Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:15 PM
TeamProg (3,405 posts)
MTG hearing clearly shows that the obvious reason that MTG couldn't
simply and honestly say "No" to most of the questions is because she would be lying.
Who would have thought? I personally do not think that the plaintiff's lawyer did a very good job. He could have pressed every "I don't recall with a "So then, you are NOT denying that you were there or said that, correct?". He only did that a handful of times. That she was considered a hostile witness by the judge probably holds more weight than anything the plaintiff's lawyer got her to say during the hearing.
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TeamProg | Apr 2022 | OP |
onecaliberal | Apr 2022 | #1 | |
Walleye | Apr 2022 | #2 | |
niyad | Apr 2022 | #6 | |
randr | Apr 2022 | #3 | |
erronis | Apr 2022 | #5 | |
Hamlette | Apr 2022 | #4 | |
PJMcK | Apr 2022 | #7 | |
elleng | Apr 2022 | #9 | |
VGNonly | Apr 2022 | #8 | |
wnylib | Apr 2022 | #10 | |
TeamProg | Apr 2022 | #11 | |
Captain Zero | Apr 2022 | #12 | |
TeamProg | Apr 2022 | #13 | |
brooklynite | Apr 2022 | #19 | |
Leith | Apr 2022 | #14 | |
kacekwl | Apr 2022 | #15 | |
TeamProg | Apr 2022 | #17 | |
chowder66 | Apr 2022 | #16 | |
brooklynite | Apr 2022 | #18 |
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:20 PM
onecaliberal (29,312 posts)
1. She very clearly ran from her record.
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:29 PM
Walleye (22,793 posts)
2. She stammered over whether she believes in QAnon or not
Response to Walleye (Reply #2)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:49 PM
niyad (98,957 posts)
6. "Q is a patriot. We know that for sure"
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 01:29 PM
randr (12,100 posts)
3. She didn't want to be caught telling the truth
Response to randr (Reply #3)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:42 PM
erronis (12,340 posts)
5. Sadly, you are right. They are all on the side of falshoods now.
Not going to be easy having a discussion or especially any reconciliation with these brainwashed specimens.
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:36 PM
Hamlette (15,105 posts)
4. the ruling she was hostile is meaningless
half of all witnesses are considered adverse or hostile. All it means is that MTG was acting as an adversary and the attorney can ask leading questions. It's legal speak and happens in most if not all trials.
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Response to Hamlette (Reply #4)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:50 PM
PJMcK (19,948 posts)
7. Precisely
People shouldn’t make that big of a deal about it as it won’t affect the outcome.
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Response to Hamlette (Reply #4)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:32 PM
elleng (122,887 posts)
9. Thanks, hoped someone would clarify this: 'legal speak'
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 02:56 PM
VGNonly (6,902 posts)
8. Did the gazpacho police
attack with Jewish space lasers?
" Yes...um...wait...um...I don't recall" ![]() |
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:48 PM
wnylib (17,311 posts)
10. Couldn't the plaintiff's attorney produce
some video or audio recordings to help jog her memory?
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Response to wnylib (Reply #10)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 03:52 PM
TeamProg (3,405 posts)
11. One would think! n/t
Response to TeamProg (Reply #11)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:01 PM
Captain Zero (5,468 posts)
12. She never hems and haws at a Rally does she?
Never stands in front of Magats and says
Ah, uhm. Uh. I don't recall. |
Response to TeamProg (Reply #11)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:18 PM
brooklynite (85,594 posts)
19. He did, when he had them.
Most of his questions were not supported by backup evidence.
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:06 PM
Leith (7,656 posts)
14. It looked to me like Bopp and emptyG were well prepared
She knew when to say "yes," when to say "no," and mostly when to say "I don't recall." Since she asked for questions to be rephrased so often tells me that she was shopping for certain phrases that she had been coached on.
As for the other side, again my opinion - it looked like they were not prepared. The lawyer for the plaintiff shuffled through papers too much, was unclear on what video clips were what, and they had not arranged for simple laptop to screen visuals that anyone who cracked open a PowerPoint for Dummies book could have done smoothly. Added to that, knowing that rethugs dismiss any news outlet outside of Fox News, OAN, and NewsMax as "fake news," they should have used clips of her speaking the words she claimed were taken out of context without letting it slip that the source was Mother Jones. Would anyone here accept a video sourced from a reichwing source as a serious piece of evidence in a court proceeding? Of course not. I have run meetings in corporate settings and taught language classes in my professional careers. The key to a successful presentation comes down to preparation preparation preparation. Notice that I did not say experience, massive brain power, or the oratorical skill of Alan Shore.* You just need the ability to stand in front of the audience, have all your ducks in an organized row, and methodically show the evidence without having to take a recess to find it. * I've been binge watching Boston Legal. While I would never want to be a friend or colleague of James Spader's character, he sure is fun to watch. |
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:33 PM
kacekwl (6,671 posts)
15. So it obvious this weak spined woman
doesn't really believe what she says to her dipshit followers. If she was proud of her stance she wouldn't be afraid to answer. I wonder if her flock will see she's not as committed to the fraud as they thought. Wake up dummies you're being used.
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Response to kacekwl (Reply #15)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:12 PM
TeamProg (3,405 posts)
17. Excellent points there, Jimmy! n/t
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 06:18 PM
chowder66 (7,945 posts)
16. I heard him ask her that a few times (if she was not denying...).
Also, a couple of lawyers on twitter Terry Kanefield is one I think was saying that he was getting her on record, not trying gotcha questions. The fact that she didn't say NO was getting her on record of not denying anything. It's difficult to prove anything but an judge should be able to see that she was lying....something to that effect.
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:17 PM
brooklynite (85,594 posts)
18. " you are NOT denying that you were there"
If he had said that, MTG’s attorney would have objected, and would have been sustained. An Attorney cannot speculate about motives or facts not in evidence.
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