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True Dough

(17,302 posts)
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:15 AM May 2022

Who's the last Republican politician that you truly respected?

It's such a terrible lot today. Atrocious, really.

I can name very few current Republicans at the federal or the state level who I think are decent individuals (but I'm not familiar with some of them state by state).

I guess it would have to be Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney because they've seen the light, although Cheney still holds many positions that I abhor.

I cast back to perhaps John McCain because I think of that presidential campaign moment when he corrected that lady in the audience who denigrated Obama because she thought he was a Muslim. But that was just a honorable moment (and, in fairness, McCain did have years of honorable military service). But there were many things I disagreed with him on and could never vote for him.

Maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger as governor of California? But his fiscal performance was very poor (not to mention what he did to Maria Shriver).

There are just a lot of disgusting Republican politicians.

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Who's the last Republican politician that you truly respected? (Original Post) True Dough May 2022 OP
Olympia Snowe /nt Wahyee May 2022 #1
And my dad Wahyee May 2022 #30
Abe Lincoln rickford66 May 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m May 2022 #3
Ike. And he'd be a moderate Dem now. brush May 2022 #4
Arne Carlson MN Governor CrackityJones75 May 2022 #5
Charlie Baker PuraVidaDreamin May 2022 #6
I don't hate markie May 2022 #7
Teresa Frizzel.. Former mayor here... IngridsLittleAngel May 2022 #8
Eisenhower Jerry2144 May 2022 #9
Not technically a politician, but Betty Ford. lkinwi May 2022 #10
Theodore Roosevelt... Hugin May 2022 #11
He qualifies as a "socialist" these days JHB May 2022 #27
He had his downside, too. Hugin May 2022 #29
Sure, but the point stands: a revered Republican who would be called "socialist" JHB May 2022 #34
George H. W. Bush. Back before I found out what a handsy creep he was. Aristus May 2022 #12
I credit him with the last wheezing gasp of Republican "fiscal responsibility" JHB May 2022 #33
Remember Bush called Reagan's economics "Voodoo economics" because he knew the trickle down okaawhatever May 2022 #57
None. clementine613 May 2022 #13
MA Senator Edward Brooke marie999 May 2022 #14
Gerald Ford and Jacob Javits. NNadir May 2022 #15
Joe Manchin toesonthenose May 2022 #16
Eisenhower. Polly Hennessey May 2022 #17
None Solly Mack May 2022 #18
Eisenhower Emile May 2022 #19
Margaret Chase Smith... 2naSalit May 2022 #20
Old family friend. bluedigger May 2022 #24
From that meeting I mostly recall... 2naSalit May 2022 #31
I don't remember meeting her. bluedigger May 2022 #42
Sen. John Warner and Marshall Coleman underpants May 2022 #21
Bill Cohen bluedigger May 2022 #22
Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney are good mentions 867-5309. May 2022 #23
He is growing on me... True Dough May 2022 #67
I voted for Ford in 1976 LeftInTX May 2022 #25
Robert Marion LaFollette Lithos May 2022 #26
The Late Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN) Mad_Machine76 May 2022 #28
He'd be my choice too. n/t FSogol May 2022 #35
Honestly there aren't any. hamsterjill May 2022 #32
Well, it seems your intuition True Dough May 2022 #50
I think Will Hurd seems legit to me... SKKY May 2022 #36
Oregon Governor Tom McCall Thunderbeast May 2022 #37
Repsected is a far different standard than agreeing with, let alone supporting Tom Rinaldo May 2022 #38
I was born when Eisenhower was President MuseRider May 2022 #39
Dan Evans former Washington state governor and US Senator Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2022 #40
Eisenhower. MineralMan May 2022 #41
Paul Coverdell Blecht May 2022 #43
None... AZ_Latina May 2022 #44
Eisenhower - if he were alive today he'd be a great Democrat FakeNoose May 2022 #45
He would be the one I'd list MurrayDelph May 2022 #52
Yep, I guess he would be the best one I can think of mvd May 2022 #62
None. (nt) Duncan Grant May 2022 #46
Eisenhower rurallib May 2022 #47
The last Republican I ever voted for was Everett Dirksen. Midnight Writer May 2022 #48
I didn't see your post before I responded, and I agree, Edgar seems to be a good man. n/t phylny May 2022 #56
PA Senator John Heinz. blue neen May 2022 #49
Pete McCloskey and Lowell Weicker UnderThisLaw May 2022 #51
Pete McCloskey actually became a Democrat and cast his vote for Biden in the California EC... Beautiful Disaster Jun 2023 #72
Probably John McCain. bearsfootball516 May 2022 #53
Thatcher Longstreth DFW May 2022 #54
Jim Edgar, former Governor of Illinois. phylny May 2022 #55
Larry Hogan of Maryland Deep State Witch May 2022 #58
Locally here in Philly - our (now former) BumRushDaShow May 2022 #59
That's a hard one mvd May 2022 #60
Nice question BlueCheeseAgain May 2022 #61
President Eisenhower Marthe48 May 2022 #63
Agree MsLeopard May 2022 #66
Barry Goldwater ChazII May 2022 #64
Abraham Lincoln. n/t Coventina May 2022 #65
I still feel a little guilty for thinking this was hilarious: betsuni May 2022 #68
Don't feel guilty. It is hilarious! smirkymonkey May 2022 #69
Don't feel guilty. It is hilarious! smirkymonkey May 2022 #70
Nixon Tickle May 2022 #71

Response to True Dough (Original post)

PuraVidaDreamin

(4,100 posts)
6. Charlie Baker
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:24 AM
May 2022

He's my govenor, and I respect him for how he handled the crap
Trump threw at him during the early months of Covid.

He still infuriates me quite often.

markie

(22,756 posts)
7. I don't hate
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:27 AM
May 2022

our Governor Phil Scott ...not sure how much I respect him, except he has been very vocal about his contempt for Trump (he voted for Biden) and for this draft of Alito's and he did a good job with Covid in the State

thought Hagel was ok

.............




 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
8. Teresa Frizzel.. Former mayor here...
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:27 AM
May 2022

And the last person involved in the city government here who seemed to care about this city. Mind you, that was close to 30 years ago now...

On a national level? Probably Ike, who would almost certainly be a Democrat if he were around today (as Brush pointed out above.)

lkinwi

(1,477 posts)
10. Not technically a politician, but Betty Ford.
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:29 AM
May 2022

She’s my “go to” when someone tries to dismissively tell me that I hate all Republicans.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
27. He qualifies as a "socialist" these days
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:45 AM
May 2022

...what with favoring progressive income taxes, old age pensions, curbs on corporate power, etc.

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
29. He had his downside, too.
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:50 AM
May 2022

Questions like this are ridiculous after the party platforms swapped with Skinny Nixon's southern strategy.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
34. Sure, but the point stands: a revered Republican who would be called "socialist"
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:58 AM
May 2022

Not even "would be." Some conservatives back in his day did call him that for the points I noted.

Aristus

(66,323 posts)
12. George H. W. Bush. Back before I found out what a handsy creep he was.
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:31 AM
May 2022

At least he walked the walk. Decorated WWII combat pilot; youngest aviator in U.S. Naval history (his family used their wealth to help him get into the service, not out of it; imagine that), Ambassador to China, head of the CIA, two-term Vice President, a so-so President, and a guy who still went skydiving in his nineties.

Also the last Republican I ever voted for. Thirty years ago.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
33. I credit him with the last wheezing gasp of Republican "fiscal responsibility"
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:55 AM
May 2022

The '86 tax cuts were unsustainable, so he agreed to a (feeble) hike. and his party's radicals crucified him for it.

Radicals like Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, and other stars of the conservative movement.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
57. Remember Bush called Reagan's economics "Voodoo economics" because he knew the trickle down
Thu May 5, 2022, 12:38 PM
May 2022

crap was just that. That position cost him a lot of voters.

He also very publicly quit the NRA when they called the Secret Service "jack booted thugs".

He pulled out of Kuwait without getting Hussein because all reports told him that getting involved in Iraq would lead to "endless war" with no real benefit for the people. (His son received the same info btw). It took a lot of courage to make that call. He was excoriated for that one.

I read something recently that he helped register African American voters during college. That surprised me.

For all his negatives or positions I disagreed with I do believe he wanted what was best for this country. Bush and Democrats just disagreed on how to get there.

clementine613

(561 posts)
13. None.
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:32 AM
May 2022

There is no modern Rethug (I'm not counting anytime before the Rethugs = conservatives) that I respect. They are all garbage criminals who should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

NNadir

(33,513 posts)
15. Gerald Ford and Jacob Javits.
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:35 AM
May 2022

I couldn't have close to voting for either - I very briefly thought about Javits for a New York second - but neither was viciously insane.

2naSalit

(86,568 posts)
20. Margaret Chase Smith...
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:38 AM
May 2022

First woman to represent the state of Maine in the US House and first woman to be elected to both the House and Senate and even ran for President. She openly confronted McCarthy and his crusade as well as many other milestones for women in pursuit of success outside domestic duties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Chase_Smith#Declaration_of_Conscience

Met her when I was very young at a celebration for one of my cousins who had been appointed (?) to the state's Supreme Court. She was a household name when politics was the topic in our family.

2naSalit

(86,568 posts)
31. From that meeting I mostly recall...
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:54 AM
May 2022

Her asking me about my dress, I was around four or five, and that everyone wanted to talk to her and my cousin, it was a very fancy and large, for me at the time, gathering at another cousin's home.

I heard about her in the news often so I recall hearing about her more than anything.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
42. I don't remember meeting her.
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:20 AM
May 2022

If I did it was probably somewhere like the Franklin County Fair before I turned 10.

underpants

(182,778 posts)
21. Sen. John Warner and Marshall Coleman
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:40 AM
May 2022

Sen. Warner convinced Coleman to run against Ollie North which got Chuck Robb another term. Thank God. It cost Mr. Coleman his marriage but I think that was going to happen anyway.

Warner was a good guy by all accounts. Well, He and George Allen bailed the Va. GOP out (sexual harassment suits) or they would have been insolvent and couldn’t have nominated candidates.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
22. Bill Cohen
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:41 AM
May 2022

Always served fairly in administrations of both parties and remains an independent conservative voice today.

LeftInTX

(25,259 posts)
25. I voted for Ford in 1976
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:44 AM
May 2022

It was my first election

I started out as a Republican, because I was majoring in the math and felt the Republicans were better for aerospace/defense programs.
I wanted to work in that field.


When Reagan came along in 1980, I was like, "Forget that"
I never got my aerospace job anyway.
---------------------------

There are a few out there who aren't too bad, but they're mostly local judges.

Mad_Machine76

(24,407 posts)
28. The Late Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:49 AM
May 2022

Only Republican Senator I've ever voted for. McCain was ok at times and his vote against repealing ACA cannot be ignored, but his "maverickness" was always a bit overrated IMHO.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
32. Honestly there aren't any.
Thu May 5, 2022, 09:55 AM
May 2022

I am by nature pretty judgmental. In all honesty, since I was a teenager, my understanding has been that Republicans were against a woman’s right to choose and that has been my litmus test. I was raised a feminist and women will never, ever achieve equality without having control over their own bodies. It’s always been that simplistic to me.

I have never in my lifetime voted for a Republican because any one of them was an obstacle to my being treated equally to a man. I was raised by a father who believed in equality strongly.

Harsh? Perhaps. But that’s the way I see it. And I am ready to fight.

True Dough

(17,302 posts)
50. Well, it seems your intuition
Thu May 5, 2022, 11:10 AM
May 2022

was well-founded today, the way things are bearing out with Roe vs. Wade.

SKKY

(11,804 posts)
36. I think Will Hurd seems legit to me...
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:04 AM
May 2022

And although I disagreed with most of his positions, I feel like John McCain did try to do the right things for the right reasons.

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
37. Oregon Governor Tom McCall
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:08 AM
May 2022

As a journalist, he sparked the environmental movement in our state.

As governor, he attracted many Democratic votes.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
38. Repsected is a far different standard than agreeing with, let alone supporting
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:09 AM
May 2022

I have some respect for Lisa Murkowski, not in every instance of course, but enough so that I'll give her an honorable mention. Can't say the same for Susan Collins. If forced to think about it long enough there may be some other Republican conservatives, beyond Liz Cheney, among the ranks of those who voted for Trump's impeachment who warrant some respect, for that act if nothing else. Those who did were among a small minority.

McCain was for the most part "respectable" in that he at times showed the courage of his convictions even when it meant alienating major parts of his based, and he truly believed in country over party. A number of Republicans went on to become excellent Supreme Court justices. Earl Warren is at the top of that list but more recently even a David Souter turned out to be overall decent. I agree with some of the other names mentioned above. Ike for sure.

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
39. I was born when Eisenhower was President
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:10 AM
May 2022

and he was from my state so by the time I was actually politically aware he had been put in my head as a really great President so I figured, knowing where that was coming from, that he is OK, not great but OK.

I really spend only tiny amounts of time thinking about Republicans. From my state the politicians are mostly Republicans. I would say I did not like Bob Dole but he was not a total jackass like todays Republicans are. I do like Nancy Landon Kassebaum-Baker. She voted for the ERA and the NEA and worked to end apartheid. Yes I looked this all up because I had forgotten. She always seemed steady and still casts votes in our state, she voted for our current Governor, Laura Kelly, Democrat.

If our current R's were like her we would be nowhere close to the mess we are in.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
40. Dan Evans former Washington state governor and US Senator
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:14 AM
May 2022

He was governor when my state legalized abortion in 1970. He also tried unsuccessfully to start a state income tax.

Can't imagine a Republican doing that today.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
62. Yep, I guess he would be the best one I can think of
Thu May 5, 2022, 12:55 PM
May 2022

Also warned against the military industrial complex.

Midnight Writer

(21,751 posts)
48. The last Republican I ever voted for was Everett Dirksen.
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:47 AM
May 2022

I did not vote for Jim Edgar, Governor of Illinois, but I think he is a decent man deserving some respect.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
53. Probably John McCain.
Thu May 5, 2022, 11:59 AM
May 2022

I may not have agreed with him policy-wise, but I never doubted his heart was in the right place.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
54. Thatcher Longstreth
Thu May 5, 2022, 12:07 PM
May 2022

The only Republican for whom I ever voted--also the first time I ever voted. I was 19, and the Democrats had shamefully voted the oaf of a police commissioner, Frank Rizzo, as their candidate (he switched to the Republicans soon after winning).

During the one debate on TV, Rizzo stupidly asked Longstreth why he had said disparaging things about him, and Longstreth answered, without even blinking, "well, if the shoe fits, commissioner......" Howls of approval were to be heard all over West Philadelphia for ten minutes after that.

Deep State Witch

(10,424 posts)
58. Larry Hogan of Maryland
Thu May 5, 2022, 12:45 PM
May 2022

I may not agree with Governor Hogan on some issues, but I think that he's done a fine job for Maryland. He LOATHES TFG, and makes no secret of it. He's a cancer survivor, so COVID was personal for him. He stood up for science when all of the other Republican governors were touting "freedumb". Yes, he has moved to the right lately because he's running for President. However, I don't think it's going to work, because he's not in the crazy crowd. He'll probably get some Never Trumper votes, but won't get the nomination.

BumRushDaShow

(128,883 posts)
59. Locally here in Philly - our (now former)
Thu May 5, 2022, 12:48 PM
May 2022

Republican City Commissioner (he is now heading up the almost 120 year old local non-profit "Committee of 70" that monitored the corruption here in the city over those years and that also monitors elections, all as a public service).

https://seventy.org/

During the 2020 election fiasco, he was the bulwark who didn't shy away from taking on the loons of his own party who just attacked relentlessly, standing in solidarity with the 2 Democratic City Commissioners - Lisa Deeley and Omar Sabir.




Al Schmidt
@Commish_Schmidt
Yesterday, the Philadelphia County Board of Elections completed the Computation of the final results from #Election2020. A record total of 749,317 ballots were cast. In just a few days, the official Certification of the 2020 Presidential Election will take place.
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5:42 PM · Nov 18, 2020





Al Schmidt
@Commish_Schmidt
We just certified the results of the 2020 Presidential Election. Despite all the meritless litigation and misinformation targeting our electoral system, I'm proud that the birthplace of our Republic held the most transparent and secure election in the history of Philadelphia.
7:02 PM · Nov 23, 2020


And he had some choice tweets as well -




Al Schmidt
@Commish_Schmidt
Fellow Republicans: You can’t coddle Confederates and also claim the Republic.
Jenna Ellis
@JennaEllisEsq
Mayor @RudyGiuliani just started playing the Battle Hymn of the Republic on Spotify our way back.

🔥🔥🔥
8:24 PM · Nov 27, 2020


He literally received death threats during and after the election.




Al Schmidt
@Commish_Schmidt
While I’m frustrated that nobody has been held accountable for sending death threats to my family or my staff, I’m grateful to @PhillyPolice and @PhilaSheriff for protecting us while we were at @PAConvention counting our voters’ votes in General 2020.
Reuters
@Reuters
Campaign of fear: Law enforcement has taken little action as election officials face a wave of threats and menacing messages from backers of Donald Trump. @Reuters tracked down and interviewed nine of the harassers. Most were unrepentant https://reut.rs/3ov941l 1/7
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1:32 PM · Nov 9, 2021


The other "local" one would be Arlen Specter, who having started his political career as a Democrat here in Philly in the mid-60s, and switching parties when he didn't get the city's Democratic committee backing to run for D.A., ended up winning as a Republican, and then later went on to get elected to the Senate for a 30-year career as a GOP Senator. But during his final year before he was up for re-election (2009), he switched parties again back to Democratic, which, along with Al Franken's final certification and swearing-in, helped Democrats reach the 60 vote threshold to get the first part of the ACA over the finish line. He eventually lost the primary in 2010 to Joe Sestak, who in turn lost that seat to teabagger Toomey.

For the current, I would give Adam Kinzinger a nod and maybe sortof Liz Cheney, although I don't know how "reformed" she really is... but at the moment, she has been helpful.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
60. That's a hard one
Thu May 5, 2022, 12:53 PM
May 2022

I don’t think I truly respect any of them. Even “moderates” have policies that would do harm to the country. Some of them are just better than the many beyond horrible ones.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
61. Nice question
Thu May 5, 2022, 12:54 PM
May 2022

For me, I know that I'll disagree with virtually all Republicans on most issues. So to me the question becomes-- would it be good if every Republican were like this particular one?

For me, some nationally known Republicans that pass that test are (in no particular order)...

John McCain
George H.W. Bush
Mitt Romney
Dwight Eisenhower
Colin Powell
Bob Dole

People like Collins have more palatable positions, but I can't quite get a pin on their integrity.

So basically I guess the GOP went off the rails around 2000 or so, and has gotten worse and worse ever since.

Marthe48

(16,940 posts)
63. President Eisenhower
Thu May 5, 2022, 12:56 PM
May 2022

R's in office before the likes of roger stone started their filthy stealth destruction of the U.S.

Tickle

(2,514 posts)
71. Nixon
Fri May 6, 2022, 06:00 AM
May 2022

lol I’m kidding. Working third shift and I have 1 more hour to go but I’m a little punch drunk

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