 PM

11. One would think! n/t

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Response to TeamProg (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:01 PM

12. She never hems and haws at a Rally does she?

Never stands in front of Magats and says
Ah, uhm. Uh. I don't recall.

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Response to Captain Zero (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:02 PM

13. +1 !!!

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Response to TeamProg (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:18 PM

19. He did, when he had them.

Most of his questions were not supported by backup evidence.

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Response to TeamProg (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:06 PM

14. It looked to me like Bopp and emptyG were well prepared

She knew when to say "yes," when to say "no," and mostly when to say "I don't recall." Since she asked for questions to be rephrased so often tells me that she was shopping for certain phrases that she had been coached on.

As for the other side, again my opinion - it looked like they were not prepared. The lawyer for the plaintiff shuffled through papers too much, was unclear on what video clips were what, and they had not arranged for simple laptop to screen visuals that anyone who cracked open a PowerPoint for Dummies book could have done smoothly.

Added to that, knowing that rethugs dismiss any news outlet outside of Fox News, OAN, and NewsMax as "fake news," they should have used clips of her speaking the words she claimed were taken out of context without letting it slip that the source was Mother Jones. Would anyone here accept a video sourced from a reichwing source as a serious piece of evidence in a court proceeding? Of course not.

I have run meetings in corporate settings and taught language classes in my professional careers. The key to a successful presentation comes down to preparation preparation preparation. Notice that I did not say experience, massive brain power, or the oratorical skill of Alan Shore.* You just need the ability to stand in front of the audience, have all your ducks in an organized row, and methodically show the evidence without having to take a recess to find it.

* I've been binge watching Boston Legal. While I would never want to be a friend or colleague of James Spader's character, he sure is fun to watch.

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Response to TeamProg (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:33 PM

15. So it obvious this weak spined woman

doesn't really believe what she says to her dipshit followers. If she was proud of her stance she wouldn't be afraid to answer. I wonder if her flock will see she's not as committed to the fraud as they thought. Wake up dummies you're being used.

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Response to kacekwl (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:12 PM

17. Excellent points there, Jimmy! n/t

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Response to TeamProg (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 06:18 PM

16. I heard him ask her that a few times (if she was not denying...).

Also, a couple of lawyers on twitter Terry Kanefield is one I think was saying that he was getting her on record, not trying gotcha questions. The fact that she didn't say NO was getting her on record of not denying anything. It's difficult to prove anything but an judge should be able to see that she was lying....something to that effect.

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Response to TeamProg (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:17 PM

18. " you are NOT denying that you were there"

If he had said that, MTG’s attorney would have objected, and would have been sustained. An Attorney cannot speculate about motives or facts not in evidence.

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