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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy Great-Grandpa Killed My Great-Grandma Giving Her An Abortion On Their Kitchen Table
In 1919, my 7-year-old grandmother was startled awake in the early hours by her father. Come say goodbye to your mother, he told her. He brought her and her siblings into the kitchen, where their mother lay dying on the kitchen table. The room, table, and her mothers lower half were awash with her blood. This is the only memory my grandmother had of her mother. Any positive memories were shocked from her system in that moment.
My grandmothers father killed her mother performing an illegal abortion. He was never charged with a crime. After the death of his wife, he kept his younger daughter and his young boys with him. He sent my grandmother to work as a farmhand for a relative. To him, the abortion was a necessary risk. They already had too many kids.
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My adult child has never had sex without contraceptives. Currently, my child is wild with fear after the leak of a draft Supreme Court opinion indicating a plan to overturn Roe. Their health and life is too complicated to successfully manage a pregnancy or a child. This gentle soul is in a state of panic on behalf of all fertile people with uteruses. In speaking with my offspring, I had to promise that if Roe is overturned, I would form a pipeline to help people make their way to a country where abortion is legal. My kid cant sleep for worrying about those who will fall through the cracks those who will die due to unsafe abortions. My child knows the story of my great-grandmother.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/great-grandma-killed-illegal-abortion_n_62754440e4b046ad0d7ba081
3catwoman3
(23,970 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(9,973 posts)their partners because they couldn't "get rid of it" any other way.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)pandr32
(11,578 posts)Wives, partners, girlfriends, and casual sex partners.
Men too often don't want the pregnancy to come to term and have any kind of subsequent responsibility for 18 yrs.
IronLionZion
(45,421 posts)Delphinus
(11,830 posts)You read the Indiana story too.
IronLionZion
(45,421 posts)in today's GOP
NJCher
(35,650 posts)because it already happens and abortion is available. When it's not, this number will increase.
I watch a lot of true crime shows like Dateline, 20/20, etc., and this is a common cause for a murder.
yardwork
(61,588 posts)It seems to have been a fairly common occurrence in the past.
Warpy
(111,240 posts)nearly always by the man who sired it. It's hard to see how this could get much worse for pregnant women.
Oh, right, honor killings bh fathers, brothers and uncles' forced labor prisons like the Magdalene Laundries, the list does tend to go on. Women will be shamed, blamed, imprisoned, assaulted, and murdered. Men will skate away as always.
cstanleytech
(26,280 posts)financial means to leave and never come back.
Farmer-Rick
(10,154 posts)I make good money off my pension and Social Security. I'm 1/4 Irish and look 100% Irish. But to move to Ireland, I still don't make enough as a retiree to be eligible for permanent residency. Yet, I live very comfortably in the US without making enough to get the hell out of this oligarchy.
People have more difficulty escaping this American oligarchy then getting over the East German wall. At least West Germany was willing to take in East German escapees.
cstanleytech
(26,280 posts)a job skill and or are financially well off.
I mean hell I worry about being able to afford basic groceries and gas every week not to mention the rent and I don't have a degree in anything that would even help me get my foot in the door.
stollen
(419 posts)ShazzieB
(16,357 posts)to entities like abortion funds, PP, and NARAL, and to all the democrats who are running for the House and Senate this fall.
As it is, I give what I can to just a few donees. I just wish I could do more.
Leaving has its appeal, though!
housecat
(3,121 posts)as long as you stay off the internet and away from crowds. Other countries may or may not be better
Warpy
(111,240 posts)Back then, the most reliable person men could find was the local barber. The result was as you described, a hemorrhaging woman on a kitchen table, the children called in to say goodbye to their Mom.
I have to wonder about my own great grandmothers, I know two of them died fairly young and under hushed up circumstances. Another was never spoken of and the fourth managed to outlive wealthy husbands and ran her own life.
stollen
(419 posts)It's worth researching, IMO.
Warpy
(111,240 posts)or pneumonia. Nothing involving female parts was ever mentioned. Too icky.
housecat
(3,121 posts)housecat
(3,121 posts)(my mother) had an abortion. They were called medical procedures and none of anyone's business outside of the doctor and patient. As I understood it this was fairly common, and government had no place in this absolutely personal event. It was long before Roe. What happened? Granted, these were considered middle class families with more opportunity than many others. But more than the cost, the concept had a place in our culture. It's called privacy.
Novara
(5,840 posts)... is how many people were prosecuted for abortion (doctor or woman) pre-1973. I was pretty young at the time so I don't remember hearing about a lot of prosecutions for illegal abortions. Mostly what I remember are the horror stories of women dying. But people weren't prosecuted; it was treated as a tragedy that the woman died, and everyone knew the risks. But lots of women, when forced to carry a pregnancy they don't want for a child they can't care for / don't want / can't afford, will take the risk.
I think that's all about to change. I think women will seek out "illegal" abortions and they will die and everyone will be prosecuted, even her friends who knew about it but didn't stop her. They will be prosecuted as accessories.
It isn't going to be enough for these assholes that women will die. Everyone associated with her will be prosecuted as well. Otherwise, why make vigilante laws that the SCOTUS upholds? You can see where this is heading, right?
housecat
(3,121 posts)Women in my family were fortunate, but too many were not
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housecat
(3,121 posts)crowds. The last time I marched in protest was for Vietnam. I don't feel like I am missing anything, because I don't need any of the above.
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Emile
(22,654 posts)when the Supreme Court turns back time.
MiHale
(9,715 posts)Is to get a NATIONAL ban on abortion if they take over in 22.
Heres one link, dont like Newsweek search its all over the news.
I picked the first one
https://www.newsweek.com/national-abortion-ban-possible-if-roe-v-wade-overturned-mitch-mcconnell-1704541
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)NickB79
(19,233 posts)I had to work up the courage to read it.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)I can't stop thinking about it, especially this Mothers Day.